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Game Over CG Sitcom Debuts, Censored, Gets Machinima

Thanks to GamePro for its interview with the creator of UPN's new CG videogame-related sitcom, Game Over, which debuted last night. The interview notes: "For gamers, it's great to see in-jokes and cameos - like when the entire cast of Oddworld shows up in the first episode. But is prime time ready for a gaming 'toon?" Even before debuting, "Game Over has fallen prey to network censors", with dialog and risque CG nudity cut, and reaction to the show is mixed, but to promote it, UPN is giving away an interactive PC game/machinima download in conjunction with Fountainhead Entertainment, so "players are able to use ['Game Over' character Raquel] in interactive and non-interactive ways by employing Machinimation tools" - the download is available via FilePlanet. Update: 03/12 04:10 GMT by S : Reuters are reporting disappointing ratings for the debut episode.

71 comments

  1. Reviews? by Jerf · · Score: 1

    Reviews?

    I'll admit it. I was too skeptical to tape it. But I'm open minded.

    1. Re:Reviews? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Not bad, could be better. Worth catching the replay on Friday if you missed it the first time.

    2. Re:Reviews? by DLWormwood · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The writing needs to be tightend up... or loosened up. They are trying to be both an "Excel Saga" type show while trying to stay "grounded" in the standard "family sitcom" format... These are mutually opposing goals, leading to a wishy-washy feeling to the show.

      They should either let loose and shoot for getting cult status at the risk of losing mainstream ratings... (think Police Squad!) Or they can tighten up the premise in the hopes that it can last long term but risk alienating their original intended audience. (e.g. The Simpsons in recent years)

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    3. Re:Reviews? by WorkEmail · · Score: 1

      Sorry for that being a bit off topic. I thought that since it was still regarding Televised gaming stuff it would be ok. My apologies.

    4. Re:Reviews? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about apologizing for being a PC fanboy?

    5. Re:Reviews? by StocDred · · Score: 1

      You know, you were probably okay until you decided to go into your "most powerful platforms" bit, which you tried to present as fact yet was filled with opinion and half-truths. Good luck in the future.

    6. Re:Reviews? by WorkEmail · · Score: 1
      Well, the PC is the most customizable, upgradable, and has the most potential for online speeds, graphics, different controler options, customizable controls, faster patching of games, more games available, games stay around longer, more online players, more servers, faster servers, bigger online communities for each game, etc.

      Consoles have their place, and I love and respect them, but they just cannot compete with the gaming power that a PC is capable of.

    7. Re:Reviews? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Riiiight.. you really need to stop learning everything from word of mouth, and maybe try.. oh, I dunno.. actually PLAYING some PS2 and GameCube games.

      XBox is nothing but a specialized, dedicated PC. (which, btw, now has "ancient hardware" as well, which, by your 'logic', means "it can't do much")

      The PC's "power", in regards to gaming, mostly depends on the developers' skill and/or willingness to develop their game(s) to utilize that power. The recent bunch of games all seem to have been written for consoles, then had a last-minute patch applied to allow PC support.

      This is primarily because, unlike the "so much better PC," when programming a game to run on a console, the developers only have to account for one hardware configuration. That's alot easier to port from console to console, too, because those other consoles ALSO have a single hardware configuration. Not like the PC world, where it isn't likely that every player is gonna have exactly the same set-up, which introduces a myriad of variables into the equation.

      "The Gamecube has optional online attatchment and from what I am aware of no online games as of yet. Decent graphics, but really poor hardware inside and aimed at an audience of about 8 years old."

      Again.. try actually USING a GameCube, rather than just reading and believing cynical hype spouted by players who, like yourself, haven't actually bothered to play with the thing. GC has anything BUT "poor hardware" inside (try doing some research, bunky). It has fantastic graphics (dependent, of course, on the game(s) and/or developer(s) involved), and games that run the entire gamut of genres. Do you really thing games like Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil, Dead to Rights, etc are for 8-year-olds? Nintendo's "kiddy-friendly" image died years ago. Most notably on N64, with Goldeney, Perfect Dark and Conker's Bad Fur Day (yes, Conker. Try it. He ain't no cutesy squirrel. The recreation of a scene from 'Saving Private Ryan' is particularly...fun.)

