Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community Ready For Download

joestar writes "The new Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community has just showed up on Mandrake's FTP mirrors and through Bittorrent. MandrakeClub Members benefit from extra CDs downloads and even a DVD ISO for Corporate Memberships! Another good news for the Mandrake community is an announce from Mandrakesoft that due to the stock resumed trading on Euronext on last Monday, with a nice increase of +10.00% in three days." Update: 03/11 06:23 GMT by T : Cheap ISOs are also available from merchants like OSDisc.com and CheapBytes.

Comments

KDE 3.2!

[Anonymous Coward]

It has KDE 3.2, which is worth an upgrade all in itself! KDE 3.2 is a worth while upgrade, for any distro, not just Mandrake. I have it on Gentoo, and it sure kicks the crap out of XP on the dark side of my pc.

Re:KDE 3.2!

[Anonymous Coward]

Speed, KDE 3.2 is a lot faster in this release. Windows XP is not as fast. Responsiveness too, look and feel is KDEs biggest strength, with over 11 different styles to choose from. unlike the kludge of Windows XP theming, which dosen't work a lot of the time. Certainly usabillity. Windows XP has made a lot of mistakes, I prefer KDE because it is better than 98/2000 but without errors of XP. KDE's best kept secret of course is the Control Center, you can make KDE do almost anything with it.

Re:KDE 3.2!

[leviramsey]

It does... Even though it's tagged as "3.2.0" it's really 3.2.1 (all the fixes from CVS have been integrated).

Re:KDE 3.2!

[joestar]

Actually, Mandrakelinux 10.0 provides KDE 3.2 plus many patches that make it a KDE 3.2.1. Just for your information.

Re:KDE 3.2!

[pingveno]

- IMHO, great print subsystem (kprinter/cups) -- certains aspects of W2k/XP seemed umm.. hacked on (ie usb printer setups)

I beg to differ. I've been having problems with my printer lately on Mandrake. Unlike in XP, where a printer icon waits in the tray, I had to go through. Cups is great - if you're on a network with print services with a Linux guru available. I'd like it if there was one program I could go to to access all the print configuration. Next version?

Still, the print system is excellent - great output and wonderful if I need to print remotely (like from work/school). It just needs some loose ends tidied up.

Re:Does it have Kernel 2.6?

[Anonymous Coward]

From their features page:

System overview

Mandrakelinux 10.0 features the following software:

Kernel 2.6.3
XFree86 4.3
Glibc 2.3.3 with Native POSIX Threads Library (NPTL) support
GCC 3.3.2
Apache 2.0.48, Samba 3.0.2, MySQL 4.0.18
ProFTPD 1.2.9, Postfix 2.0.18, OpenSSH 3.6.1p2
KDE 3.2, GNOME 2.4.2, IceWM 1.2.13
OpenOffice.org 1.1, KOffice 1.3, Gnumeric 1.2.6
Mozilla 1.6, The GIMP 1.2.5, XMMS 1.2.9

Re:What's the legal status of the DVD?

[ttldkns]

Mandrake makes a point of it being a totally GPL distro.

2.6.3

[moberry]

Mandrakelinux 10.0 is based on Linux kernel 2.6.3

Based on 2.6.3, I think that this is the first distro to use the 2.6 series by defult. I could be mistaken though. Debian has had sid packages for 2.6 for a while.

Re:ATI Radeon problem?

[SpacePunk]

chromi is dead slow unless you install the x drivers for the card that use hardware acceleration. it was dead slow on my nvidia cards till I did this.

As a reminder

[dacarr]

Remember that the 10.0 community is subject to updates. Go down past the FTP mirror list and read the blurb just above the straight directory trees. So what you see here is not necessarily what ou are going to get when 10.0 public comes out.

In short, this is a final beta.

Re:P2P

[jonbryce]

Mandrake have already made it available on bittorrent. I believe the original article gave the link.

Re:What's the legal status of the DVD?

[joestar]

Mandrakelinux is totally Open Source / Free Software, but of course all components aren't covered by the GPL! (all Mandrakesoft's own code do though).

Re:Any chance of a cd-live version?

[Mr. Sketch]

Yep, it's already out out and on the mirrors next to the Mandrake 10 ISOs. It's called MandrakeMove.

Re:What's the legal status of the DVD?

[Vo0k]

Yes, that's the question. Is it GPL'd enough?

http://www.computing.net/linux/wwwboard/forum/23 60 6.html

Now, can a user redistribute a full ISO of the SuSE Distro?? Well, a distribution is something different. Is a compilation of packages that are totally open source and under GPL, but the distro itself does not have to be. Each distro manufaturer has developed unique ways for installation, package management, maintenance, etc (just some examples) that do not HAVE to be under the GPL or Open Source, BUT, most if not all, make them open as to continue with the Linux "spirit". But it is their choice and is not mandatory. One can take programs out of the distro and redistribute them and be ok. BUT, to fully redistribute the complete Distro (be it SuSE, Red Hat, Debian, Slack, etc etc) one has to read the actual license of each Distro, for each of them is different. That is the license for the distribution itself and not for the software that is compiled in it! ( I think most if not all distro companies have the full license posted on their site somewhere.)

Re:What does "Community" mean?

[homer_ca]

This should explain it:

What follows is the development process for our next major release, Mandrake Linux 10.0:

1) After the traditional debugging of several Beta and Release Candidates, the final version of "Mandrake Linux 10.0 Community" will be released in February/March. This version will be available for download and as a DVD-set through e-Commerce.

2) Then a Mandrake Linux 10.0 Stable branch will be opened, based on Mandrake Linux 10.0 Community. Security updates and bug fixes will be applied to this tree and will be publicly available in real time.

3) Two or three months later, in April/May, "Mandrake Linux 10.0 Official" will be created from the Mandrake 10.0 Stable branch. It will then be packaged for several products such as the Mandrake Linux PowerPack. Mandrake 10.0 Official ISO images will also be available for all contributors and Club Members; then, after a short delay, Mandrake Linux 10.0 Official Download Edition will be made available on public FTP mirrors.

Re:KDE 3.2.0 Faster...If you set it up right.

[Joe Tie.]

This might be because of the pre-emptible kernel

I can say that on my system at least, it had some significant gains in speed from KDE 3.1.x, aside from speed gains from the new kernel. I'm using Debian and didn't bother updating the kernel to 2.6 for a while, but in the meantime did do the kde 3.2 and experienced a pretty good speed increase. Though there was even more when I finally did update the kernel - in fact I did it after playing with a test release of Mandrake 10. 3.2 plus 2.6 had such a great effect together I had to have it on my main system.

Re:Torrent bah!

[Yosho]

I like the idea of Torrent, but it simply doesn't work.

Yes, it does.

The protocol is designed to make your download rate roughly proportional to your upload rate; however, when you start a file you have nothing to upload, so it lets you download for a while with no consequences. Shortly afterwards, however, it begins uploading rapidly in order to make up for that. If you were to leave it on for longer than 15 minutes, it probably would've began improving rapidly. Also, if you're behind a firewall, you should forward incoming connections on ports 6881 through 6889 to your computer.

Also, if you have a connection where the upstream is much lower than than the downstream -- such as a typical ADSL or Cable connection -- keep in mind that if your upstream bandwidth is saturated, you won't be able to download anything with any success. If you need to restrict your upstream bandwidth, try this alternate client. I find that a cap of 10 or 15 kB/s is good on a connection with 128kbps upstream.