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Judge Orders SCO, IBM To Produce Disputed Code

An anonymous reader writes "A NewsForge story [part of OSDN, like Slashdot] says a court ruling by Judge Brooke C. Wells in the SCO Group vs. IBM intellectual property lawsuit amounting to 'show me the code' was released today in the form of a nine-page document [PDF link]. For a change, the SCO Group had no comment, because Judge Wells told it not to issue any. The judge said SCO is to provide and identify all specific lines of code IBM is alleged to have contributed to Linux from either AIX or Dynix, provide and identify all specific lines of code from Unix System V from which IBM's contributions from AIX or Dynix are alleged to be derived, and provide and identify all lines of code in Linux that it claims rights to."

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  1. Finally by ben_white · · Score: 4, Funny

    So is the fat lady warming up?

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    1. Re:Finally by will12 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now whats the penatly for calling a judge fat?

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    2. Re:Finally by Imperator · · Score: 4, Funny

      Depends on how the scales of justice find.

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  2. Re:Time for SCO to put up by beni1207 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well...the saying is "put up or shut up". My money's on the latter.

  3. put up and shut up by sp00 · · Score: 5, Funny

    For a change, the SCO Group had no comment, because Judge Wells told it not to issue any.
    It's about time...

  4. Lines of code belonging to SCO by asmellysock · · Score: 4, Funny

    This line is ours:

    {

    and so is this:

    int i;

    1. Re:Lines of code belonging to SCO by beware1000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, I'm not sure if you realise but ANSI stands for 'Another Neat SCO Idea'... They own the whole damn standard.

    2. Re:Lines of code belonging to SCO by prof187 · · Score: 5, Funny

      along with this block of code:

      /*
      This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
      modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
      as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
      of the License, or (at your option) any later version.

      This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
      but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
      MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
      GNU General Public License for more details.

      You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
      along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
      Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA.
      */

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  5. New poll idea: by Lane.exe · · Score: 4, Funny
    How SCO will stall around this deadline:

    (*) More countersuits

    (*) They won't

    (*) Darl ends up sharing a cell with CowboyNeal

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  6. Re:Time for SCO to put up by wolenczak · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think it's the right time to purchase licenses so we can sue SCO afterwards for hundreds of times what we paid for. (If they've got any money left)

  7. next excuse by prof187 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "As a result of this newest court order, SCO now has another 45 days, or until April 17, to produce the disputed lines of code and explain them clearly to the court."

    Darl: "we were working on our taxes and 2 days is *so* not long enough to make all of this up"

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  8. Re:Finally we'll see an end to this FiaSCO. ;) by BrynM · · Score: 5, Funny
    If it's not, then we can kick SCO's ass into oblivious. :)

    SCO is already "oblivious", now if we can get them into oblivion... that would be nice.
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  9. Re:Start Counting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "...now SCO has 45 days in which to produce the offending lines of code"

    That allows SCO to present their evidence on April 1. I like the way this judge thinks!

  10. Re:Quick Question... by lambent · · Score: 4, Funny


    In the investors' telecast this morning, darl pronounced it as both "S-C-O" and "SKO". Also, there was some guy i couldn't identify who kept calling darl "daarrell."

  11. Re:Quick Question... by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    I say "Ess-See-Owe" although based on this latest news I think "Ess-Owe-Ell" is more appropriate. :)

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  12. It's like a scene from Hollywood by DangerSteel · · Score: 4, Funny
    Ok, So I see both parties are ordered to bring in code. SCO has to bring in code from AIX or Dynix that shows IBM has stolen or copied code from UNIX. Plus SCO shows any code in Linux it thinks was stolen. IBM as been ordered to bring in up to 232 versions of AIX and Dynix, all papers from employees working on any Linux project including marketing and past and present management memo's, contact information from 1000 of 7200 potential witnesses.

    So I see SCO coming in with a 3 x 5 card and IBM coming in with bags and bags of info as if from a scene in "Miracle on 34th Street" . The judge rules SCO is some kind of legal pyramid scheme and IBM is a real software company. Christmas is saved!

  13. Upstaging SCO in a very public way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This idea just popped into my head, in case someone has the balls to do it. If you have a company that could generate some sort of press attention by buying an SCO license, buy one and tell Darl that you'll be glad to attend a press conference with him to make the announcement. Then, when everyone's there with their tape recorders, cameras, etc. out and ready, get up to the podium, hold up the license, and announce to the world that you bought it so you'd have a nice momento to hang on your wall when this is all over and SCO has been pounded into the ground by IBM's legal team. After that, I figure you'll have about two minutes to begin making your case before utter pandemonium sets in. Don't waste those few minutes. Arrive well-armed with as many through legal analyses as you can gather, in paper form and on CD for easy cutting and pasting. You'll want these to give out to the reporters who'll be clamoring to know how you reached this conclusion. Be calm, professional, and thorough, and if you have the luxury, have an attorney waiting nearby who will then walk in on cue and answer any legal questions that may come up.