      "PS2 - Not readily available at it's launch, so/so online service plagued by cheating, different monthly charges for each game, lack of online titles, and porr graphics, alsoit allows people on dial up connections to play which means major L-A-G. So when I connect with my high speed it is frustrating to be in the same room playing with some guy who is using his 500 free hours of NetZero dial up. lol."

      Yes. Um. Hello? EVERY online game is "plagued with cheating". PS2, XBox, PC. ALL of them. Someone else playing on dial-up has exactly -zero- to with YOUR ping time. It can (and does) severely impact THEIR play experience. If YOU are experiencing lag, it isn't THEIR fault. THEIR connection isn't going to slow down the entire game server. Duh. If this means you don't like playing with people who routinely stop moving in the game, then I applaud you for being one of the few who don't exploit that opportunity to get a free frag.

      "The Xbox - Even though the PS2 has online service, this console truly brought online gaming to the television set and controller with Xbox Live. It has tons of subscribers, one low fee for all of their Live games (50 dollars a year), and great voice communication through the Xbox Live communicator Headset featuring many different audio channels and even a friends list, etc."

      Um..yeah. Do you work for Microsoft? Yeesh.

      As for the G4TV thing: no. That would be a video game telemagazine show. "Game Over" is a sitcom, based on the premise of "What happens with the characters when you turn off your game?"

    8. Re:Reviews? by WorkEmail · · Score: 1
      Sheesh. So I ranted a little bit. I do admit to having a biased opinion due to great experiences with the Xbox and the PC. I do own a Gamecube and a PS2. I will admit to not playing the gamecube hardly at all. I bought and tried Super Smash Brothers Melee, Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2, MP series, Resident Evil, etc. Just don't like it. Don't like the controller, or the games, or the lack of good Online with it. I am a hard core shooter junky, and my reviews of things tend to show my bias towards online shooters as being the "best" games to play. I know they don't suit every gamer and some people take great joy in the one player world.

      I know every game is plagued with cheating, but after the absolutely horrid reports of the invisibility cheat for SOCOM I was kind of skeptical about the PS2's ability to deliver solid online performance. I also am huge into graphics, they are a HUGE part of a game for me. I crave graphics, and online play in shooters. So the Xbox and PC are obviously my platforms of choice. Sorry if my post seemed really biased, just the honest rant of a bored-at-work gamer. :)

    9. Re:Reviews? by Reeltime · · Score: 1
      I've posted a detailed review/editorial on the show, explaining where I think it fails the gamer audience and how I think it might be saved:

      Why not call it Game On?

      With so many rich areas to mine, this could be a kick-ass show. But they have a long way to go, if the pilot is any indication.

      I have some experience with TV writing, so I do know a thing or two. I hope the show succeeds, because there is some good stuff there. Unfortunately, the not-so-good and downright crappy parts tend to overwhelm. I had to watch the pilot episode twice before I started to appreciate it and see its potential. Most gamers won't bother.
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  2. Pics? by Gr33nNight · · Score: 4, Funny

    risque CG nudity cut..

    Got pics?

    1. Re:Pics? by MurphyZero · · Score: 1

      From what I remember, at least on my UPN station, that nudity was NOT cut. It's not much nudity in the first place.

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  3. UPN... by Thedalek · · Score: 1

    There are times that I forget such a network exists.

    Honestly, I'm aware that there is such a network, but I keep forgetting where it is on my campus cable setup...

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    1. Re:UPN... by Otter · · Score: 1
      If The Parkers had a white cast, it'd be up for a Best Comedy Emmy every year. (And lose to some unfunny, pretentious Murphy Brown-ish garabge, but what can you do?)

      Plus Smackdown! Or is it RAW? Anyway, one of them is on UPN.

    2. Re:UPN... by Flunitrazepam · · Score: 0, Troll

      Are you saying the reason it sucks is because it has negro actors? You racist hatemonger!

