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Fifteen Teams Selected for DARPA Grand Challenge

doughnuthole writes "The official posting has been made of the 15 teams that qualified for the Grand Challenge, seven of which completed the entire QID course. The top three teams, and thus those who get to start first, were the Red Team, SciAutonics II, and Team Caltech. The race starts at 6:30 am Saturday, with teams leaving every 5 minutes. A live webcast will be available at grandchallenge.org." Reader uss_valiant writes "Tomshardware runs an article about DARPA's Grand Challenge. It features new pictures, the DARPA video of the qualification and covers some technical challenges such as the obstacle detection."

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  1. Streaming Broadcast over the Internet by Doodhwala · · Score: 5, Informative


    For all those of us who don't have access to the DARPA channel, we can stream the telecast live from here.

    These are the same people who appeared in this slashdot story and seems to be different from the "live webcast" mentioned in the story which only appears to have a tracking feature.

    1. Re:Streaming Broadcast over the Internet by uss_valiant · · Score: 5, Informative

      And what about the official 3d tracking (macromedia 3d shockwave app, looks great)?
      It uses about 150 MB RAM and 100% CPU on my celeron 1.4 GHZ...
      According to this 3d map (updated every 30 seconds) the Caltech Bot is running since a 30 minutes or so. But I couldn't observe any movement...
      As a side note: The videos on tomshardware are not exactly the same as those from the official website (very long ones, only the last 2 show vehicles that master the qualification without longer pauses).
      The videos from tomshardware are much shorter, a lot less boring ;) and show the autonomous vehicles going havoc :)

      This is the list of all qualified teams (from the new .pdf):

      1. (22) Red Team - Pittsburgh, PA
      2. (21) SciAutonics II - Thousand Oaks, CA
      3. (05) Team Caltech - Pasadena, CA
      4. (07) Digital Auto Drive (DAD) - Morgan Hill, CA
      5. (25) Virginia Tech - Blacksburg, VA
      6. (23) Axion Racing - Westlake Village, CA
      7. (02) Team CajunBot - Lafayette, LA
      8. (13) Team ENSCO - Falls Church, VA
      9. (04) Team CIMAR - Gainesville, FL and Logan, UT
      10. (10) Palos Verdes High School RoadWarriors - Palos Verdes Estates, CA
      11. (17) SciAutonics I - Thousand Oaks, CA
      12. (20) Team TerraMax - Oshkosh, WI
      13. (15) Team TerraHawk - Gardena, CA
      14. (09) The Golem Group - Santa Monica, CA
      15. (16) The Blue Team - Berkeley, CA

    2. Re:Streaming Broadcast over the Internet by MyFourthAccount · · Score: 4, Informative

      According to this 3d map (updated every 30 seconds) the Caltech Bot is running since a 30 minutes or so

      Hmm, I don't know how you got that information, but their status page indicates that no-one has started, as of yet (5:10am in Barstow). The race is supposed to start at 6:30am, so that would make sense.

      Maybe they had some incorrect data initially. Anyways, this slightly 'lighter' page shows the status.

      btw, P4-2GHz also at 100% / 125MB RAM

    3. Re:Streaming Broadcast over the Internet by pvanheus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Apologies to the CMU broadcast folks, but this has to be about the most boring broadcast that could have been done for this event. Instead of updates on the progress of the teams, they are simply training a camera on the start area, and not saying anything most of the time.

      Meanwhile the status board shows the Red Team and SciAutonics II neck on neck at 7 miles along the course each. Seems Team Caltech isn't doing too well , since they're still stuck on 1 mile from the start. Would love to know the story behind those distances....

      peter

    4. Re:Streaming Broadcast over the Internet by Hanji · · Score: 2, Informative

      Furthermore, even once I jumped through all those hoops, the vide still refused to stream, with quicktime pretending to be playing (said "Ready", and play button was in play mode), but displaying nothing but a QT logo.

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  2. Departure. by cynicalmoose · · Score: 5, Informative

    If a team leaves every 5 minutes, (and assuming the first few hundred yards is relatively easy going - you find that on most courses of any nature), then we are going to have an awful lot of bunching at the first point the vehicles start dropping below 25mph. Interestingly, the rules state that the team in front (i.e. being passed) has right of way, unless E-stopped.

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  3. CNN Story About The Race by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 3, Informative

    CNN is running a story about the DARPA race/challenge, in case anyone is curious.

  4. Re:The race starts at 6:30 am Saturday, by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 4, Informative
    6:30? That means nothing in nowadays world!
    WHAT TIMEZONE???
    Google for Mojave Desert and you'll see the Mojave is in California and Nevada, i.e. PST or MST. Unless of course you think there are more then one Mojave deserts. :-D
  5. Re:waste of time? by Slowtreme · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually I watched a show last night and they Highlighted the Red Team's Vehicle. After watching the show I was given no idication of any other competitors, but they didn't provide any reasons why the Red Team might not finish. Hell, after what I watched I'm wondering if any other teams are really even playing the same game... That is one high priced Hummer.

