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USB Swiss Army Knife

finno writes "The Register has a heads-up on a new Swiss Army knife by Victorinox. As the article says, 'Given that you can buy a Victorinox Swiss Army Knive with just about every gadget known to man, from horse-hoof awl to Hubble Space Telescope lens polisher, it's no real surprise that the company - in association with flash memory outfit Swissbit - is now offering cutting tools plus USB flash memory stick.' In my home state of New South Wales, it is illegal to be carrying a knife without a reasonable excuse such as 'the lawful pursuit of the person's occupation'. I got me a reasonable excuse now!"

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  1. A flashdrive that security will take away. by oneiros27 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    For some reason, that just doesn't seem practical in the long run, if you ever have to go through a security checkpoint, such as airports, courthouses, whatever. 'Well, I tried smuggling the data in, but they took it away.' 'They found it?' 'No, they didn't like the knife'.

    But I want to know why the SwissFlame isn't allowed for sale in the US.
    http://www.victorinox.com/newsite/en/news/news_swi ss_flame.htm

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    1. Re:A flashdrive that security will take away. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You can not travel by plane with this. Why?

      Lighters need to be carried on; they can't go in your checked bags.

      Knives, on the other hand, are checked baggage only.

      I was almost going to buy one when I was next in Switzerland, but now I realized I can't take it anywhere. That's depressing.

  2. Remember the Foreman USB Grill? by wumarkus420 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This reminds me of the USB Foreman Grill April Fool's Joke. However, this seems equally useful/useless depending on how you look at it. So, I guess my real question is, how do we know this is for real?

  3. Knife Repository by 4of12 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My Swiss Army Knife is with me constantly because it's so useful. Had it for years. I've lost the toothpick and the spring in the scissors, but it's still indispensible.

    So, with the recent crackdown in the USA on small scale implements of terrorism such as nail clippers, I try to remember to put my knife in the glove compartment before a flight.

    I forgot once. And I sure didn't want to give away my knife. The TSA inspectors must have 10 million pocket knives by now. What to do before getting in line for the security scan?

    I found an fake potted plant in an isolated corner of the airport and hid the knife under some bark chips.

    When I came back 3-4 days later I just picked it up on the way out.

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    1. Re:Knife Repository by ralmeida · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The same happened to me in an airport once. I was in the line for the x-ray scan when I remebered my swiss knife was on my belt pouch. I quickly wrapped all the keys I had around it, and put the belt pouch on the x-ray... it passed!

      After that, my reaction was to scream "hey, you idiots, I just passed with a knife, pay more atention!". But I decided to keep my mouth shut.

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  4. From the picture by jandrese · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Did anybody notice the _other_ tools on this knife. There's the standard blade, good for cutting zip ties, opening boxes, and peeling off stubborn labels in a pinch. Scissors, which are generally useful, and a nail file, which I thought only showed up on the really big knives and the ones aimed at women. Where is the phillips head screwdriver, or even the flathead screwdriver? Actually, some knives have a nice snap on toolset that works quite well. IMHO, if you're going to stick a USB stick on a knife, it should have the following additional tools:
    1. Blade -- Every knife needs one. A combination large and small blade is nice but not necessary on this knife
    2. Scissors -- From cutting down labels to just about anything else, the Scissors are mandatory
    3. Phillips head screwdriver -- Or replace this with the socket set
    4. Flathead screwdriver -- Or replace this with the socket set
    5. Inanimate carbon-steel rod -- In place of the useless tweezers, for ejecting stubborn CDs or rebooting PDAs
    6. Micro-flashlight -- Built into the case, a small white LED bulb at one end is activated by pressing on a certain spot on the handle. The battery is stored in the case. I don't think any knife has this yet, but I know I've wanted it for ages. The light switch should be a toggle, so you don't have to keep holding it down while you're working.
    That's all I'm looking for in a knife. I'd pay $100 for one like that, especially if they called it the Geekman.
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    1. Re:From the picture by wagemonkey · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The tweezers aren't useless, I occasianlly use them for removing wood or metal splinters from my hands (cheap cases), but they are great for fiddling with jumpers on motherboards and hard drives.
      I have the Champion and it's big, so it's mostly in a bag rather than in my pocket but the wood saw has come in very handy on a number of occasions (also for cutting french bread) as have the file, metal saw and chisel. The only thing I can't remember actually using is the hook thing - turns the knife into a handle for lifting stuff by a wire etc.
      I have a leatherman too but Victorinox is my favourite, the only real advantage of the leatherman is the pliers but I find them uncomfortable, and the knife is a bit naff - if you need a decent knife get a locking blade, not the half assed attempt on the L'man.
      I've always fancied a Swiss Tool, or possibly a Gerber but I had my L'man before I knew better.
      I also have a miniature SAK on my keychain, just a few blades/scissors/screwdrivers etc but very handy.