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    3. Re:UPN... by Deflagro · · Score: 1

      I don't see why this is a Troll. Minorities can be racist. I think the parent to this was an ignorant statement. Now imagine if we had a white guy doing a show like Chapelle's Show on Comedy Central. That would be the end of Comedy Central for such racist remarks!
      Fucking hypocrites, i'm so tired of all the racial bullshit. We are equal now, get a life.

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  4. Actually by kalidasa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It wasn't as bad as I expected it to be. The characters were pretty good, and the CG was good. I'd give it 2.5 stars out of 4.

    1. Re:Actually by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It wasn't as good as I'd hoped. Certainly not worth moving Enterprise opposite Angel. And why put The Mullets between them? Why oh why do they think the SF/gamer crowd would watch that crap?

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    2. Re:Actually by kalidasa · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Because they're planning on moving Enterprise to Neptunday night? I.e., right off the schedule. Yeah, I know, they're saying they'll renew it, but they put it up not only against Angel, but West Wing. The Slot'o'death.

    3. Re:Actually by MurphyZero · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well Angel's only got a few more shows itself. And its on the WB, so who knows when the next episode will be shown or if it will be shown two weeks in a row.

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    4. Re:Actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hard to be up against Angel, when Angel isn't even on the current schedule. (No ep this week. No ep next week...)

      As for West Wing.. that show's still on?? meh..

  5. Well... by Otter · · Score: 1
    For gamers, it's great to see in-jokes and cameos - like when the entire cast of Oddworld shows up in the first episode. But is prime time ready for a gaming 'toon?"

    Unless "Oddworld" has something to do with that whiny unemployed guy whose website was famous for 15 minutes, it looks like the show will be completely over my head.

    1. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      'Oddworld' was (supposed to be) a series of video games.

      The first was "Abe's Oddysey", followed by "Abe's Exoddus" and "Munch's Oddysey".

      I dunno about "the entire cast".. I only noticed Abe sneaking between two barrels at the toxic-waste dump.

  6. I saw about 8 minutes of this drek... by isaac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Crass, poorly written, pandering to its target audience. In other words, your standard UPN show.

    Fail!

    -Isaac

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    1. Re:I saw about 8 minutes of this drek... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      pandering to its target audience.

      You expect them to pander to some completely unrelated, non-target audience? :)

    2. Re:I saw about 8 minutes of this drek... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stiff, judgemental, unable to comprehend the vid-game jokes. In other words, your standard non-gamer critic.

      Fail!

      -Adam

  7. Yes by irokitt · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, video actually. In WMV format. Here.
    Enjoy.

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    1. Re:Yes by yanos · · Score: 1

      Man, why on earth did they cencored this? You only see a computer generated naked butt for half a second! Come on! Please, don't look at MTV, you'll have a heart attack!

  8. Game-related 'toon by pr00f · · Score: 1

    Anyone else remember the Megaman cartoon? :)

    1. Re:Game-related 'toon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      As revenge for reminding me of that, I summon memories of the Super Mario Bros. Super Show with which to smite thee. Do the Mario!

    2. Re:Game-related 'toon by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

      Arrrgghhh, For that you must watch Simon Belmont from Captain N!

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    3. Re:Game-related 'toon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well excuuuuuse me, Princess!

    4. Re:Game-related 'toon by MMaestro · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Don't forget about the Sonic cartoon and the Captain N show, which managed to rolled all of Nintendo's best characters in one show and mar our memories of them.

      Recently in Japan, video game characters are begining to get their own TV serieses (besides from Pokemon and Digimon being the most obvious). Some of them include a Sonic remake, a series on Star Ocean The Second Story (PS1 game), a Megaman series based on the Megaman/Rockman Battle Network GBA series, and a "sequel" series taking place after the .hack series (both the original TV series and the game series). When it comes to video games, the Japanese love those pixelated/polygon characters.

