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U.S. is World Leader in Spam

adept256 writes "Sophos outs 'dirty dozen' spam producing countries. And the USA is in the lead by a country mile. 'The United States is far and away the worst offender, accounting for nearly 60 percent of the world's spam. Even though European countries are responsible for less spam, they are still generating millions of junk emails a day,' said Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at Sophos."

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  1. So much for the AXIS OF EVIL... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...and its spamming leader.

    1. Re:So much for the AXIS OF EVIL... by mwood · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nah, it's just because we have so many more computers for the bad guys to zombify. (Or, more or less equivalently, we have so many more clueless computer owners.)

    2. Re:So much for the AXIS OF EVIL... by MCZapf · · Score: 5, Interesting

      We probably also have more "entrepreneurs" (spammers and their customers) who are trying to get rich quick. That is, after all, the American Dream.

    3. Re:So much for the AXIS OF EVIL... by tolan-b · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "What's your point? One's a continent and one's a country dumbass. I bet Asia has more people online than the USA too."

      RTFC, 60% of spam comes from the US, but there are more computers outside the US than inside, that means that the claim that the US is only so high because it has so many computers is provably wrong.

    4. Re:So much for the AXIS OF EVIL... by paranode · · Score: 5, Informative

      You might find this graph very interesting.

  2. While they're at it... by Hayzeus · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ...maybe Sophos could also get around to changing their default "notify recipient" setting on their email virus scanner.

    That way, Sophos themselves might produce a little less spam...

  3. Its no supprise. by psycht · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So many broadband & other high-speed connections left wide open that can relay data.

    1. Re:Its no supprise. by hendridm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or perhaps it's all the aspiring entrepreneurs who are trying to make a quick buck with no regard for ethics or other people.

      I was born and raised in the U.S., but some of the scams I see just sicken me and the lengths people will go to to make a quick buck. Some people will even take advantage of their friends and family! Who needs enemies when your own brother or sister is trying to guilt you into their latest multi-level marketing endeavor.

  4. Re:Nigeria? by Dr+Tall · · Score: 5, Funny

    What are you talking about? I should be getting my million dollars from Nigeria in the mail next week!

  5. Why am I not surprised by lavalyn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Spamming computers may appear to be foreign, but in the end, it's nearly always an American source. Or from the Netherlands for some reason in those stupid 419s.

    If you're not blacklisting from Spamhaus's SBL+XBL of spam outfits & open relays, and dialup pools, those ones are natural things to start blocking on connect.

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    1. Re:Why am I not surprised by mpickut · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, were number 1, were number 1, were number 1! Take that Ossama. Lets see you Al Queada guys match our spam output! And the French can't even come close. Remembers when spam is outlawed only outlaws will spam.

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  6. Phear Canada by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    While you Americans are spamming the world, we Canucks are gulping down herbal viagra, slathering growth cream on our willies and Making Money Fast.. Laugh at us, will you?!

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  7. When was this sample taken? by nebaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder if the recently passes Federal Anti-Spam legislation has had any effect on these numbers. Obviously not a big enough one, since according to these figures, so much spam still comes from the U.S. If these numbers can be tabulated, can they not also report the offenders to the police?

    I also wonder if there is any way to bring the issue of unprotected computers to the public. Perhaps negligence penalties of some sort? I don't want to punish the wrong people, but it would be a lot harder to hack into all of these systems if they were administered properly.

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  8. How about normalizing that data? by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Yes, so the US generates 60% of the world's spam. However, what fraction of the world's total email traffic does the US generate? I bet it's near 60%.

    Without having some idea of what fraction of a country's email traffic is spam, these numbers just tell you which countries have a bigger internet presence, and absolutely nothing more.

    1. Re:How about normalizing that data? by g0qi · · Score: 5, Interesting

      For too long, US Sys & Law Administrators have taken cover saying that the source of spam is almost always foreign and there's nothing they can do about it. This article is the wake up call. It doesn't matter what email traffic the US generates, but it just proves that much of the spam is from within.

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  9. Re:Nigeria? by cfradenburg · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't who is writing the email is. It's where the computer that sends it out is. The article mentions that Russia should be higher on the list but a lot of SPAM is sent through compromised computers in America.

  10. The report isn't really valid by Moryath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For example, a Nigerian email sent from a hotmail/yahoo account (they almost all are) would seemingly, by this standard, come from the US.

    And then there's the thing they themselves point out; their methods of determining origin only go so far, hijacked machines / email routers configured to "wash" the headers of relayed stuff also go a long way to making the numbers invalid.

    I still say the ultimate revenge is to paper-spam the big spammers. Sign them up for hundreds of thousands of magazines and all the rest.

    The coup de grace would be then to package and mail a spammer the contents of my cats' litterbox the day after feeding them beef 'n' bean leftovers.

