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Dish Network & Viacom Settle Their Differences
weshart writes "I haven't yet seen anyone mention the fact that CBS and other Viacom channels are back on DishNetwork. They've been unavailable for the past day and a half, as was reported earlier. No word on the details of the agreement; and the DishNetwork announcement doesn't say anything about whether or not they'll be raising their rates."
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I was worried I might miss some groundbreaking television like yet another reality show.
I'm a Dish Network customer, and while I'm disappointed that I could lose Comedy Central, I know where to place my anger. Dish Network seems to be the only provider that goes to any effort at all to keep rates down. Viacom is trying to frustrate that goal by forcing Echostar to add yet another damn channel (Nicktoons) and raise provider rates on channels that are already one-third (or more, counting overnight "paid programming") commercials. Those costs don't get paid by cable/satellite providers - they're paid by customers who get the costs passed on to them.
Here's a few things we do know about the deal:
- One of the reported sources of conflict was Viacom's demand that Dish add the new Nicktoons network into their lowest base package, America's top 60. That didn't happen. Instead, the network will be added to one of Dish's more obscure packages, America's Top 180.
- The three notable Viacom-owned networks that weren't deleted from Dish Network, namely TV Land, SpikeTV and CMT had contracts that expired at a different time, and Viacom wanted those three networks to be tied to expire at the same time as the rest of Viacom's channels. Apparently, those three networks have had their contracts extended as part of this deal. No official statement on when they now expire, but I think we can all assume the next time things expire, everything will all expire together.
- Echostar had a pretty good anti-trust lawsuit working against claiming that the tactic of withholding the popular networks to force the purchase of unpopular networks is illegal because it's using a monopoly product (copyrighted content) to force the purchase of another product. If Echostar had won, this would send a shockwave through the industry because every content provider does this to every signal distributor. However, we'll never know the result of this suit because this deal agrees to dismiss all pending litigation between both companies.
- Every Dish Network Subscriber will recieve a $1 credit on their next bill, and those who also subscribe to a locals package that lost their CBS station will get a second $1 credit on their next bill as well. These will not be pro-rated down to pennies because the outage only lasted 36 hours. In addition, all Dish Network subscribers will get a coupon for a free pay per view movie, which is worth $3.99. The cash credits will cost the company at least $15 million, and allowing for the fact that some of the coupons will be unused the PPV movie offer should cost the company about $10-15 million. Ironic, because $25-30 million is about the total price increase Viacom was seeking.
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After a few nights of "Off line - Press Info" on a host of Viacom-owned channels in my lineup, I've realized how little I cared for those channels anyway. I almost never watched VH1 or Nickelodeon or CBS, but I kept them in my channel list on the off chance a decent show popped up.
Now, I think I can safely remove them from my favorites list and reduce the scrolling in the guide between useful channels.
There's nothing like being deprived of something to learn how little you needed it in the first place.
It doesn't hurt to be nice.
I was watching Charlie Ergen's chat show the other night and he explained a lot of things that you don't normally hear explained by a big company, let alone from the CEO. I am actually a bigger fan of Dish now than I was before. I really dig the fact that he comes on the air and takes calls and emails from his customers.
Regarding the packaging of channels, Charlie said that he wishes Dish could do ala carte, but they can't because companies like Viacom won't let them. Viacom (and Disney, and all the rest) explicitly lay out in their contracts with distributors which channels have to be bundled with other specific channels. It's not a matter of Charlie having double standards - he's simply not allowed to break up packages any more than you can.
Now for the next week Dish Network should scroll the message "Thi$ i$ a VIACOM $tation"
You think that the cable tv industry doesn't pull this kind of thing all the time? In order to get the same number of channels that I get with my current DirecTV system, I would have had to pay Comcast cable over $100 a month for their digital package, while DirecTV has more channels at half the price.
If anyone, the blame more likely rests on Viacom who will just assume that all cable/satellite companies should swoon at their feet for the chance to carry MTV and the rest of their garbage.
If you start getting the government involved in regulating something, you're going to end up with problems. Calling for regulation over losing VH1 classics for a day and a half is pretty stupid anyway.
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Yes, you've got it exactly right. I work for a (not-to-be-named-top-tier) cable company. It is simply not possible for us to offer channels on an individual basis because of the media conglomerates, like Viacom, forcing us to offer their channels in all-or-none blocks. The best we can really do is three tiers: (1) basic cable, which is the local networks which are (usually) independently owned, (2) expanded basic, which has those plus the aforementioned blocks from the various conglomerates, and (3) digital, which has the other channels plus all the REALLY crappy ones that we were able to negotiate out of expanded basic, plus various indepdendent networks. It's really quite ridiculous. Every time we renegotiate a deal, there are always a bunch of crap channels that we end up having to add, which nobody watches and which force us to raise rates. Believe me, nobody would like total a la carte programming more than the cable companies--our profits would increase tremendously if we could sell the networks individually, at a reasonable profit, rather than taking a tiny profit on package deal for a dozen crap networks. We've gotten LOTS of feedback over the years--there are MANY customers who would love to pay $40/month for 40 individually selected channels over $100/month for 200 forced channels. And we would turn a much higher profit in the $40/month case. But it's simply not possible, due to precisely the reason you mentioned.