      (P.S. Did you know they're even doing an online animated Manga/Comic as a prequel story to Metroid/Zero Mission? Look it up, if you understand Japanese)

    5. Re:Game-related 'toon by great+om · · Score: 1

      Swing your arms from side to side...
      something something something ..do the mario:

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  9. Sheesh, why the hell was that Censored by whodunnit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ok,

    Why the hell was an animated ass censored out, yet NYPD Blue can show that fat guy's ass all day long and no one complains?

    I really hate censorship of all kinds.

    1. Re:Sheesh, why the hell was that Censored by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 1
      NYPD Blue can show that fat guy's ass all day long and no one complains?

      Actually, a lot of people complained.
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  10. The show has a catch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can only watch it for 6 months, then you have to upgrade your TV.

    But I hear the show will look twice as good every 1.8 years.

  11. Well there can be only one reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    and it's actually a pretty brutal insult.

    It's puritanical beliefs. The body is dirty, not because of hygene or doughnuts, but because people want to "sin". The only difference between the two has got to be that Denis Franz is not sexual in anyway. Nobody, and I mean nobody, not even on the internet, wants to see what he's got going on. In fact he's so not sexual, his naked ass is less sexual than something that doesn't even exist on paper let in a more nubile tactile form. In short the people who would want to have sex with a cartoon vastly out numbers those who'd want to have sex with Denis Franz.

  12. Not bad, give it a few weeks. by MalachiConstant · · Score: 5, Informative
    I'd never heard of this show til I saw an ad for it right before it came on. I don't watch much TV, but it looked like it might be decent, so I watched it.

    Overall it feels like it was well written, then attacked by a commitee of executives. There are moments that are really funny and well animated, but there are clunkers, too. The fact that there ARE actually good jokes and references give me hope that it could become a good show if it gets time to mature. Seinfeld, and even the Simpsons didn't find their stride until a few seasons in, I'd like to see this show get that same chance.

    A few game references I spotted:

    -A guy comes out of nowhere and punches the dad while they're at a mall and he says, "What is this, Vice City?"

    -The mom is an obvious Lara Croft wannabe, always raiding tombs looking for sacred artifacts to decorate her home with, she even has the dual pistols. Her daughter starts picketing outside the tombs for desecrating them.

    -A sort of old, fat, and bitter Sonic knockoff named Turbo who they adopt as a pet and who encourages the kids to smoke and rob stores

    -The oddworld cast, of course, (we even see Abe do his "sneak-by" move), which attacks Turbo at the end. They even got the names for a few of them right;

    -The son skates through the mall, grinding on escaltors just like Tony Hawk games.

    As another poster mentioned they seem to be flipping between standard sitcom stuff (the dad has to take his daughter to buy her first bra) and video-game-characters-as-a-family humor (their neighbors are kung-fu fighters who are constantly fighting off ninjas that are attacking their house). They need to find their balance between these. Some of the jokes are less than hilarious (the father brings all the manly stuff he can carry when they go to the ligere (sp?) shop), but there's some really funny stuff like when the daughters yelling over the cell phone wakes up the monsters the mom is trying to creep by, and the dad can't figure out how to drive the moms high-tech minivan ("Don't you drive a car for a living, dad?" "Shut up!").

    The animation can be a little weak at times, but I can forgive that on a weekly show. I even saw a texturing problem when the mom was fighting the big rock monster at the end. The Turbo character annoys me for some reason.

    Overall I'm willing to watch the show to see if they can iron out these problems. There's lots of good stuff they could do, there's always new games coming out. Think if Penny Arcade-style humor was made into a show, like this recent comic.

    1. Re:Not bad, give it a few weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Penny Arcade as a TV show?

      Man, you'd have to print out a reel of text the size of a phone book, read it first, then watch the show.

    2. Re:Not bad, give it a few weeks. by Allison+Geode · · Score: 1

      regarding the references, the guy who punches the father at the mall is a character from "state of emergency" whose name eludes me at the moment... So no, it WOULDN'T be Vice City, it would be "Capital City." (groan.)

