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Baystar Confirms Microsoft Behind SCO Investment

Bruce Perens writes "Business Week has confirmed that Microsoft arranged the Baystar investment in SCO. A managing partner of Baystar says the call wasn't from Gates or Ballmer. But it wouldn't have to be, would it? Obviously, there's more investigation to do." Reader skreuzer writes "Yahoo Finance is reporting that SCO announced that the company's board of directors has authorized management, in its discretion, to purchase up to 1.5 million shares of SCO's common stock over the next 24 months. SCO has approximately 14.4 million shares of common stock issued and outstanding. Any repurchased shares will be held as treasury stock and will be available for general corporate purposes." Newsforge (which is also part of OSDN) is also following the story.

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  1. This part is not unusual. by GMontag · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A managing partner of Baystar says the call wasn't from Gates or Ballmer. But it wouldn't have to be, would it?

    Nope, it would not have to be a "tip-top" person, just has to be a Principal or someone with delegated authority from a company officer to be valid. This is not anything uncommon at all.

    Yahoo Finance is reporting that SCO announced that the company's board of directors has authorized management, in its discretion, to purchase up to 1.5 million shares of SCO's common stock over the next 24 months. SCO has approximately 14.4 million shares of common stock issued and outstanding. Any repurchased shares will be held as treasury stock and will be available for general corporate purposes.

    This is nothing new, odd, illegal, unethical or strange either. It is a common business practice of publicly traded firms.

    Now, the underlying story is where the problem sits, not with the scenery.

    1. Re:This part is not unusual. by cmoss · · Score: 5, Interesting

      They say that they are initiating a buyback because the stock is a good value.

      This confilicts with the fact that ALL recent insider trades are sells.(after exercising options)

    2. Re:This part is not unusual. by vinsci · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Yahoo Finance is reporting that SCO announced that the company's board of directors has authorized management, in its discretion, to purchase up to 1.5 million shares of SCO's common stock over the next 24 months. SCO has approximately 14.4 million shares of common stock issued and outstanding. Any repurchased shares will be held as treasury stock and will be available for general corporate purposes.

      This is nothing new, odd, illegal, unethical or strange either. It is a common business practice of publicly traded firms.

      It would certainly be unethical if it's just the Canopy Group's way of transferring money from SCO to Canopy, in exchange for soon-to-be worthless SCOX shares. That's not unlikely, seeing what kind of deals Canopy has done with the companies they own in the past.

      That might even count as inisidertrading, depending on circumstances we can't know about, so chances are it's illegal, too.

      I guess they could defend themselves by saying it's been common knowledge for a long time that SCO is about to go out of bussiness. Of course, then they'd have been lying about their bussiness prospects... Oops!

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    3. Re:This part is not unusual. by k98sven · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not when they're a couple of quarters away from insolvency. Stock buyback usually occurs when a company with low stock price have too much money on hand and no viable avanue of investement available.

      SCO has $50 million from the BayStar deal, with a redemption condition if the stock goes below ~$8.50 for 25 consecutive trading days.

      In light of that, initiating a buyback-scheme when the stock started dipping close to this mark is completely expected. Losing the BayStar investment is a much bigger loss than what it'd cost SCO to keep the stock price inflated.

    4. Re:This part is not unusual. by indigeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is nothing new, odd, illegal, unethical or strange either. It is a common business practice of publicly traded firms.

      I don't know about unethical or illegal, but it is certainly odd. A buyback occours only when the company feels that the share prices are too low. Now if the prices are low now, they certainly were low a few months back at 50 cents or so. What has changed between now and then which causes the values of the company to grow 18 fold? Even if we assume SCO's lawsuit has merit now, we must then assume that it had merit then.Its not as if Linus added code worth 17 times the value of SCO into the kernel in the last year. And SCO certainly must have known either way.
      So either the lawsuit is odd or the buyback is odd

      I would think this is a simple trick to use shareholders money - the company capital - to buymore shares, thus inflating the prices artificially. This would let the "insiders" sell their shares, celebrate a "going bust" party and go off to the Caymans. And then, it would be both unethical and illegal

  2. Where's the incentive to profit? by monstroyer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anyone still denying that FUD isn't an instituted marketing practice of Microsoft, even after being convicted of monopolist practices, can now bow their head in shame.

    Business Week is in no way a Linux Zealot and even they confirm that Microsoft enjoys competing on a level far removed from technical innovation.

    What was to happen at the end of these shenanigans? Once the lawsuit is over, where does SCO expect to get it's money? It's not like Microsoft will continue to invest in them once this crap is over.

    And does this come out of the MS advertising budget? Any advertising against our competitors is good PR? There is no way MS could re-coup anything from this other than FUD points. Where's the incentive to profit?