  5. Re:What kind of idiot legislature... by ajs318 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You think that's bad? In the UK, you can't even buy safety razor blades {eg. Gillette sensor type, which can't make a cut more than 1mm. deep without serious modding, the process of which is likely to cut you} if you're under 16, but you can be expelled from school for not shaving!

    Clearly the law was meant to stop kids buying cut-throat razor blades, but it's still a bit idiotic. And if they want knives, they will just steal them.

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  6. Re:Easy way around law for Techs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here in Texas, we can legally carry fixed or folding knives anywhere (with some obvious restricted areas). The blade needs to be under 5 inches in length.
    Hell, we carry concealed pistols here too, if you have a permit.
    There is no permit needed to carry a rifle or shotgun (even if not hunting) as long as it is carried in a "non-threatening manner." But even though it is legal, it is uncommon.
    Not only that, our crime rate is much lower than those places that have tons of dumb-ass restrictions.

    AC

  7. TSA Jackasses by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I really hate the TSA. The ban on nail scissors is ridiculous. Any of my friends that are serious about martial arts could hurt someone much more badly with their hands (or a nice, heavy, blunt object, which *is* acceptable) than a dinky half-inch blade. I'll bet that if I was intent on smuggling a blade in, I could hide a much larger blade in something metal (come *on*...if there's a metal plate normally in some electronic device and someone slices the thing at a diagonal to produce a *big* blade, then puts the halves together, who is going to notice on an X-ray machine?).

    Plus, I forgot about the nail scissors that I carry in my travelling case. It wasn't until the fourth flight that the TSA guy grabbed my scissors. Of all the pointless laws...

    I can understand having to not have guns in carry-on. I can even consider large knives reasonable (You don't need your machete in-flight). However, taking pocket knives/keychain knives/nail scissors is just plain annoying. I'm sure the respective industries have done quite well, though...

  8. Re:Leatherman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Never trust a tech without one.

    I work at an airport you insensitive clod.

    It is a very odd situation for an airline network person that needs tools AND has to fly daily and travel back and forth between the ticket counter and gates.

  9. Re:Get Real Tools by wizard992 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Tools like that are not so much for your day to day repairs. I carry a full toolkit with me when I am on the job, has everything I need and then some. But for those occasions I do not have my kit, a screwdriver on a knife or a quick way to transfer files can be very handy. Meetings where I do not want to carry everything but need to copy some data, a quick repair to something that screws in, etc.

  10. Re:Offtopic by Graff · · Score: 2, Interesting
    You know the author said in New South Wales it was illegal to carry a knife unless you need it for your job.

    My favorite part of that law is the recursive definition they give for what constitutes a knife:
    "knife" includes:
    (a) a knife blade, or

    (b) a razor blade, or

    (c) any other blade,

    Apparently part of the enforcement of the law is to trap anyone trying to understand it into an infinite loop, rendering them incapable of ever using a knife due to their infinite reading of the document...
  11. Re:Leatherman by cybermace5 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Leatherman? Bah. They try to fit too much into it, and all the tools end up being too flimsy.

    I, on the other hand, have been using the same Gerber Multi-plier for about 12 years (yes, I was 12 when I got it). It has blunt nose pliers instead of needle-nose, and all the tools are heavy-duty. For example, the Philips head isn't just a flat sliver, it's the real deal. The pliers actually work well for tighening bolts and nuts, you know, real bolts and nuts like on cars and bikes. And the real feature is the one-handed snap opening. You just fish it out of your pocket, flick your wrist and *snap* you've got pliers. Every Leatherman I've seen requires you to sit down with it and unfold some complicated metal origami, using two hands and paying very close attention because more often than not, the knives will fold out and you'll cut yourself.

    Mine is bead-blasted stainless, and has never rusted...I don't know about the more recent versions. I wouldn't buy a cheap version. If I ever replace it, I might have to go with this: Gerber Multi-Plier 600 DET. I mean, it doesn't have blunt pliers, but how cool is it to have a non-reflective black oxide pocket battlefield tool with such items as "C-4 explosives punch" and "blasting cap crimper"?

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  12. Uncle Buck by GuyFawkes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you're going to carry a knife, carry one that you abso-fucking-lutely KNOW will cut whatever it is you want to cut, in extremis, and not simply break or saw away uselessly....

    I've carried Buck 110's for more years than I care to think about now, it is the only knife I'd be prepared to trust my life to, and it has in fact already almost certainly saved my life on two occassions (both times from drowning) when quite simply there was about 5 seconds to cut something or die.

    Yes, it is now illegal to carry a knife such as a buck in the UK, doubly so when one's sole method of motorised transport is a motorcycle, but it doesn't stop me, because apart from it's every day uses opening packaging and so on, I know one day I will once again REALLY need to cut something and only uncle buck is good enough for me...
    http://www.buckknives.com/

    peace

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  13. Check out your local Goodwill store by mks113 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    You want to buy your knife back? It might end up in the local goodwill store.