    3. Re:Not bad, give it a few weeks. by RexHowland · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I even saw a texturing problem when the mom was fighting the big rock monster at the end.

      I noticed that texturing problem, too, but I think it may have been intentional. That's what my suspension of disbelief led me to believe, anyway.

      The monster was so low-poly compared to everything else that it would either have to be intentional, or extremely unprofessional.

      It did look cheesy, but I think (and hope) that it was meant to be like that. Since it was in her in-game world, I think the big scary low-poly rock monster was just for dramatic effect.

    4. Re:Not bad, give it a few weeks. by British · · Score: 1

      The problem was, most of the jokes fell flat. Much of its content was just the usual bickering within a dysfunctional family.

      The only thing I found funny was the Tommy Vicetti look-alike that randomly punched out the father in the mall.

      I was hoping for more video game-esque jokes in it. For example, when the kid was going down the escalator(rail grinding), I would have had a cheesy balance-o-meter hover over him for the full Tony Hawk joke effect.

      There was also a cameo by Crash bandicoot on the "got milk?" ad.

      The Turbo character was disapointing. He's like a second-rate bender with his lie,cheat and steal ways.

      The whole episode contained less humor than the "What if video games were real?" episode of Futurama, or the "real life GTA" on Dave Chapelle's show.

      There's tons of video game related humor on the net(from Red vs Blue to Homestar Runner) and it beat Game Over by a long shot. UPN needs to hire THOSE guys as writers, and leave the mainstream comedy dialog out.

    5. Re:Not bad, give it a few weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The pet shop struck me as being full of either Pokemon, Digimon or Tamagachi/Virtual Pets. At least on of the VP's I had, had the potential to turn good or bad, depending on how he was 'raised'. Seems to me, that's what Turbo is supposed to be.

      And thanks for pointing out where the rest of "the entire cast" of Oddworld was.. I haven't played any of those games, so I only noticed Abe. I was trying to figure out who/what those creatures were supposed to be. :)

      I didn't even think about Tony Hawk in the mall! lol..

      The guy who punched out the dad looked distinctly like someone out of Vice City. He reminded me of Tommy (Hawaiian shirt and all) with a mustache. Did you notice that he had a lower poly-count, too? ;)

      I hadn't even noticed the low polys in the rock monster, though. But yeah, I'd imagine that (and whatever the texturing error was) were jabs at Tomb Raider's many criticisms.

    6. Re:Not bad, give it a few weeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You said: "I even saw a texturing problem when the mom was fighting the big rock monster at the end."

      I say: Give me a break, what you saw as a problem, I saw as a cute nod to older video games. The show is very polished, the primative textures on the 'lava monster' were supposed to look that way.

      Your other observations are very good, BTW

      HipOldGuy

    7. Re:Not bad, give it a few weeks. by MalachiConstant · · Score: 1
      I agree with all your points. I'm no fan of the show (unless they manage to get a whole lot better), but I'm reminded of the Troy McClure hosted Simpsons flashback epidode. They showed one of the original pieces from the Tracy Ullman show where Bart pontificates about the nature of reality or something and cut back to Troy with a strained smile on his face saying "Ha ha! They haven't changed a bit, have they?"

      There's a hint of cleverness in the show which is more than you see in most sitcoms.

  13. I saw 3 words of this reply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And learned as much as I needed to know...

  14. Don't bother. by Adrian+De+Leon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it is any good, they will cancel it, and it if sucks, it will stay on the air for years.

    Either way, we are screwed.

    (Yeah, I am still bitter about FireFly, Farscape, Angel, etc...)

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    1. Re:Don't bother. by Q-Mont · · Score: 1

      That seems to be the case with shows that are really good. For example, The Critic, Futurama, and Family Guy (but that's coming back, I hear). I haven't seen this show yet, but i might not, I'd have to find out what channel UPN is in my town. Believe it or not I haven't really come up with a reason to find UPN.

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  15. Wasn't censored for me, either... by bluemeep · · Score: 1

    There might have been a slight blur over it, but for all I know it could have been my TV. My reception isn't exactly what one would call "quality." (For reference, this was UPN 20 out of Washington DC.)

