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The Virus Squad

dncsky1530 writes "Sydney Morning Herald - The Virus Squad - 'A new species has been discovered. So new, it's still unnamed, but researchers are racing to tag it - before it spreads around the world. For the next 10 to 30 minutes, the computer virus or worm is dissected, analysed and identified... "On the day we detected MyDoom, we did another 18 viruses," says Paul Ducklin, Sophos's head of technology for the Asia-Pacific. "There are about 800 new viruses a month. And the unglamorous bit of our work is often the other 798."'"

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  1. Ugh, these aren't viruses... by tgd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe a lot of /. readers are too young to remember real viruses, or to have played around/collected them, but its been a decade since a real infectuous virus has gone around.

    If it can't infect any arbitrary EXE file, its not a virus, its a trojan or a worm, depending on wether or not its a moronic user or a security hole that allows it to enter the system.

    1. Re:Ugh, these aren't viruses... by interiot · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The main reason we needed to have a copy of the virus in every executable was because we were running on DOS, which doesn't usually support multiple programs running at once. And a lot of networks were little clumps of networked file systems.

      Now that the most common OS's support multiple processes at once, and the internet/web/email is the main thing that connects everybody (and writable network file systems are mainly only found in the workplace), viruses have naturally changed.

  2. Re:I wonder by prat393 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, I have to wonder how well the whole antivirus industry is handling the problem; why release virus signatures instead of just changing the entire underlying security system in the operating system? It's things like viruses that make SELinux seem like a very good idea to me.

  3. Re:I wonder by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's things like SELinux that make the status quo seem like a very good idea to the antivirus industry.

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  4. Half-life of Viruses by Melvin+Daniels · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "There's still a big perception out there that only broadband users need one," Lee says. "Everyone needs a firewall, along with antivirus."

    This rings all too true. If forwarding ports for certain applications wasn't such a pain in the ass, I would say make ISPs require firewalls or find a way to have some sort of personal firewall for their connection that they can access from the internet and change the settings on. Just a thought.

    This would bring up other problems, but it'd at least stop a lot of problems with trojans and open relays.

  5. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Virus writers seem to be paying more and more attention to what makes people click - and that makes observers like Lee suspicious. "I'm sure these people are recruiting psychologists."

    How does that go?

    "I AM PR3PAr3D T0 0ff3R TH3 2um 0F tHR33 BaGz 0f Ch33zY P00fS 4 a 3l33T P2Ych0!og!st!!!"

    "While you clearly have abandonment issues, the practice has been hard up for money lately. Very well, I accept. But first, tell me about your mother."

    Look, it doesn't take a psychologist to explain that when you sit the average person in front of a computer, they become a mouse-clicking fool. No amount of emergency IT sessions with the staff explaining precautionary tactics involving attachments is going to change that, and if any psychologist recruitment is necessary it's to explain why the average person keeps clicking attachments to messages in obviously broken English.

    That's why blaming software vendors like Microsoft is stupid. Will four ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO RUN THIS warnings before allowing the execution of an attachment do any more than three?

  6. Re:I wonder by prat393 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But how often do you run across a computer you have to service with expired virus subscriptions? It seems to happen to me quite a bit. I suppose M$'s virus scanner mentioned earlier on /. might help, but that reeks even more of conspiracy than the current "protection money" setup does.

    Rather than bundling a questionably legal virus scanner into their next service pack, Microsoft should perhaps add a tool that helps to lock down permissions on NTFS volumes, creates unpriveleged accounts for users and various services, etc. Even with the multitude of security holes, Windows can be made a lot harder to mess with, if you put a little work into. The key here is privelege seperation.

  7. Re:AV companies? by benj_e · · Score: 5, Insightful

    programmers that prefer to spend their know-how writing code they will never get paid for, instead of selling their experience to someone who needs it and earn a lot of money

    Right, no one would ever write code for the joy of writing it. That's why this OSS fad will never take off...oh wait.
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