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Second Lawsuit Filed Against ICANN (and VeriSign)
penciling_in writes "CircleID reports on a second lawsuit filed against ICANN and VeriSign. 'Newman & Newman, the law firm representing an ad hoc coalition of ICANN-accredited domain name registrars, has filed a lawsuit today against ICANN and VeriSign to Stop 'Anti-Consumer, Anti-Competitive' Wait List Service Implementation.' According to the report, "The complaint attacks ICANN and VeriSign based on 1) Unfair Trade Practices Act Violations; 2) Violation of California Business & Professions Code; 3) Unlawful Tying Arrangement; 4) Attempted Monopolization; 5) Violation of Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act; 6) Intentional Interference with Prospective Economic Advantage; 7) Breach of Contract; and 8) Declaratory Relief." Also a related website launched at fightwls.com."
I can buy the right to register Microsoft.Com if Microsoft Corp ever decides to stop renewing it. However, Microsoft could buy an 'insurance' which would prevent loss of the domain if someone forgot to renew it.
Other than the same company is selling these two products, I find this comical at best. No way this should be illegal.
Unless Verisign intends to make information about who owns 'domain insurance' private confidential, then I see no reason why both products cannot co-exist.
As long as the person understands that they have about as much chance of registering microsoft.com as they do of winning the lottery, I see no reason why we should be holding consumers' hands and protecting them from their own stupidity.
Icann may be bad, but Icann@large is worse. There are many idiots that believe that Icann was a kind of internet government and they talk about democratic organisation and the like but aren't able to speak with one voice or organise themselves with their radical democratic principles that often lead to "takeovers". I often came to the conclusion: They waste our time in bylaws discussion and non-working organisational bodies. The atlarge community failed.
You cannot deal with the atlarge guys atlarge.
And ITU to take over ICANN? I don't want this, not even more UN breakfast directors and phrase driven policy. Icann is is too American but they don't pollute the debate with policy issues that are off-topic. However IPR and Icann is also fully off-topic.
I fully agree with Karl Auerbach, what's all this ICANN fuzz about.
Wipe the politicians out. Let the admins in.
The monopolistic charges kind of caught my eye, because they ring kind of true. Why should ICANN be the only body governing these sorts of things?
Network solutions shouldn't have been allowed to get into any business besides selling domain names and providing DNS. Anything else (like selling ads on their sitefinder) and there is a risk they will do something to DNS to promote their other products rather than improve usability (as they did). They shouldn't even be allowed to send unlimited e-mails to domain name owners.
TLD registrars and DNS providers should be small companies, run by people who are content to do a job and make a small profit, but not have unlimited freedom/growth potential of a private company that doesn't provide any exclusive service to the public.
I hope ICANN moves in that direction right away and not even bother with separate lawsuits for various small points.
Propz to the GNAA
Granted most people who are going to the site for a reason know what the acronymn means, but for goodness sake, for the rest of us, put up some type of description about what that acronym WLS means. -- "Waiting-List Service" -- and tell a bit more about it up front.
This is not entirely clear but it is important. Are the lawyers here talking about a service that you will be charged for regardless of whether or not you can actually buy a domain? Verisign is in the position to run a simple waiting list program, because they control the root servers. But this lawsuit seems to imply that you will be charged just for the "right" to purchase, not based on whether or not a purchase actually goes through (in this case, depending on whether the original registrant renews ahead of time or not).
What I want to know is why Verisign can hold domains for a few days after they "expire" to let someone renew them. Other registrars will lose them right away (in some cases, to Verisign).
After the sitefinder thing, i wasnt happy with verisign, i didnt like them, but I wasnt stark raving mad. They at least heeded the will of ICANN and everyone else, eventually. I might have still gotten a digital certificate or something since they really are good at those. But now, I would very much like to put them out of business. They are so off in their thinking that I can't stand to have them still in business. The sad thing is I am almost sure that they will win their case because the judges are not edjucated enough with regards to computers. The court room is not a technical place, and money and big guns wins over the technical truth. I dearly hope that someone can somehow put verisign in its place and stop this insatiable and unreasonable greed. Its not so much that theyre greedy, but how theyre going about satiating it. Few things not in my direct personal life infuriate me this much.
What, like property tax?
> I was kinda waiting for WLS. I am tried of doing a WHOIS on bunch of Domain Names, every morning, to see if they expired ;)
Fair enough, but why should Verisign have this monopoly ?
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