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Stop! Website Thief!

Rick Zeman writes "We've all heard of people grabbing an image from this web site, ideas from that web site, or some content from yet another web site. But what do you do when someone takes your entire web site and hosts it in a foreign country? Silicon.com has an article that tells the tale of two such web sites."

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  1. Easy by netfool · · Score: 5, Funny
    Easy:

    1) Submit story to silicon.com
    2) Submit story to slashdot.org
    3) Imagine what Car or Car's server looks like as it catches fire do to the /.ing.

    4) ....then, get back to work.

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  2. Flattered or angry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wrote a biography of a famous historic figure, and I placed it in my web site, devoted to this figure. I put a copyright on the site. Since then, I've seen it all over the place, including online encyclopedias. Don't know whether to be flattered or angry.

  3. It's slashdotted by utahjazz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Could someone post a mirror please?

  4. This happened to by TerminalInsanity · · Score: 5, Funny

    this happened to a website i had, but the idiots that ripped the site forgot to copy the stylesheet and left it linked to ours, so the next day their site was pink and purple, and a home for gay pride

    1. Re:This happened to by wheany · · Score: 5, Funny

      I did something similar. Someone embedded picture of me from my website in their post on a forum while making fun of me. I changed my .htaccess to redirect all requests for the image that had the forum's domain in their referrer to goatse.

      I don't think the forum moderators were pleased with the guy who made the post...

    2. Re:This happened to by l1gunman · · Score: 5, Funny

      I liked this response and I pulled it myself...

      I had an item up for auction on eBay. A luser came along and posted the same item and snagged my photo. Not only did he snag the photo - he simply linked to my original storage location on .Mac. When I discovered what he had done, I changed my own link, reshot the photo he was linking to and uploaded again. Subsequent viewers of his auction page were treated to an image of a Port Noteworthy laptop lock beneath a hand holding up the middle finger. I and a few friends got a good chuckle out of that one.

  5. Things you can do by prostoalex · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are very few people in this world who would maliciously copy the Web site for the purpose of mirroring it out of their own pocket. More often than not, it's the pageviews and ad rotation that they're after.

    Proliferation of Google Ads, and similar offerings from FindWhat and MarketBanker allowed a bunch of content-driven Web sites to exist and make money at the same time. At one of the sites I run the click-through ratio on Google Ads (the site's only means of survival) are at about 0.1-0.2% and thus more traffic and more content means more targetted visitors, more pageviews, and with 0.1-0.2% ratio being (you hope) constant, more money.

    So hit them where it hurts. If they earn money through Google, Findwhat or MarketBanker, contact the ad engines. Most of the time it's abuse of the service agreement and abuse of their advertising system. They send the paychecks, and if they tell the guy to shape up or have the account suspended, actions will be taken.

    Contact their ISP or hoster, regardless of the country. Unless both the hoster and site copier are the same people, you can find reasonable understanding there, with hoster giving then the warning to the copier about possible implications.

    Contact his advertisers. If you see lots of Amazon referral links, contact Amazon Associates support with the problem description. I never heard Amazon actually doing something about it, but the pressure from several points on the copier might enhance your chances of him giving up.

  6. Re:first post. by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's a word for that: Macromediocrity

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  7. This stuff annoys the hell out of me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    These people rip these sites, pass them off as their own - even put them on their CV, and get the jobs the true talent deserve. They need stringing up.

    For instance :-
    www.nevermindus.com vs
    www.digitalabstracts.com

    There is a great selection of these on Pirated Sites

  8. Re:Hypocrites by nycsubway · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Theres a big difference between using IP from a source for your own benefit, but its another thing to use that IP to make money for yourself. Neither of which are particularly good.

    If you listen music you downloaded from the internet for free, its not the same as copying a CD and selling it with a copied cover.

    I'm not saying that copying music for your own use is a good thing to do, but its not nearly as bad as selling something that you've copied as your own.

  9. Re:Hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Typical /. hypocrisy. When you misappropriate IP in the form of music, movies, and software, you say it's not "theft"

    I do.

    but when someone does the same to your website, you call them thieves, and get all up at arms about it...

    I don't.

    You seem to be under the impression that everybody who reads Slashdot thinks the same way, and that you are the lone voice of reason. That simply isn't true.

    The reason this isn't hypocrisy is that the same people aren't alternating between the two viewpoints. Different people are responsible for the different viewpoints.

  10. Re:/. the bastards! by jargoone · · Score: 5, Informative
    Someone needs to do a
    man wget
    Pay special attention to the section on the
    -r
    option.
  11. Fighting back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I used to love seeing people do this with images on Ebay. One guy was selling some computer equipment and linked to a picture on another guy's site. When the site owner found out, he replaced the picture with one showing the equip all smashed and ruined. It was funny as hell.

  12. Re:/. the bastards! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I did that once, the guy stole graphics and content from my site, so I just linked it to his site. it took 2 weeks and the bandwidth bill killed his site. It was very effective since he was unresponsive to the first mail from me, asking him to cut it out.

  13. Re:/. the bastards - with apache bench! by nosphalot · · Score: 5, Informative
    I much prefer to use apache benchmark tool for this sort of thing. Not only can you tell it how many times to get a url, you can tell it how many connections to use while doing it.

    Should be installed under your apache bin directory as 'ab'. I recommend the following if you have a decent pipe:

    /usr/local/apache/bin/ab -n 10000 -c 32 -t 10 -k 'http://www.carorcar.com/gifs/race/gp-start-1.jpg'
  14. Contacting the copycat by MobyDisk · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the article (my emphasis added):
    Understandably O'Donoghue was upset and tried to get in touch with the site's owners. "We emailed them via the contact page, which was the same as our own, and heard nothing back," he said.

    Hmmmmm.... They emailed themselves to complain about the copy, eh? And heard nothing back? Well now, that makes sense.

    From: webmaster@carenthusiast.com
    To: webmaster@carenthusiast.com
    Subject: You stole my site!

    Give it back!
    -------
    From: webmaster@carenthusiast.com
    To: webmaster@carenthusiast.com
    Subject: Re: You stole my site!

    > Give it back!

    You dummy, I'm you. Email them!
  15. Then make sure you add -D by tepples · · Score: 5, Informative

    Add -D carorcar.com to keep hits to the ad page from getting through.

  16. Re:/. the bastards! by stry_cat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Ad Revenues are based off click-through rates, not page impressions. As long as you don't click the ads, it's fine.
    Not always true any more. I have been telling my clients to charge per page impression. Newspapers, magazines, and other print publications base their ad rates on the number of copies distributed. Charging per page impression is much more consistant with this method. The per click method doesn't take into account TOMA (top of mind awarness) or even harder to measure advertising concepts.
  17. Re:You do nothing. by Greedo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You may be in luck if the company uses a domain with a TLD mandated by ICANN (COM, NET, ORG, BIZ, INFO, etc.).

    With the new WDRP (Whois Data Reminder Policy) from ICANN, domain registrars are obligated to make sure their customers provide valid whois data for their domains. If they don't the domain can be pulled.

    As for carorcar.com, the whois data shows an owner in China, but with a US country code and zipcode (I think), and a phone number (+01.3212353319) in Brevard County, Florida. Heck, I can even see it's listed with a R. Young in Orlando.

    If you can convince their registrar that this is bogus, he might get the domain shut down.

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