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Timeshifting: Cram More Into Life

jimharris writes "The VCR started it - and then the DVR improved it, so now I want to apply the concept of timeshifting in other ways. I've always wanted an audio cassette player that worked like a VCR so I could listen to more radio talk shows. This morning's NY Times stirred my interest with After TiVo, Radio Rewound about a MP3 device that does just that. Better yet, is Replay Radio - software that is more flexible and you can download the results to a portable player. I already use Audible.com to squeeze in more books in my life, by listening, rather than reading. I've completed 8 unabridged books in two months just by carrying around my Otis player when I get dressed in the morning, driving to and from work, doing housework, or when I exercise. Now I'm wondering how I can timeshift even more."

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  1. Tivo2 by l810c · · Score: 5, Informative

    Tivo2 is supposed to add support for XM Radio in the 2nd half of 2004. Digital quality radio recording sounds like a great combination.

    1. Re:Tivo2 by mgs1000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      That doesnt mean Tivo will allow you to record XM radio. The Directv Tivo cannot record(or even buffer) Directv's music channels.

    2. Re:Tivo2 by Goth+Biker+Babe · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm sitting here smiling.

      Here in the UK we have DAB (Digital Audio Broadcasting) which, with the appropriate PC card or USB dongle can be recorded and MP3'ed at any time. Compact DAB radios are available to carry where we like. Car DAB radios allow us to hear it on the move.

      Advertisments, what advertisments? We have the joys of a comprehensive advert free broadcasting system.

      Digital radio is also available via digital terrestrial television, digital satelite and digital cable. The digital PVRs which record direct from the digital broadcasts record it in all it's glory.

      And it's all free!

    3. Re:Tivo2 by koreth · · Score: 2, Informative
      The Directv Tivo cannot record(or even buffer) Directv's music channels.
      "Cannot" is putting it a bit too strongly. I've had wish lists pick up special programs on the music channels from time to time, so the hardware is definitely capable of it. (Fast forwarding doesn't work on those recordings, though.) I imagine if you've hacked your TiVo to run a Web server or whatever, you could probably schedule recordings on the music channels.
    4. Re:Tivo2 by babyrat · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Directv Tivo cannot record(or even buffer) Directv's music channels.

      There's a difference between can't and won't. Won't can be changed to will.

      http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/archive/index. ph p/t-30881

    5. Re:Tivo2 by Albanach · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's no radio license in the UK. The BBC channels are funded by the Television License. As the name suggests, You only need one of those if you own a TV.

    6. Re:Tivo2 by deacon · · Score: 3, Informative

      We have the joys of a comprehensive advert free broadcasting....And it's all free!

      Maybe you have not heard of the 121 (In April) pound

      BBC Television License fee .

      I will educate you: This fee is collected by the force of the State and given to the BBC. Even people who never watch the BBC have to pay this money if they posess a television.

      Or maybe you are confusing "Free" as in free with "Free" as in "The State gave me this using my and other people's money, no matter if I like it or not."..

      In any case, here is a website where you can pay up your "Free"

      http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk

    7. Re:Tivo2 by iCat · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you don't have a TiVo, but have a Mac, AudioHijack and a broadband connection will let you record radio from the BBC's website. You can then sync to your iPod when you come home and listen to the shows at your leisure.

    8. Re:Tivo2 by Goth+Biker+Babe · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've just re-read your post and see where you're comming from so ignore my other post. Yes, my free radio is due to others paying their TV licence.

      Well I'm sorry to have to say that I also pay taxes and National Insurance. I have no children and no permanent disability. I've never been unemployed. So I am subsidising families and the sick. But I don't care it's part of being a member of society.

      The cost of radio is small relative to the cost of television. I pay my licence fee which equates to about $15 a month. Given the quality of the TV programming which, on the BBC, is Ad free, it's well worth it. The fact that I get high quality radio as well is a bonus.

  2. Speed Up The Audio! by evilmuffins · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a Creative Nomad Jukebox 3. One of the things I like about it is it has an effect to change the speed of the audio/mp3 you are listning to, up to 1.5x. I think it works by playing it faster, but it also lowers the pitch at the same time, so you don't get chipmunk voices. I also had a winamp plugin that did this awhile ago.

  3. howard stern listener by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    if you're a howard stern listener just use newsgroups.

    alt.binaries.howard-stern has commercial free shows everyday. you can also find other popular radio talk shows on newsgroups daily. just have to look.

    1. Re:howard stern listener by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I submitted a story about how Howard Stern has been suspended. You can get the scoop here. Perhaps your information will be useful to people who lost the show.

