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scubacuda writes "PC World: ICQ Universe (now owned by AOL) will soon be the first to offer social networking services on an IM platform. One has to wonder what types of legal issues might surface as social networks (particularly those unsecured) become more popular. For example, could being an IM buddy with someone later come back and haunt you?"

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  1. Prediction about "social network software" by heironymouscoward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This round is a fad.

    It will last about 2-3 years and then disappear as people realize that the software does not support the true exchanges that keep human social networks running.

    And in 5-10 years someone will build social networking software that really works. Some clues: men and women build different kinds of social networks. Younger and older people build different kinds of network. Information has value. People trade information. Social networks are information economies.

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    1. Re:Prediction about "social network software" by DavidDeLux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think it will take less time that the 5-10 years you talk about... software development moves quite quickly - although I would have to say that software innovation moves less slowly ;-)

      How difficult would it be to create a network that caters for the different social groups that you talk about. But, are there any differences between the networks that these groups create? Sure, the criteria for determining who is added/excluded from a group will be different, but the underlying requirements are the same. Psychologists feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!!

    2. Re:Prediction about "social network software" by Apreche · · Score: 4, Informative

      May I refer you to this great article by Doug Rushkoff.

      Social Currency

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    3. Re:Prediction about "social network software" by hype7 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      This round is a fad.

      It will last about 2-3 years and then disappear as people realize that the software does not support the true exchanges that keep human social networks running.


      I think you're right, but I'm not sure it'll even last that long.

      The thing that has made IM so popular is not that it tries to facilitate the true exchange of human social networks, but instead it tries to support it. If organisations like ICQ refocused their efforts on how best to support existing types of human networks instead of trying to replace them, then I think they might be on to something.

      I can't remember the details, but MS (of all companies) was really on to something like this a little while back. They also limited group sizes, which is a clever way of ensuring meaningful interaction between acquaintances when they're online.

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  2. The Internet becomes more like the real world... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I guess all these "social networks" make the internet more and more like the real world. Have to be careful of who you talk to, etc.

    Except of course in the real work scamming someone is a lot more work - on the internet they can't see you, so you could be scamming lots of people at once. The "social networks" might even build up a higher layer of false trust.

    Damn you internet!

  3. Simply chatting with someone can be a problem. by JanusFury · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A few years back, during the eFront Fiasco, someone got a hold of ICQ Chat Logs off of the machine of Sam Jain, the CEO of eFront. I was an administrator of one of the sites that got hit hard by the scandal, and if my memory serves the chat logs (which included a lot of very embarassing things being said by Sam and other higher-ups at eFront) were one of the big things that resulted in eFront's eventual destruction.

    I can only imagine how much worse it will get when ICQ expands its services.

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  4. Re:The Internet becomes more like the real world.. by selderrr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am totally baffled... More and more, I have the impression that a majority of slashdotters is really afraid of any form of bidirectional and/or replyable (you call it tracable) communication. For heavens sake : where's the principle of "innocent till proven otherwise" ?

    I notice this attitude going on at my kids school too : don't talk to anyone, don't look at anyone, don't think about anyone. Curl up inside your safe self-shell and murmur away. I once had hope that the internet, and especially AIM were a way out of this downward spiral, but the FUDders and paranoiacs are well on their way to ruin that utopia.

  5. Makes life easier & harder for law enforcement by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Although online social network technology makes it easier for law enfrocement to track people and find out who they are connected too, it also makes life harder for the law. These types of networks encourage large numbers of connections. While the subjects of an investigation might only call a dozen different people by phone, they might have hundreds of contacts in an online environment. Tracking down all these contacts, most of whom are innocuous, becomes a labor-intensive needle-in-a-haystack problem.

    The more contacts people have, the harder it is to determine which contacts are the salient ones from the standpoint of investigation.

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  6. Invite only. So now we are not invited to computer by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 4, Funny

    Invite only. So now we geeks are not invited to computer parties as well? Dang.

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  7. A lot of things will come back to haunt us by sisukapalli1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Usenet posts, for example. Slashdot posts too. However, with so many people being online, unless one plans to run for a major office, things won't be scrutinized much (or, atleast one can hope for that).

    I wonder how a race for a public office in 2020 would look like. A multimedia ad sponsored by next generation media cronies will say, "Candidate xyz posted *THIS unpatriotic message* on slashdot in 2003, so don't vote for him" A lot depends on how the people evolve by then -- may be they will wisen up and can think for themselves, or may be they no longer cease to be people and just become sheeple.

    Definitely, interesting times ahead.

    S

    1. Re:A lot of things will come back to haunt us by Councilor+Hart · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Hey guys, from 2020, who are investigating my posts.
      Please bear in mind that viewpoints can and do change.
      If everyone always stick to their opinions - right or wrong - then what is the point of debate? Changing your mind is allowed. Hopefully most - me included - do it because the arguments from the other side were better or because the first opinion was based on a flaw.
      My posts represents my viewpoint at the moment of posting. It can be different from my ideas in the past, it can be different from those in the future. My idea can change the moment I read someone's reply a few minutes later. It can change years later or not at all.
      To make progress, you have to allow that someone changes his mind.
      We are not born with ideas preprogrammed, we make them as we go through live. And we change them in those years.
      To point out what someone said 20 years ago is meaningless. Look at what is being said today.
      You can look at skills or style or ... with wich those ideas were presented at the time, but the ideas themselves could have changed.
      Is the person trustworthy and qualified? That is one of the questions you should be asking yourself.


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  8. How is this different? by Garwulf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay, I've read the article.

    So, could somebody please explain something to me: how is this different from what ICQ and the other IMs already offer? It almost feels to me like somebody putting a nice new coat of paint on something that's already there, and then bragging about it.

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  9. 27 Year Old Russian Girl Wants To Meet You by gadlaw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Humm, I remember when ICQ was a wonder and people from around the world would drop by for a visit and a chat. Now that has changed and the only people who ever want to message me anymore are those 27 year old russian girls with websites and they want me to look at their pictures. Eh? I know where to get good p0rn and it isn't from the web or from fake 27 year old girls. I doubt very seriously that any sort of social networking system in the AOL crapware that ICQ has become can ever be good. -Unless of course there are plenty of pretty 27 year old russian girls who want to really meet me that is. So sayeth the gadlaw.

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  10. Chatting can indeed be dangerous!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used to work on AOL as a Guide. One time there was a Guide they suspected was into kiddie porn. So, Not only did they (Law Enforcement) read all of his email for awhile, they also read email of all the people he talked to. Basically they were on a Fishing Expedition. They thought this guy was doing kiddie porn so of course they figured everyone else he talked to must be doing kiddie porn too!

    I still remember, the day I opened my mail box (real one) and there was an envelope, from the Virgina Dept of Justice, telling me, hey guess what, we've been spying on your email for a few months while we investigated someone else. Hope you don't mind!!

    And this was 6 or 8 years ago! God knows what they can do now, with carnivore and more powerful computers.