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Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community is Available
joestar writes "The new 'Mandrake Linux 10.0 Community' release has just been announced. It provides many new features including Linux 2.6.3, MagicDev, KDE 3.2, GNOME 2.4, a new Mandrakeonline service and others. Download ISOs are available through torrent for Club Members and 10.0 developers. A 10.0 DVD is also available at MandrakeStore. This a first step for this new exciting Mandrake, because in May, an Official version will appear, and both versions will officially be supported. Happy downloads!"
Gentoo beat Mandrake by a few days, with its 2004.0 release. And yes, I consider this a "major" distribution, folks. It's got some of the best documentation around, too.
The 2.6 Kernel comes with the alsa sound system built in. If you had to install alsa seprately before, this will be a welcome change.
Considering the change to the scheduler to make everything seem snappier, the increased ammount of drivers for newer hardware, all the performance enhancement... Even my mom would be able to tell the difference between 2.4 and 2.6 on day to day usage. Its just that good.
They appealed the decision and, through the magic of the court system, the final decision on a name change is years away.
"Watch your cornhole, bud."
One of the best things about the new Mandrake (to me, anyway) is that it's the first fully supported FREE distro that has Samba 3 built into it. In the past, Samba 3 was available for Mandrake, but support for it was flaky. Sure, you could fork out $1000 or more for Red Hat Enterprise, but why? Even SuSE 9.0 had Samba 2.2.x in it. While I'm sure there are things that need to be refined and will be fixed in the "Official" version, it's a great way for us Windows converts to get our feet wet with the new Samba, instead of learning the old way and having to change our approach with the major overhaul in version 3.
Just my 2 cents....
And you do have to remember that Mandrake is the largest distro in use in North America. AFAIK, SuSE's the biggest in Europe, and TurboLinux is the largest in Asia.
Mandrake is a leading distribution. Just look at http://www.distrowatch.com/ and look at the page hit ranking.
It's true, it appeared on www.kde.org.
Basically, they found a few serious bugs with kmail and they advised to repackage kde 3.2 from the stable cvs branch or wait for 3.2.1
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> Mandrake will go bancrupt soon. They need to make
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> some funding if they are not to go under.
Unfortunately for you, it seems you'll have to hear from Mandrake still for a while:
MandrakeSoft's First Quarter Results for 2003/2004: +8.4% revenue, +28.9% gross margin, 270,000 profit (http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/community/ma
This however won't affect Mandrake users, since ALSA has been the default sound system for years under Mandrake.
But the previous releases had some issues with devfs (also default), and it seens that it has changed to "udev" on kernel 2.6. I hope the issues are over.
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If you want to use the gui, it's completely painless. Open the Mandrake Configuration Wizard, go to packaging, click update. By default it only gets security fixes, you'll want bugfixes and general updates as well, so check those, and select all the updates, and click install.
If you have broadband, one of the first things you should do with mandrake is remove the cd's as package sources (in the gui, just to to packaging->manage media, or something like that, and delete the cd sources) and follow the directions at http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php to add ftp mirrors. Then you can install programs on the command line (as root) by saying "urpmi package." For instance, urpmi gaim will install gaim. "urpmi -y blah" searches. "urpme package" uninstalls. "urpmi --auto-select" updates everything. The gui tools can do all this too.
I've been using Mandrake Cooker for a few weeks now, and I think kernel 2.6 + kde 3.2 is awesome. My computer feels way faster. There are some problems (I haven't updated in a few days, so these may have gotten fixed):
1) My HP PSC 2210 USB printer doesn't work (worked in 9.2).
2) My wife's Sony Vaio has a problem loading the agpgart module on bootup. When I get to the console, I modprobe agpgart and startx, and everything's fine (again, worked in 9.2).
3) OpenOffice hasn't made any advances in the last couple months (still at 1.1). Not Mandrake's fault, I realize, just a general complaint. OpenOffice is still soooooo slow.
Anyone know how cooker relates to this version? I'm assuming this is just a snapshot of cooker.
"Now gluttony and exploitation serves eight!" - TV's Frank
Mandrake has in a recent survey(~Nov 2003) some 60% market share in the UK. This survey was perhaps not the most scientific, I think it was for readers of Linux Format or similar. However it does indicate how popular the distro is.
With 10 now comming out, I think it will maintain it.
I still dont know anyone using Fedora, while everyone I know uses MDK.
My other Sig is very funny.
The best solution for now is to get the 9.2 amd64 isos, get on cooker servers and update everything (note, this won't be as easy as usual, you might have to manually urpmi a lot of packages), and then install the 2.6.3 kernel yourself.
If that's not something you're comfortable doing, waiting for the 10.0 amd64 iso to come out is probably a better idea. It may be a month or two though.
Why do you think that Fedora has Mandrake beat on the desktop? Mandrake has everything you'd ever need: most of the open-source programs out there, great configuration utilities, and a great rpm setup using their urpmi (similar to Debian's apt-get).