    1. Re:Where's the incentive to profit? by molarmass192 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Once the lawsuit is over, where does SCO expect to get it's money?

      Dude, SCO doesn't have a long term continuity plan! McBride and his cronies are all set to cash out about this time next year. Once McBride flys the roost he'll probably turn around and sue SCO himself for something like he typically does. The stockholders will be the ones left holding the bag in the end and it's why I still can't understand why SCO isn't a penny-stock.

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    2. Re:Where's the incentive to profit? by dnoyeb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Dude, next year? Everyone but McBride has been selling their shares like nobodies business. The only thing we are waiting on is McBride to sell his. I think he had some restriction on selling, but I believe that is far gone by now.

      SCO is not a penny stock because SCO is a quality marketing (FUD) machine. SCO is not a software company. Once you accept that, their situation makes sense.

      As for the stock holders, the majority of them are institutions at this point. Slight majority though. The stock is so illiquid who could afford to be in it but big players.

    3. Re:Where's the incentive to profit? by njdj · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There is no way MS could re-coup anything from this other than FUD points. Where's the incentive to profit?

      Are you serious? Destroy Linux, and the only current threat to the Microsoft monopoly is gone. Every time a company buys Microsoft instead of installing Linux because of fear of lawsuits, that's more profit for Microsoft. Microsoft had every incentive to fund the SCO lawsuits.

      IANAL, but I'd like to see a lawyer comment on whether Microsoft could be convicted of conspiracy to violate antitrust laws.

  3. CYA time, Mr. Goldfarb by grub · · Score: 5, Interesting


    Mr. Goldfarb is trying to look like an honest man while distancing himself and Baystar from MS and SCO. He readily admits that "senior executives" from MS phoned him but won't name names. He's scared. Leaked documents and an unmanagable conspiracy of silence are forcing him to admit to snippets of truth which paint him and the firm in the best possible light.

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  4. Nail 'em! by Orien · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I hope they finally get nailed on this one. I knew that insider trading would never stick because 1) they sold off a bunch of stock, but the price has only gone up so it wasn't a "sell before it drops" ploy ala Martha Stewart. 2) It was easy enough to say they were low on cash and sold the stock to get equity. Now this whole scandle seems a lot more viable. Let the witch hunt begin!

  5. Guess Who Invests in Baystar? Paul Allen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Paul Allen is an investor of Vulcan Capital, and they invest in Baystar. There's your connection.

  6. Now every time I read about SCO.. by Channard · · Score: 5, Interesting

    .. I get the same 'nefarious ties' feeling that I do reading about one of Scientology's front groups, eg Narconon etc.

  7. 3:56 PM - funny you should mention that... by Chordonblue · · Score: 4, Interesting

    SCO painted their stock with quite a few shares starting at 3:55 PM yesterday. Call up a chart on SCO and look very carefully at the last few minutes. The line continues on it's downward pace then all of a sudden *bang* shoots up a few points.

    THAT my friends is desparation! To explain their obvious fooling around they came up with some sort of stock buyback scheme today hoping that no one will notice their tinkering.

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  8. Behold the next move from SCOX/MSFT by patrixx · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The ability to run Linux without Linux!
    (http://www.sco.com/products/lkp/faq.html)

    Linux Kernel Personality FAQ
    For UnixWare 7

    What is the Linux Kernel Personality?

    The Linux Kernel Personality (LKP) is a feature of the UnixWare 7 operating system which enables the installation and the direct, native execution of Linux(R) applications. The primary attributes of LKP are:
    Exploit the power and scalability of the UnixWare kernel to run Llinux applications. the Linux Kernel Personality contains most of the RPMs required to execute native Linus applications, but it does not include a Linux kernel.
    Applications compatibility: Linux applications install and run without modification. UnixWare 7 customers now have a powerful tool to assist in the migration from Linux to UnixWare.
    UnixWare 7 feature availability: Linux applications can benefit from the features and options available for UnixWare including a journaling file system, RAID support, and increased scalability, security and reliability.
    Versatility: Users can dynamically choose either environment, Linux or UnixWare 7 or mix both, as needed.

    Didn't SCO suspend its Linux product line?

    Yes. The Linux products were suspended due to intellectual property issues associated with Linux. The LkP feature doesn't contain a Linux kernel, and therefore to the best of our knowledge, there should be no infringement issues. If the prior statement were proven inaccurate, SCO would take appropriate steps. In the meantime, the LKP feature is available to assist customer migration from Linux.

    Why is The SCO Group(R) doing this?