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  6. For the rest of the world... by Renegade+Lisp · · Score: 4, Informative
    I couldn't find any indication of what time zone they use on the official web site.

    Assuming that "6.30 am" means local time in Barstow, California, that would be 6.30 PST -0800, or 14.30 GMT.

  7. Course length set at 142 miles by Dr_Java · · Score: 4, Informative

    Updated on the live status board A bit short of the original 250miles.

  8. THIS JUST STARTED by malaire · · Score: 3, Informative
    Just to inform everyone who talked about what timezone is meant here - bots are just now starting to go as I write this. Currently 3 bots out.

    Info

  9. Re:Darn CMU robotics people by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 2, Informative

    Word. What's wrong with Video Lan Server or something? Must be NDH syndrome.

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  10. Re:Palos Verdes Road Warriors disabled at start by Mr.+Underhill · · Score: 2, Informative

    They hit that same spot on the car (right front panel) coming right out of the starting gate. Didn't even make it to the first turn.

  11. Re:Palos Verdes Road Warriors disabled at start by Mr.+Underhill · · Score: 4, Informative

    The web guy just said they might retry. So the damage cant be bad.

    Other unoffical updates:
    Sandstorm is out with a blown motor.
    Sci II is supposedly still running.
    Caltech is still running technically but is going nowhere fast. Its not stuck or anything tho.
    Dad is running.
    #25 has a stuck brake.
    #23 has GPS problems but they may restart.
    Navigator is stuck real bad in a fence. they are cutting it out.
    #15 lost it hydralic pump
    Cajunbot hit a obstacle right out of the gate.
    Ensco hauled ass out of the gate, made its first turn OK but then rolled on the next.

  12. Re:What's happening with team DAD? by swmagazine · · Score: 2, Informative

    The webcast briefly mentioned that there is natural obstacle on course that needs to be removed. However, I believe that once the vehicle is disabled it's out of the race.

  13. Re:cyberrider == conscientious objector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The motorcycle entry was Team Blue - Ghostrider - not CyberRider.
    Cyberrider was the desert racer sand rail:

    www.cyberrider.org

  14. Re:Withdrawn by e2mtt · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think it just fell over, and they withdrew it because they couldn't get it to go across the start line.

  15. Re:WTF: application/x-esm by generic-man · · Score: 2, Informative

    ESM (End System Multicast) is a peer-to-peer system to deliver video of any kind (such as QuickTime) to lots of clients. The idea is to allow people to watch video while acting as both client and server, thus reducing the originator's bandwidth needs.

    A friend of mine works on ESM. It was developed at CMU and has been used for many recent lectures on campus.

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  16. Tracking for Linux by Ephboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Perhaps a pain in the butt to deal with, but a tracking client for Linux is available.

  17. It's over. by Animats · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Golem Group vehicle was just disabled. That's the last one. It's over. SciAutonetics II and Red Team made it to 7 miles. Team DAD made it to mile 6. The Golem Group is listed with 5 miles, but the map never showed them much past the starting line. Nobody else got very far.

  18. not a waste of time at all by rebelcool · · Score: 3, Informative

    I work with autonomous robots in a lab setting. It's difficult enough to get a 2 wheeled robot the size of an RC car that moves 75 cm/sec to navigate its environment reliably. Failure is something you simply have to learn to live with and learn from (many computer scientists have a tough time getting used to the idea that these systems cannot nor ever will work 100% of the time). Honestly, you learn way more from failure than success in this business.

    To get a full sized vehicle working at battlefield speeds with battlefield obstacles is a monumental challenge and almost certainly guaranteed to fail on the first try. Autonomous robotics is still a very young field, and the research published out there is generally some pretty rudimentary stuff done in a lab. Translating that stuff into a big complicated machine in a big complicated environment is a hell of a task and probably demonstrates some substantial holes in the current tech that weren't apparent from the confines of the lab.

    This DARPA challenge does two excellent things for the field: Gives it a real goal and gives it a real deadline. Alot of research doesn't have a deadline and so researchers spend much of their time spinning their wheels (heh) on some of what i would consider, less important issues. This challenge gives a genuine goal to accomplish in a certain amount of time.

    I definiately want to see the post-mortem on each team to see where they failed. In 2 more years, with this failure experience gained, perhaps a quarter of the teams will succeed or at least get further down the course.

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  19. Sandstorm failure reports by Animats · · Score: 2, Informative
    If it really was only a blown engine that's very sad.

    From the wires of the Associated Press:

    • "Initial reports from the field were that the entry went off course and hit a large rock, breaking its axle and stranding the vehicle."