  4. No Reg Required by saderax · · Score: 2, Informative
  5. Radio Shark by asdren · · Score: 2, Informative

    Radio Shark

    Don't know if this has been released yet. It's been in development for quite a while.

    I'm waiting for a Tivo unit with a DVD/R built-in.

  6. Mac users, shift! by tribguru · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mac users have a new timeshift option (if Griffin ever ships it); check out RadioShark. It records AM, FM, and Internet broadcasts into AIFF format. Upload to your MP3 player and away you go!

    (Now just SHIP the darned thing, Griffin.)

  7. And now you can time-shift to the no-reg page.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
  8. Re:Question about Otis player by ThogScully · · Score: 2, Informative

    Many aftermarket car stereos have alternate inputs so you can plug anything into it, much like an external CD changer, MP3 player, etc. If this is really a problem for you, consider a new stereo.
    -N

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  9. NO REG PAGE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
  10. Re:College students: timeshifting lectures by frooddude · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's a scene in Real Genius.

  11. Re:Question about Otis player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    If you have a cassette player in the car (I know my new Jeep came with CD and cassette), you can use one of the old discman car adapters and plug them into the headphone jack of your device. Sounds pretty darn good to me.

    If you don't have a cassette adapter, several companies make an adapter that plugs into a headphone jack and outputs an FM signal good for around 30 ft. These things go for about $20-$30. Available at Target, Apple Store, etc...

  12. Re:College students: timeshifting lectures by infofreako · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, if you have a newer iPod there is a microphone option available;

    http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects /A ppleStore?productLearnMore=T7419LL/A

  13. Re:No more drivsway-moments? by jumpingfred · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can listen to them over the web.
    http://cartalk.cars.com/Radio/Show/

  14. This device existed commercially over a year ago! by sogoodsofarsowhat · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was even on SLASHDOT...oh wait...thats pretty much /. style...when short of stories well just talk about things from the past! Its called a PoGo and i have one on my desk. Records radio and allows time shifting. Wow. But hey this is news right....OLD NEWS...but news

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  15. Linux timeshifting by jmcharry · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can use xmms to record mp3 streams out of the box. Just use the -dumpaudio function and it will go to a file, in raw mp3, rather than to your speakers. Most NPR stations provide streams of one sort or another. You can also choose from available streams on Icecast and Shoutcast. http://osl.iu.edu/~tveldhui/radio/ has a much more involved discussion of how to record other stream types, or audio fed to a soundcard.

  16. Re:Question about Otis player by abiggerhammer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Get a tape-to-headphone-jack adapter, the kind people used to use with portable CD players before everyone just got in-dash CD players. (If you can't find one in a store, surely someone you know will have one they're not using.) I use one with my Creative Nomad MuVo all the time, and the sound quality is excellent.

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  17. time shifting audio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I use TotalRecorder www.highcriteria.com. It records any sound stream on your computer to hard disc as mp3 or uncompressed. It has a built in scheduler and costs about $12.

  18. ATI ALL-IN-WONDER by BagOBones · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just picked up an ATI ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 Pro it has both a built in TV tuner and an FM Radio tuner. You can time shift both TV and RADIO programs with the included ATI software.

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    EA David Gardner -"... but the consumers have proven that actually what they want is fun."
  19. Total Recorder by Chelloveck · · Score: 2, Informative

    Another nice tool (Windows only, sorry) is Total Recorder from High Criteria. It installs an audio driver shim and can record audio from any source. Essentially, if you can hear it on your PC's speakers, you can record it. I use it for time-shifting and for converting RealAudio and other streams into MP3 for my portable player.

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    Chelloveck
    I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
  20. Linux Radio Timeshift does the job! by falzbro · · Score: 2, Informative

    I personally have been using the scripts found at the Linux Radio Timeshift HOWTO for a few months now, and it does the job perfectly. You can listen to a freshly created MP3 as it's still being recorded. Used in combination with a script such as this, you can stream them shoutcast-style from anywhere.

    Since there was only one AM radio tuner for a PC that I could find (and it was USB), I installed an external tuner. It ends up looking really cool to have a 1u rackmount tuner in your rack. Of course if I ever wish to tune to another station, a robotic arm must be built, but I'm content for now.

    --falz

  21. BBC already timeshifts and streams for you! by evilandi · · Score: 5, Informative
    The BBC already provides on-demand streams of the last episodes of all Radio 4 programmes, with highlights also available for the World Service and Five Live. Four, Five & WS are speech-based stations; there are also highlights available for the music stations. Sadly there is as yet no archive streaming for their new audio station BBC 7, which broadcasts comedy & drama repeats.