    Take a look at These pics of items apparently confiscated in Sacramento.

  14. I have the Victornix... by dwalsh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...and was considering buying a Leatherman.

    Ergonmically the Vic is useless, too wide to be a screw driver, to hard to open the blades. I managed to wreck the wirecutter part, and parts of the pliers are starting to rust.

    I'm not saying you are wrong about the Leatherman, just that I was hoping they were better, and if not, I can save some serious $$$

    (Slashdot eats Euro symbols. Take $$$ and divide by ~1.2 to get what I was really trying to express)
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  15. Re:Leatherman by (trb001) · · Score: 4, Interesting

    All of us in college used it for this purpose...i worked tech support (think rigging lights and speakers, not ethernet) in college for the university union, and we all carried leathermans or schrades (my personal favorite). At the parties after shows, people would yank out their multitools for all sorts of useful stuff...roach clips, shotgunning beers, etc.

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  16. Outlaws by smyle · · Score: 3, Interesting
    In my home state of New South Wales, it is illegal to be carrying a knife without a reasonable excuse such as 'the lawful pursuit of the person's occupation'.

    If knives are outlawed, only outlaws will have knives.

    Have to admit, I hadn't heard about this law before. I carry a Gerber multitool-whatever-they-call-it. It has a knife blade, but more importantly it has a #2 Phillips screwdriver tip, perfect for opening just about every PC case made. I already have my excuse.

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  17. Re:Security Threat of USB Flash Drives by CrankyFool · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I work for a financial services company and that, in fact, is exactly what we've done. Only we went low-tech and disabled USB. Period. Of course, most people don't get floppies or CD drives either (not sure what the point of not giving CD drives is -- it's not like you can somehow hack an RO CD drive to become a CDRW).

    Are you saying there's a way to disable *JUST* USB Mass Storage? Because I'd love to know about that.

  18. Re:Easy way around law for Techs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    How can you carry a rifle or shotgun in a "non-threating manner"?



    I'm not the original poster, but in Texas you just don't point it at anyone. For example, if it is on a shotgun rack in a vehicle or you're carrying it on your back via a sling, or even just carrying it by your side and not waving it around, then it is assumed that you're planning on using it for some legitimate activity (taking it to a shooting range, a gunsmith, etc., or perhaps you need it for your job or just like carrying a rifle).

    Only if it was disassembled in a locked case and the case in a locker at the bottom of a river would I consider something that could make my guts into a fine pate "non-threating".



    Texas is a different culture. Really different. There are numerous legitimate needs for carrying a long arm there (managing wild boar, coyotes, etc.), but even without those needs the only people that think any kind of gun control is reasonable are those in the "big cities" (Austin, Dallas, Houston, etc. and they are in a minority even there).

    Ultimately, it comes down to ignorance, or a lack of it. People who don't know much about firearms (unfortunately, many of these people think they do) like to think of of them in animistic terms, as if the firearm could cause damage by itself (i.e., they forget that they are simply inanimate objects). On the other hand, those who use them on a daily basis (as many Texans do) realize that they are just a tool. Sure, they can be used to kill. But so can the USB Swiss Army Knife.

  19. Re:The philosophers are right. by jfengel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The hijackers on September 11th supposedly used box cutters, cheap little disposable knives. If you tried to stab anybody the blade would snap, but you can cut somebody's throat pretty effectively. But you can do more damage with a SAK than a box cutter, and apparently they were pretty effective with the box cutters.

    So I wouldn't discount what you can do with a SAK on a plane. Things have changed and an attack of this kind again is extremely unlikely. But an attack of a different kind is not just likely but inevitable, and the law enforcement authorities are trying to cut off as many possible avenues of attack as they can. Often stupidly and ineffectively (you can't do any damange with toenail clippers that you can't do with your teeth), but they have good reason to be paranoid of tiny potential weapons.

  20. Re:Leatherman by stephenisu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have to agree with you, I have had a leatherman wave for a while. My roommate showed me his gerber and I almost died of jealousy. Seriously, the Leatherman is a nifty toy, but the Gerber is a piece of engineering mastery. It's the little things that count.

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  21. Yes, but a nail file? (or "why integrate these?" by llauren · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sure is nice with this combination, but a nail file?! I mean, which geek out there regularily needs and uses a nail file? I would much rather have those small pliers to pull jumper tabs with.

    Truth is, my combo of choise is a Swiss army knife, Space Pen (HP schwag), a LED Lenser flash lite and a USB memory fob that plays music. The USB memory will be outdated in about a year and a half and the flash light has already dropped the little rubber thingy on the switch. But i have had that same Swiss army knife for ten years, used it and abused it (and happily pulled little jumper tabs with the small pliers) and i won't leave home without it. Well, except for the plane.

    • ~llauren