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Cincinnati Gets Broadband Over Power Lines

kotj.mf writes "According to the Cincinnati Enquirer, Cincinnati-area electric utility Cinergy has become the first electric utility in the country to offer broadband over power lines. There's also a press release. At $29.95/month for 1 Mb/s both upstream and down, it's only a few bucks more than the local dialup providers. Can we expect the power companies to start giving Cable and DSL providers a run for their money? Finally, my town gets AHEAD of the times, for once."

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  1. 1 mb/s upstream for $30? by dewhite · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder if they will deliver on the promise of 1 mb/s upstream. Getting a megabit down is common place these days, but that kind of upload bandwidth would be nice to have for 30 bucks a month...

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  2. Re: can we expect... by PedanticSpellingTrol · · Score: 5, Interesting
    No.

    Ham Radio will interfere with it severely, and there won't be a damn thing the provider can do because it's under FCC part 15, which must accept any harmful interference, especially from PROPERLY LICENSED services. Of course, the same rules will also hold the power company for any interference caused to the amateur radio service. Don't expect this to be available for long. Maybe now everybody will see that it doesn't work and let the abomination die like it should.

  3. Symmetric speeds!? by compbrain · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why is it that the (currently) most controversial method of broadband internet access gets symmetric speeds by default? Are power companies the only ones to realize that it makes sense to give identical upload and download?

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  4. interference issues by jwhamilton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    so what are the interference ramifications of this?? i still hear people complain about this. i think the biggest thing to note is the price. im under the impression that cable/dsl are typically 40-50 around the US. if this is an indication, then i think power internet will become prevelent quickly. cheaper and more widely available (theoretically)

  5. Re:What's so special about this? by binaryDigit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Am I missing something?

    Indeed, a fairly high bandwidth pipe utilizing existing infrastructure. What's not "special"? The only line going into someones house that's more pervasive than the phone line are power lines. And no mention of dsl's distance woes. Big news indeed. If it comes here, I'm all over this.

  6. Re:Tap in... by pclminion · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I want to see the first guy to to try tap into that broadband illegally....bzzzp!

    Considering that the power line is (drum roll please) a giant freaking antenna, all you really need to tap into someone's traffic is a radio receiver.

    Yay! Now we get to have the detriments of wireless systems (interference, monitoring by third parties, etc.) without any of the benefits of, well, being wireless.

    Dumbest idea ever.

  7. Bigger band on the market by sheetsda · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live just north of Cinci and the local DSL provider (Zoomtown) just bumped their customers up to 3/1 MbPS (something like $40 a month). Roadrunner cable (~$45 a month I believe) is also a big competitor in the area. Cool technology, but are they really going to get a big market share with cheap slow dial-up at $10 less a month and bigger band at $10-15 more? Seems to me they need to increase their speed to compete with broadband or lower their price to compete with dialup.

  8. Holey Shiiiet... by PedanticSpellingTrol · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Dear god, I was just RTFA and noticed this little bit in there:
    Cinergy and Current also will use Current Technologies(TM) BPL equipment to implement important new services that will provide improved reliability and increased efficiency for Cinergy's utility subsidiaries and their customers. BPL technology can enable a variety of enhanced power distribution applications, including:

    * Automated outage detection and restoration confirmation

    * Remote monitoring and operation of switches and transformers

    * Remote capability to connect and disconnect electric service

    * More efficient demand-side management programs

    * Automated meter reading

    Am I to understand that they're going to be controlling their critical infrastructure over IP? WTF? WTF? Has nobody in their management structure considered the security risks inherent in that madness? Much less the certainty of brutal RF interference from (and to) Hams and Emergency Service? This brings me to ask a few critical questions here, if anybody can answer them please speak up:

    1: Could someone with a properly configured radio reciever monitor traffic over this system wirelessly?

    2: If it's possible to monitor signals with radio equipment, could you transit? Is it unreasonable to call this analagous to the power co. deciding they're going to switch all their equipment over a wireless network?