    It's RealAudio, not Shoutcast, but hey, you can't have everything.

    This kind of power gives you interesting abilities. For instance, on my friends mailing list we were joking around pinpointing the exact second at which ex-minister Clare Short realised quite what she'd done by exposing UK spying activity against the UN on the Radio 4 interview this morning.

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  22. Re:Ack! Are you serious? by Smegoid · · Score: 2, Informative

    Many of these posts are clearly extrapolating way beyond the original poster's intent. He's enthused about the possibility of listening to the radio shows that interest him when he desires to do so. He's not looking to have a T1 line jacked into the back of his head.

    I for one sympathize and think way too much to do is being made about the putative benefits of "do-nothing" time. I used to listen to music during my 30 minute walk to work. Then I discovered NPR's the Connection radio archive. Along with the CBC's Ideas and much of the BBC. Now my morning and evening walks are a bit more edifying. Pop the real media or mp3 files onto my PDA and go (or if you hate real media, convert them to mp3). Same goes for the original poster. Why listen to morning radio pablum, aweful music and advertising when you can pop in a decent NPR show?

    This doesn't mark the end of introspection nor the demise of the patient appreciation of art. It's simply replacing a more convinient, but often less desired media, with one from a different timeslot. So the poster listens to novels instead of music while doing excercise or having breakfast. I hardly think this is sign of an impending heart attack to say nothing of the demise of human civilization.

  23. Re:One word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Woody Allen read War and Peace in two hours after taking speed-reading lessons. What did he think of it? "It was about some Russians", he said.

  24. Re:Ack! Are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    >And just as search engines/data collection sites (say, for example, Slashdot or Metafilter-- sites that find data for you)...

    Didn't Ray Bradbury talk about that exact phenomenon in Fahrenheit 451? It went something like:


    And the books gave way to digests, and the digests gave way to digest digests, then the digest digest digests...


    Yeah, I know I've butchered that quote, as I don't have my copy of 451 handy...
  25. Faster MP3s by Noksagt · · Score: 3, Informative

    I find that for spoken word (such as audiobooks), I can increase the playback rate to as much as 150% and can understand and enjoy the material for an extended amount of time. If I am really paying attention, I can play back at 200% for shorter lengths of time & if I'm feeling "distracted," I may have only a ver small increasae in the rate.

    I don't know what hardware currently has this feature (I'm sure other /.ers will know & hope they post it, as I'm in the market for a player), but the winamp plugin pacemaker works quite well in winamp or Xaudio.

  26. Other ways to timeshift - low tech by saskboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Pick out your clothes the night before.
    Do your homework the night before it is due, instead of the morning it is due.

    And use a VCR to record the radio, it is possible, just leave the radio tuned to the right station and on, and program the VCR to record the Line in if possible.

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    Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
  27. Timeshifted radio by grouchyDude · · Score: 2, Informative

    I listen to timeshifted radio programs on the way to work (via my iPod). I have a cron job that launches a streaming audio player (when the appropriate shows are on), the audio out then leads back to the audio in, and the show is recorded and coded as an MP3 using lame. Works great. (More elegant solutions that wiring in & out exist, but they are fragile.)

  28. Provigil - Better than Speed by Long-EZ · · Score: 2, Informative
    The US Air Force has been using Provigil to allow pilots to stay awake for 24+ hour long missions. They need to be alert for midair refuelings at night, not sleepy or wired on speed. Three days without sleep is apparently no problem, and there are none of the caffeine or amphetamine jaggies. It works on a completely different (but not yet fully understood) mechanism. Still no word on the long term effects, but prescriptions are skyrocketing.

    Given our obsession with cramming more life into our lives, sleep seems like an obvious source of extra hours. I'm waiting for this to be the abused drug of choice for geek entrepreneurs. What geek doesn't want more time for projects? Search for Provigil and you'll find numerous Google ads for sleazy online pharmacies that would like to help you get more into your day the modern chemical way.

    My productivity enhancement is less chemical. Some caffeine in Mt Dew (is 9 a day too many?), and some electronics. I ignored the MP3 craze for years, then finally gave in recently and bought a 20 GB Rio Karma so I could record library books-on-CD and listen to them while I work on the more mindless stuff.

    I've been reading too much /. lately and my productivity has been in the toilet.

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    >> My ultraviolent Linux switch video.
  29. Re:I made a radio "VCR", and it's easy. Try it! by riflemann · · Score: 2, Informative

    I did exactly the same, beginning from about four years ago. I moved from Australia to the Netherlands and use it to keep in touch with Australian radio shows. It works rather well and I can listen to any FM station available in Sydney.

    I described this system on my weblog.