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Turbo Codes Promise Better Wireless Transmission

captain igor writes "IEEE is running a story about two French professors that have created a new class of encoding, called 'Turbo Codes,' that will allow engineers to pass almost twice as much data through a given communications channel, or equivalently, the same amount of data at half the power. The new codes allow the Shannon Limit (the theoretical maximum capacity of a channel) to be approached to, currently, within .5 dB. Scientists hope that this breakthrough will revolutionize wireless communications, especially with the coming reclamation of large swaths of the EM spectrum." As the article points out, such codes are in use now, but seem poised for much wider implementation.

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  1. Reception Quality. by Omni+Magnus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I live in a rural area, where we are sometimes lucky that we have a signal, let alone a good one. This could improve the reception for us a lot. Either that, or it doubles the battery life of the cell phones. Either way, I am happy. Although I wonder if this coding could be used in wireless devices as well. Hopefully this could somehow be used to help limit the battery drain of WiFi on a laptop/PDA.

  2. Turbo Codes for modems? by Doppler00 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Could turbo codes be used with a 56K modem giving somewhere around 80kbps of bandwidth?

  3. Moores Law? by scum-e-bag · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is there a similar Law to Moores law (or a combination of such) that could be applied to this compression of data and the effective use of the spectrum? As time goes I feel we are going to see the need for the available ammount of wireless transmission medium to increase. How long before we hit the theoretical limit of data transmission and the planet is saturated?

    Just interested...

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  4. It gets better by s20451 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Briefly, the big problem in data communication is achieving the Shannon limit, which is the maximum theoretical data rate at which information can be transmitted with arbitrarily low probability of error. Shannon proved his result in 1948, but until the Turbo guys, nobody knew how to achieve it.

    The main problem is that optimal decoding of any non-trivial code is NP-hard, which has been known for about 30 years now (i.e., the only known algorithm has exponential complexity in the code length). The Turbo breakthrough was to show that a suboptimal decoder with O(n) complexity for code length n could nonetheless achieve excellent results. This is the so-called "Turbo principle".

    There is an even "newer" class of codes called Low-Density Parity-Check Codes that can beat turbo codes. Turbo codes have a small gap to the Shannon limit, and these new codes can potentially eliminate the gap. Small gains are a big deal; the rule of thumb is that 1 dB of gain is equal to a million dollars of annual revenue for a wireless provider.

    The twist is that these LDPC codes were actually proposed in a 1963 PhD thesis, but were disregarded as beyond the computational abilities of the time. They were only "rediscovered" in 1996, after the Turbo code furore.

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    1. Re:It gets better by GuyZero · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The twist is that these LDPC codes were actually proposed in a 1963 PhD thesis, but were disregarded as beyond the computational abilities of the time. They were only "rediscovered" in 1996, after the Turbo code furore.

      The article also mentions that the latency associated with turbo codes is too high for most voice applications and that LDPC codes, while more computationally intensive, have a low latency. (At least, that's what I remember from the article).

      I thought it was funny that their sponsor, Alcatel or whoever, never patented it in Asia so NTT has been using turbo codes in Japan for years, free.

  5. Re:TURBO! by nosphalot · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Actually, turbo is an appropriate name for the way these codes work. If I remember correctly, its been 4 years since it was explained to me, as the data leaves the encoder, some of it gets routed back into the first stage to act as a hint for encoding the next stage of data. So the data exhaust, helps compress the data intake, much like a mechanical turbo.

  6. Re:Odd wording by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It's odd that "turbo code" in the satellite biz means one particular code patented by France Telecom.

    It's more odd "turbo code" has been claimed to be only one instance of a class of
    Low Density Parity Checking (LDPC) codes.

    It's greatly odd we don't refer to all instances of this class of coding as "Gallager Codes".
    If the demodulator is recursive, then it's a Gallager code?!

  7. LDPC codes by auburnate · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Lots of /.ers have been quick to point out that turbo codes have been around since 1993. However, the IEEE article points out that LDPC ( low density parity check) codes were invented in the early 1960s. Researchers have gotten the LDPC codes to outperform the turbo codes, and to top it off, the LDPC patents have all expired, meaning no royalty fees like turbo codes. My first slashdot post ... be gentle!!!

    1. Re:LDPC codes by Wimmie · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Lots of /.ers have been quick to point out that turbo codes have been around since 1993. However, the IEEE article points out that LDPC ( low density parity check) codes were invented in the early 1960s. Researchers have gotten the LDPC codes to outperform the turbo codes, and to top it off, the LDPC patents have all expired, meaning no royalty fees like turbo codes.

      The patent issue might by one of the reasons why it is probably not as widespread in use today. In Space communication various methods of FEC (Forward Error Correction) have been in use since the 60's.

      On OSCAR40 (a radio amateur satelite) it is one of the reasons why they proposed the combination of Viterbi (against random errors) and Reed-Solomon (against burst errors) codecs.

      A quote from KA9Q's website:

      Why not turbo codes?

      Some readers may ask: why not turbo codes? Why use FEC technology that has already been around for 25 years? The answer is simple: while turbo codes do outperform by 1-2 dB the classic concatenated codes proposed here, they were only discovered in the early 1990s and as such are surrounded by a minefield of patents that will not begin to expire for another decade. The Viterbi decoder was invented in the late 1960s, and the concatenated code used here has been around, almost in the present form, since before Voyager 1 and 2 were launched in 1977, so all patents on this technology have long since expired.

      http://www.ka9q.net/papers/ao40tlm.html

    2. Re:LDPC codes by TheSync · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Be careful, there are some specific LDPC codes that have been patented (such as the Digital Fountain "tornado" codes).

  8. Re:LDPC codes (useful links to coding information) by rhussmann · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The neat thing about Turbo codes is that they're being used in the 3G cell phone standards (along with various other codes.) Turbo codes are powerful because they are iterative: they make several approximations at the information sent across the wire (or lack of wire, heh).

    This allows the system to do a good job of guessing what the original message is quickly. If you're interested in Turbo Codes, one of my former professors has done a lot of work with them, and has links to other turbo code sites on his website:

    http://www.csee.wvu.edu/~mvalenti

    Click on the turbo code link.

  9. Re:STOP USING THE WORD "TURBO" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Actually, as someone above pointed out, it is slightly similar to a turbo exhaust. You take the output of the decoder (its guesses basically) and feed it back into the decoder for another pass. As you iterate over the data block in different dimensions, thus after correcting one section in one axis, you might be able to correct a different section in another axis that previously had too many errors to correct.

    Back to the point, it is somewhat similar to a turbo, more so than most things that use the name.

  10. Re:TURBO! - The name is correct! by Terje+Mathisen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    nosphalot is correct: The Turbo breakthrough was that they determined that by using feedback, just as in an engine turbo, you could get arbitrarily close to Shannons limit.

    The key idea is that this feedback gives you an infinite impulse response, i.e. in theory all bits ever transmitted through such a channel will continue to affect it for ever after.

    Even if you do limit the feedback time to more reasonable levels, you can still get a very useful increase in channel capacity.

    It is also important to notice that such a channel must have significant delay, i.e. here's another reason to complain about being lagged. ;.)

    Terje

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