    SCO recognizes that many customers want to migrate away from Linux, but can't afford to disrupt their day to day operations, nor can they afford the engineering resources to port and test the Linux applications in a UnixWare environment. The Linux Kernel Personality addresses all of these concerns. Native Linux applications runs unchanged on UnixWare, which provides the following benefits to the customer:
    Customers can asses using UnixWare in their environment without making costly application program changes.
    Customers who want to migrate to UnixWare, but some of the source code for critical applications they need to continue to run is no longer available.
    Customers are considering migration to UnixWare but are concerned about the risk of changing both the operating system and the application at the same time.

    Does LKP emulate a Linux application environment, much like lxrun?

    No, LKP is not a Linux environment emulator. An LKP installation includes the Linux application environment running on a UnixWare kernel. Unlike the LxRun environment, LKP doesn't contain an emulation layer.

    How can I install Linux applications? Do I have all the tools?

    Yes, you can install Linux applications. Linux libraries and system tools, including the rpm installer, the shell utilities, and the configuration files, are provided in UnixWare 7. The UnixWare 7 installation loads the entire (former) Caldera OpenLinux Server system, with the exception of the Linux kernel.

    How is Linux compatibility provided?

    LKP is a standard feature ofUnixWare 7. LKP and the necessary OpenLinux RPMs are part of the basic media kit.

    Do I get a full Linux distribution with UnixWare 7?

    LKP does not provide a Linux kernel. With the exception of the Linux kernel, however, the entire Linux distribution is installed in a /linux directory.

    Is the use of Linux applications transparent?

    Yes. Linux ELF binaries are treated as first class executable programs. The Linux process coexists with other UNIX processes and shares the system equally. You run with Linux shells and desktops and use familiar Linux tools and utilities. The system keeps track of your environment for you, so that Linux and UNIX functions and utilities do not collide.

    How can I access the Linux environment from UnixWare 7?

    Run

  9. SCO *HAS* To Buy Back Stock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It's so nice of SCO Group to announce a buy-back program, but you'll note that these buy-backs do not have to occur on the open market.

    1. SCO Group must buy back shares from certain investors because of their stock price and the looming failure to file the PIPE registration.

    2. This is an excellent way for Canopy to liquidate its holdings in SCO Group.

    The average investor won't make a dime, and will likely be left holding the bag on this one.

  10. Re:Tell the truth, dammit by fishbonez · · Score: 5, Interesting
    "Contrary to the speculation of Eric Raymond, Microsoft did not orchestrate or participate in the BayStar transaction."

    "Microsoft has no direct or indirect financial relationship with BayStar."

    Those two statements are very close to lies but may just be deceptive statements that omit very important facts. I say this because it actually appears that Paul Allen orchestrated the SCO investment. I say this because:

    1. Paul Allen is a former member of the board of directors of MS and the second largest shareholder. Paul Allen now serves as a senior strategy advisor to top Microsoft executives.
    2. Paul Allen is one of the largest investors in BayStar Capital.
    So Paul Allen is in a position to advise and influence both MS and Baystar. He also has significant financial holdings in both companies. There is no tinfoil hat necessary to draw this connection.
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  11. New site logo by gmuslera · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Slashdot News about SCO. Stuff that could matter.

    SCO had done enough merits in slashdot to win its own specific (i.e. no caldera, when they had that name not were so deep in the dark side) logo, section, faq entry, exceptions in slash code and even users-optional tagline pack.

    Even when they lose their lawsuit (that seems less inminent than when all of this started) and the company is closed, buried and sold even the chairs and the pencils of it, still will be for years news about sco and their directors here (i.e. Darl McBride raped in prison, or even die in poverty, from the remember-when-we-roared dept.).

    Anyway, this story is more about Microsoft than about SCO, but well, Microsoft had the merits since the start of Slashdot and if there was nothing done about them yet, maybe never will.

  12. Because They Face No Consequences by MooseByte · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "But why would Microsoft want to back such a chancy scheme? Bad publicity when the case fails must more than make up for the FUD they've managed to spread."

    Because they face no real consequences? They've never had to pay any reasonable penalty for their behavior. Giving away free copies of MS products?!? That's a marketing expense, for cryin' out loud! "Allowing" hardware resellers to add something to the desktop? Oooooh! The pain! Make it stop!

    So what, exactly, does MS have to lose with even such a bizarre scheme as this?

  13. Help me understand... by GreenCrackBaby · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Lawrence Goldfarb, managing partner of BayStar, says that senior executives at the software giant had telephoned him about two months before the investment. Would he be interested in investing in SCO, they asked? Goldfarb wouldn't identify the executives, but says neither Chairman William Gates nor CEO Steve Ballmer were among them. He says Microsoft didn't put any money into BayStar or the SCO investment. A Microsoft spokesman says that the company has no "direct or indirect" financial relations with BayStar, but declined to comment when asked whether execs called BayStar to suggest investing in SCO.


    Help me understand this....