  11. Duh.. by UncleBiggims · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course the US is the leading producer of SPAM. It was invented here. And according to the SPAM Museum, Hormel produces 435 cans of spam PER MINUTE in Austin, Minnesota.

    Are you Corn Fed?

  12. Made in America by physicsboy500 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow... when I see my next ad for "enlargment pills" I'll smile with delight that the ad I'm looking at was made in America...

    Did I mention that by smile I mean Be menacingly overcome... and by delight I actually mean rage... sweet glorious rage.

    Another reason for my heart to swell with pride for my country

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  13. Re:Much from compromised computers by gowen · · Score: 5, Insightful
    high position of Canada
    Well, taking my twenty-odd thousand spams as a sample, a lot of Canadian spams come from compromised machines at shawcable / shaw.caclient*.comcast.net and attbi.com, the abuse departments are too lazy^H^H^H^Hoverwhelmed to do anything about them (even easy solutions, such blocking port 25 and insisting mail is relayed through their own SMTP servers, which would kill this spam stone dead at a stroke).
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  14. Re:I would have sworn it was CN, TW, KR and simila by rduke15 · · Score: 5, Informative

    A lot comes from Asian computers, but if you look into the spam itself (what it sells -> who is actually selling it), most comes in fact from the US.

  15. Re:Much from compromised computers by rm007 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the only thing I find surprising about the list is the high position of Canada - second, 6.8%. Given Canad's relatively small population, that must make them the leader in spam-per-capita - an unpleasant distinction

    Not so surprising, the figure is not really out of whack. While the population is a little more than one tenth - 32 million vs 292 million - higher internet usage levels, especially broadband penetration probably accounts for some of why the Canadian figure is not closer to the 5.7 - 5.9% that you might expect. As other posters have noted, normalizing the data would have helped make more sense of the of the numbers that they present. At any rate, it is safe to assume that too many Canadians and Americans do not secure their computers properly if compromised machines account for so much of the spam.

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  16. Spamgourmet to the rescue (spam - /dev/null) by hrath · · Score: 5, Informative

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  17. Wrong by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 5, Insightful
    B.S. it isn't a case of "one spam for every x legitimate emails" the number of spam emails and legitimate emails are completely unrelated.

    Read the response by the second guy to respond to me. Both legitimate and illegitimate email are going to track with the number of total servers (scaled by how many are unprotected) and number of internet-connected citizens (scaled by how many are internet-connected) among other variables he mentioned.

    I mean, actually think about what you're saying. You would congratulate Antarctica for generating 0 spam. If you want to look at this without considering "ham" emails, look at the spam difference - (spam sent = spam received). I would argue that even this difference should be fractioned by how many total emails are sent received which really is a decent measure of internet presence, but even without it, you at least separate net spam "donors" from "recipients"

    Honestly, if you don't normalize variables in comparing large sample sets with small, you absolutely cannot compare raw numbers. I could recommend statistical reference texts if you like.

  18. Yeah, the U.S. is the leader in spam right now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...but wait. Before ya know it, sending spam will be offshored to India too.

  19. money, money, money by novakane007 · · Score: 5, Funny

    What?! The home of capitalism is also the home of spam?! How could this be? /sarcasm

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  20. Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey, don't be so down on yourselves. The US is the world leader in lots of things. Military spending, patent lawsuits, oil consumption...

  21. A NEW UNCOVER SECRETS ABOUT ANYONES!! teheknfd by Westech · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nah, it's just because we have so many more computers for the bad guys to zombify.

    I agree. Just looking at the horribly butchered English that is in 95% of the spam that I get tells me that it not written by someone who's first language is English.

  22. Re:A NEW UNCOVER SECRETS ABOUT ANYONES!! teheknfd by LearnToSpell · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...not written by someone who's first language is English.

    Like you, say?

  23. ISPs, please block egress port 25! by RT+Alec · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it is time that ISPs block, by default, all outbound port 25 traffic. Customers can either:

    • Use the ISPs mail server (this accomodates 90% right away)
    • Use a VPN or SMTP+AUTH(+SSL) on an alternate port to connect to their SMTP server of choice (this accomodates another 9%)
    • For the remaining few that just have to run their own SMTP server, let them have a static IP and open up the ports
    Of course, some consumer ISPs won't be willing to deal with the headaches of option #3, or perhaps might charge a bit more for it, which is entirely fair. Businesses need to block all egress port 25 period, there is rarely a legitamate need for an employee to run their own SMTP server (unless they work in the IT department, but then they can probably open the port up themselves).
  24. The units of measure in spam suggest USA by tetranz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its always inches or pounds.

    I've never received anything promising to add centimeters or lose kilograms.