The club is only "necessary" if you want to get the releases right now and get some other proprietary software (much of which you can download yourself - they just offer it in an easy-to-use format). I'm not a member of the club (I'm poor right now), and yet I'm able to get the ISOs for free a few weeks after they're released to the club.
You do realize that companies do need to make money. Based on my last experience with RedHat 9, I won't be trying Fedora for quite a while. I was able to configure everything much more easily in Mandrake than I was in RedHat.
Mandrake has contributed a great set of software, and if you'd actually try version 9.0 and up, you'd agree it has a great chance of becoming popular with Grandma. (versions 7 & 8 were good, too, but not good enough for Grandma)
I make my own DVD's by moving all of the RPM's the same folder, or by copying the RPMS,(2),(3) folder to the same dir that the original RPMS folder is in (forgot the path, and can't look at it at the moment). Just burn that to a DVD and it works fine... never swap a disc again :)
That's maybe the reason why they created a new development scheme, with two versions:. php3
"Significant change in Mandrake Linux Development Process"
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/pr-releaseprocess
I think this can really have a positive effect on the quality of final products.
1)Remove all media for your old release
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... but if you don't you will most likely at least want to restart your window manager ..).
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# urpmi.removemedia -a
(beware, -a removes all media
2)Add media for your new release. If that's the CDs, insert disk one and do
# urpmi.addmedia --distrib 10.0-cd removable:///mnt/cdrom
3)Update urpmi (in future this won't be necessary, the urpmi in 10.0 will automatically update itself if it sees there is an update, and then restart
# urpmi urpmi
4)Upgrade everything else
# urpmi --auto-select
5)Choose a kernel
# urpmi kernel
6)Reboot
# reboot
(only if you need to
So, in 10.0 (or if you're running a beta or rc or cooker), it about a 3 or 4 step process - new/update media; urpmi --auto-select;urpmi kernel
Note that if you don't use the installer, some things are not done for you, so read the release notes
2.4: Compiling, listening to Ogg's and burning a CD.
Result: Skipping music and a coastered CD.
2.6: Compiling, listening to Oggs and burning a CD.
Result: burning works better than with ide-scsi emulation, music is smooth and skip-free. Compiling is a little bit slower, but hey, I use Gentoo I can wait.
3/12/2004 |10.0 Download | 3 first CDs of download edition released to everyone
From the wiki Release page
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I'm running cooker 10 so I might be able to help point out some of the changes that will help "Joe User".
/home partition and just reinstall the system without having to rebuild all my tools since most of them are included.
The most significant change is with the scheduler. X is much more responsive to the user now... You get used the the standard interface and have to wait as the screen redraws and such to the point that you really don't notice. Changing to the new kernel I have noticed that X seems significantly better. The system seems much more responsive than it used to be.
The packages that I upgraded seem to have more features as well. For instance Bittorrent now has an upload and download display so that I can see how much I have uploaded vs downloaded on any given torrent... Where as before it seemed that it was taking forever to download files, and my upload stream always was filled... I can now see that on any given torrent I am uploading about 50-100% more than I am downloading... Very nice...
Also my previous version was Mandrake 8.0 and I had to build and create several packages on my own. Now most of the packages seem that I use on a daily basis are included. Which saves me problems as well. I was able to just nuke my previous / partition keeping my
When I originally built the 2.6 kernel I was having sound problems... ie It doesn't play... Now 10.0rc1 had same problems... Which is why I pulled cooker and implemented it... Now sound is actually being recognized and configured automatically. Note that I did not have problems with sound with 8, but as I noted I was trying to upgrade to the 2.6 kernel and started to have problems...
Integrated alsa sound is also nice... The mixer works better than the old oss sound system.
Those are the major changes. The responsive increase, additional packages, more features in packages I already use, and the ease of setup with everything just working mark it up as a win in my book.
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The Captive is working very nice for me, thoug a bit cpu intensive and slow but otherwise working perfect for my Mandrake 9.2 and the install was easy. here is the discription from the website:
The NTFS driver that comes with any Linux 2.6 gives very good reading performance, but the write support is not usefull.This boils down to two options for the user:
Users who can't used bittorrent can request FTP/HTTP access, as you can see on your bittorrent page. However, they prefer that you use bittorrent (since it is more efficient for everyone).
When I visit https://www.mandrakeclub.com/user.php?op=myBittor
I'm currently getting less than 10kB/s down using bittorrent.
Then, you haven't read the article linked to on the bittorrent page:
If you read the cooker archives for today, you will see some people complaining abot getting 10k/s, and they are answered by people getting 150k/s or more.
Many users had all 5 ISOs (if you're a silver member) less than 6 hours after they started.
And them's the facts.
No, that's your opinion, and I don't agree with it.