    You manage a fund that has $400 million available for investment. Microsoft does not put any money in your fund. Senior executives from Microsoft call you up and say "Please put $50 million into this company called SCO."

    I'm sorry, but why did the fund's managers do what they did? It doesn't add up. You do not just invest 1/8 of your available capital because some guy calls you up and says, "hey, please do this."
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  14. SCO only allowed to buy employee shares by isn't+my+name · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is a repost from the Yahoo SCOX board. Apparently, there is a clause in the PIPE deal agreement that says SCO cannot buyback shares, but they can buyback employee shares.

    So, unless we are about to see another SEC document modifying the PIPE deal, then this 1.5 million announcement is either BS to prop the stock price or SCO is about to reward a bunch of insiders:

    Restrictions on the A1 Pfd
    by: thwackamole 03/11/04 11:49 am
    Msg: 108276 of 108282

    Going along with a previous poster's comments, it appears (to me) that the indenture on the A1 preferred stock prohibits them from buying back shares in excess of those issued for employee stock options.

    Otherwise they could ship all of BayStar's money to Canopy.

    So this buyback is basically a non-event.

    So long as any shares of Series A-1 Preferred Stock are outstanding, the Corporation shall not take any of the following corporate actions (whether by merger, consolidation or otherwise) without first obtaining the approval (by vote or written consent, as provided by the DGCL) of the Majority Holders:

    (v) redeem, repurchase or otherwise acquire, or declare or pay any cash dividend or distribution on, any Junior Securities. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the Corporation shall, without the prior approval of the Majority Holders, be entitled to repurchase Junior Securities from employees of the Corporation in connection with employee compensation plans approved by the
    Corporation's Board of Directors;

  15. Re:Tell the truth, dammit by Elektroschock · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As far as I know is Microsoft obliged not to enter the UNIX market due to earlier agreements. The downward spiral of SCo may affect Microsoft as well. When Sco's management would go to jail because of license fraud it will probably affect Microsoft managers too.

    Scosource Gregory Blepp (hired from SuSe) was many times very close to break the injunctions on the German market. If SCO tried to sell licenses or spread FUD at CeBIT, Hanover the rapid response would be to report the offence to the police and let them put the managers in jail.

  16. Re:Tell the truth, dammit by cyanics · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Lets pose a hypothetical situation:

    SCO starts wins over IBM, Linux becomes illegal.

    Microsoft, who is now apparently backing SCO, aquires SCO in a take-over. Microsoft now owns the rights to UNIX and a significant portion of Linux.

    How can it be a monopoly, if there is no competition?

  17. Re:Tell the truth, dammit by SillySlashdotName · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, if a Microsoft representative called Baystar from his private phone during a holiday, then it was technically not Microsoft who orchestated this.

    Wrong. If an employee, in the preformance of assigned duties or at the direction of their employer - or even just with the knowledge of the employer, or if the employer SHOULD HAVE KNOWN - performs an illegal act, the company is responsible. In addition, the company does not lose their liability if the employee is told to wait until a non-working day and use a phone other than their office phone.

    If the employee, on their own, with no knowledge or approval, or expectation of approval of their employer did whatever evil and nefarious act, then the employer is not responsible or liable.

    In this case, if a person identified themselves as a Microsoft representative to BayStar and in some way gave BayStar the idea that Microsoft was interested in BayStar doing a deal with TSG, and BayStar, acting on the belief that it was in fact a Microsoft representative and a Microsoft request, entered in to the deal with TSG, then Microsoft IS technically "orchestrating this."

    I wonder if Microsoft could be sued at all for unfair competition if Bill Gates chose to openly fund SCO shares from his private money?

    Interesting thought. The answer is "No, to a point."

    If B.G. buys stock on the open market, he is buying from some other individual that owned the stock. D.McB. might like that - especially if he is buying the stock from D.McB. - but TSG (the company) would derive no benefit from the transactions.

    Up to a certain point he doesn't even have to declare his stock ownership (I believe it is around 5% of outstanding shares) - and it would take a much larger number of shares to actually be able to manipulate the actions of the company.

    The BayStar transactions, on the other hand, directly funded the further operations of TSG - including the attacks on Linux (and Linus) which seen to be in line with (and possible intended to further?) Microsofts' interests.

    Remember that there are things that a free marke company CAN do that a MONOPOLIST CAN'T do. This would seem, in my opinion, to be one of those things...

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  18. This makes no sense... by EmagGeek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A company that invests in life sciences pouring fully one EIGHTH of their total managed fund into a FLOUNDERING software company?

    That makes NO sense... after all, when SCO dies, so do those 50 million clams...

    Unless....

    There were some back door agreement that indemnifies BayStar against total loss of that capital... say, for example, another memo were leaked that blew the whistle on such an agreement between them and a certain Redmond corporation..