    Then, sit back and watch the fallout.

    Oh yeah, and you may also want to have a paramedic on hand to revive Darl, who will undoubtedly have had a heart attack by this time.

  14. Re:The funniest thing is... by tacotruckcmdr · · Score: 5, Funny

    So SCO is going to come out and charge the court $699 too..I can imagine what the judge will do now to SCO.

    I hope we get pictures.

  15. Netcraft confirms... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is official.
    Netcraft confirms: SCO is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered SCO community when IDC confirmed that SCO market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all Linux distribution versions. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that SCO has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. SCO is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by falling dead last in a recent Linux distribution study.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict SCO's future. The hand writing is on the wall: SCO faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for SCO because SCO is dying. Things are looking very bad for SCO. As many of us are already aware, SCO continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    SCO UNIX is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time developers Simon Baldwin and Andrew Sharpe only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: SCO is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    SCO UNIX project leader Darl states that there are 7000 users of SCO UNIX. How many users of OpenServer are there? Let's see. The number of SCO UNIX versus OpenServer posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 OpenServer users. SCO UNIX posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of OpenServer posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of SCO UNIX. A recent article put SCO UNIX distribution at about 80 percent of the market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 SCO UNIX users. This is consistent with the number of SCO Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of half-baked SCO lawsuits, abysmal sales and so on, many development companies is going out of business and will probably be taken over by another company who will sell another troubled product. Now SCO is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that SCO has steadily declined in market share. SCO is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If SCO is to survive at all it will be among dilettante dabblers. SCO continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, SCO is dead.

    Fact: SCO is dying

  16. Re:The Court: SCO made "good faith effort" to comp by jomegat · · Score: 5, Funny
    IBM has the same 45 days to produce this as SCO does to produce its evidence of infringement.

    I hope IBM delivers the code to SCO in the form of a truckload of paper printed in a greek font.

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  17. Re:Quick Question... by SkoZombie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wish they'd avoid pronouncing it SKO ... its giving me a bad name! I think i should sue for loss of reputation.

  18. Re:Horrible title... by estes_grover · · Score: 4, Funny

    Show me yours, I'll show you mine ?

  19. Re:Quick Question... by dipipanone · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've never heard anyone who has actually used one of their products say "S-C-O"

    I've never heard of anyone who has actually used one of their products.

  20. Re:Time for SCO to put up by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh wow!! Where do I get this BacOS? Can I run it on linux? How about my 486.... oh Bacos..... like the little chunks of food thingy..... right....

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  21. Re:Quick Question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And their other brother Daryl.

  22. Re:Start Counting... by Spacejock · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sure. Now they can get up in court and yell...

    APRIL FOOLS!

    Trouble is, they've been building the joke far too long, and whatever the punchline I doubt it's going to be all that funny.

  23. Re:The funniest thing is... by MyHair · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey, I'm kinda new here. Would this be an appropriate time for that goat something link?

  24. A-ha! by TrebleJunkie · · Score: 4, Funny

    So *that's* how you say, "shit or get off the pot," in 9 pages.

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    You know, oblivion keeps looking better every day.

  25. Re:Quick Question... by RedPhoenix · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh I think that's a bit harsh - my budgie (parakeet) is extremely happy with his copy of Caldera Openlinux 2.2-N.

    The back of the CD functions extremely well as a mirror.

    Red.

  26. For those curious by dacarr · · Score: 4, Funny
    This is not a "put up or shut up" demand from the judge. Note the judge told SCO to not comment.

    It is therefore a "Shut up and put up" demand.

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  27. Re:The funniest thing is... by roystgnr · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is NEVER an appropriate time for that goat something link.

  28. Lazy editors. by eniu!uine · · Score: 4, Funny

    Surely there was a larger file on SCO's website they could have linked to. The site is still up!

  29. Re:Quick Question... by kundor · · Score: 5, Funny
    "and it was pronounced "S.C.O. Unix", as the letters were still an abbreviation. "

    Yeah, abbreviations are always pronounced with individual letters...it would be really freakish if people didn't say G-N-U, or L-A-S-E-R, or A-S-C-I-I. As if those are words. That would be ridiculous, like Kramer trying to use "Quone" in a game of Scrabble.