  16. I smell a hit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any show I watch regularly gets canceled. Fact: Network executives are invertebrates. I watched this fell asleep before it was half over. Therefore, I must conclude it will blow up and rise to become a new icon of American culture.

    1. Re:I smell a hit. by Adrian+De+Leon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Any show I watch regularly gets canceled.

      So it is you? Stop watching the shows I like!! ;-)

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    2. Re:I smell a hit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It works like so. If I watch 4 weeks in a row, the show appears in publications along side statements about declining viewership and dire predictions. A few more weeks and they might temporaily bump it from the line up during sweeps, or for some random promotion. If I watch a whole season, or nearly so, it will die (this is in fact what killed Farscape).

      I'm thinking about killing Las Vegas, but I can't bring myself to watch it.

  17. Re:Angel by Kris_J · · Score: 1

    We're only up to the "Lorne's Sleep" episode here in Australia. Does it get any better?

  18. Re:Angel by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 1

    I don't know the episode titles, but Spike joins the show in this current season and really livens things up. I'm going to miss it when it goes.

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  19. What the? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just downloaded the clip from GamePro and it looks really neat.

    And it has The Tick in it.

    Now, BRING IT TO NEW ZEALAND!

  20. BitTorrent Link by RexHowland · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't want to support TV piracy, but if somebody missed the show and wants to see it, you can find it here or here. (File is approximately 172MB.)

  21. Poor ratings - no surprise by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Interesting
    They put this opposite Smallville (at least in my area). As a result the target market is presented with the choice of:
    1. Watching Game Over, then watching the last half of Smallville and wondering what is going on.
    2. Watching Game Over, then watching part of The Mullets, then plucking their eyeballs out with a rusty fork.
    3. Watching Smallville.


    Since UPN will be following the minor networks' habit of repeating shows a few days later to cover up their lack of content (and saying it is for the "convinience" of the viewer) it would be interesting to see if the second showing has better ratings.
    1. Re:Poor ratings - no surprise by v_1matst · · Score: 1

      That's why I have a tivo :)

    2. Re:Poor ratings - no surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why I have DISH Network, with a TiVo-like receiver. :)

      2 or 3 UPN's, 3 (I think) WB's... Life is good. :)

  22. Why not put Reb Vs Blue on late night? by Lebooge · · Score: 1

    That stuff's funny as hell, and if it got a late enough time slot it could easily be a winner on Tech TV or Spike TV or something like that.

    Just don't put it on too late or your prospective audience will be too busy playing HALO to watch.

  23. Looks like it's Game Over... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for Game Over.

  24. It wasn't cut OR blurred by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't remember which UPN I watched it on (I have 2 or three on my DISH Network), but it was intact and clear. *shrug*

    Now that I think about it, though.. it would've been funny if Turbo had a full view of her, and she was covered with a Sims nudity-blur.. :)

  25. Re:Blame the colored folk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With your head that far up your ass, how can you tell what color -anything- is?

    Get a clue, get a life, and get stuffed, you retard.

  26. Re:Angel by demi · · Score: 1

    I like Spike but I think the current season is just awful. I'm buying up the previous seasons of Angel as it comes out on DVD and I love the show but I just think the current season is full of misses. Even Spike didn't really hit his groove until recently, his timing and delivery with the rest of the cast were really weird the first few episodes. The Wolfram and Hart storyline just plain sucks; the way that Gunn's character changes is totally out of left field; getting rid of Cordelia cuts the heart out of the show; and for someone who's really loved the way Wesley's character developed over the years, from a bumbling fop to someone with some serious nads (he was the best thing about the last two seasons) to put him back in the slightly goofy researcher role is just slack.

    There have been a few good things about the new season--the puppet episode was good; Spike is definitely a bonus (now), but so much of the rest of it's been off that I won't be sorry to see it canceled if renewing would have meant another similar season.

    Hopefully Joss is directing his creative energies toward Serenity, the Firefly movie; I admit I can't wait to see it.

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