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MS Hotmail Offline For Hours

chalker writes "According to CNN, and others, the Hotmail online e-mail service, operated by Microsoft, was down for most of the working day on Friday, affecting 'a significant portion of MS customers.' People are also having trouble accessing products such as the MSN Messenger instant messaging program. The company said it was an internal problem rather than an attack on its system and that it hoped to have service restored by 5:30 p.m. PST. As of 8:15 PM EST, Hotmail appears to be online again."

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  1. Dammit by Frogbert · · Score: 5, Funny

    And here my girlfriend is blaming that stupid mozilla program. Try explaing that its Microsofts fault to someone who thinks that MS is infallable.

    1. Re:Dammit by EverDense · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hope she's good in bed cause I'd never date someone that clueless unless she could make my
      toes curl, my eyes roll into the back of my head, and jets of steam shoot out of both ears.

      You want her to put you in a microwave?

      That is Kinky!

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    2. Re:Dammit by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny
      So it was you! I missed several important messages from a business associate in Nigera and others for expanding my .. opportunities. Important security update from Microsoft were lost! I'll sue!!!

      Gads, I've had my hotmail account since before Microsoft bought them. It makes a useful account to hand out on Usenet posts, Slashdot or on web pages--I can quickly give any emailer a real address for contact--mainly it's a spamtrap. But I would never ever depend on it for email or cry if it died.

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  2. Thanks, Microsoft! by illuminata · · Score: 5, Funny

    That downtime really blew. I couldn't read my spam.

    Don't let it happen again, Microsoft.

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  3. 3rd party connections by Cliffy03 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I thought they had blocked other programs again. Trillian and Gaim couldn't connect, but I installed MSN 6.1 and got right back on.

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  4. This is news??? Who the fuck cares! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    God, how fucking petty is slashdot getting???

    Sure, hotmail was down, boo-hoo. It's a free email service. Deal with it.

    Why is slashdot determined to report every single trivial detail when it comes to Microsoft? Try to stick with the big stories, please, not "Bill Gates forgets to lift toilet seat!" or "Steve Ballmer takes up two parking spaces in Microsoft parking lot!"

    1. Re:This is news??? Who the fuck cares! by kasperd · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a free email service.

      I'm sure RMS would disagree with you.

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    2. Re:This is news??? Who the fuck cares! by xxx_Birdman_xxx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It might seem petty, but the reality is that there is a huge number of people that use hotmail on a regular basis.. this kind of downage affects a lot of people.

      What is interesting is how:
      - Microsoft responds, their press releases etc.
      - Possible reasons for failure
      - What others can learn from these kind of failures, to prevent them happening.
      - That such a large system that must deal with a massive number of requests has completely gone down instead of the service degrading due to servers failing, etc..

      Lighten up a bit, i'm honestly suprised it would go down for a significant amount of time.

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    3. Re:This is news??? Who the fuck cares! by PacoTaco · · Score: 5, Funny

      RMS is planning to start his own free email service. Supported clients will include Emacs and Netcat.

  5. Well it WAS working until you /.'ed it. by insanegadgets.com · · Score: 5, Funny

    (nt)

  6. Date in the story? by Klerck · · Score: 5, Informative

    Perhaps a date in the story would have been more useful, since "As of 8:15 PM EST" is now just highly misleading. That 8:15PM EST was on Friday, March 12. This story is making it sound like it's been down for days, but in reality it was just a few short hours.

    This story isn't even relevant at this point.

    1. Re:Date in the story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      in reality it was just a few short hours.

      In reality most hours are the same length. Hotmail was down for a few standard-length hours.

  7. Redundancy anyone? by OriginalSpaceMan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That article didn't go into much detail. I don't know what kind of system MS uses to run Hotmail, MSN and other services, but where's the multiple location clustered redundant load balancing system? My only guess is that someone at MS really messed up their own DNS systems, which of course would take it all "down" (by name at least). Does anyone know what actually happened?

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  8. ...and the world collapses by MarkMcLeod · · Score: 5, Funny

    So that's why I couldn't access my inbox full of ads for Penile Enlargement, Hot Sex, and credit cards...

  9. Looks like "Passport" problems by Betabug · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Judging fromt the description that people had problems logging in, but that things work fine once logged in, and OTOH that Messenger had problems too, I would conclude that the problem is with their Passport infrastructure.

    1. Re:Looks like "Passport" problems by sl956 · · Score: 5, Informative
      Bingo!

      Here is today error message for my hotmail account:
      The .NET Passport service is currently unavailable at this Web site for one of these reasons:
      • The site may contain an error or be experiencing a problem that affects the .NET Passport service.
      • The site may not be an official .NET Passport-participating site.
      It was worst on Friday though: there was not even an error message as loginnet.passport.com was either dead or unreachable.
  10. Re:News for nerds? by mstefanus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually many... Nerds use Hotmail for junk email accounts, like when they want to download something that needs registering first but don't want to receive the newsletter junks.

  11. Re:News for nerds? by cioxx · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those things there is Mailinator.

    Throwaway accounts should never be, out of all places, registered on Hotmail.com. They suspend your account if you don't login for 30 days. At least Yahoo!Mail or other free alternatives let you forget the account for few months and not get penalized for it.

  12. i was talking to MS customer support when by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    i just got hung up on, and that was approximatly the same time on friday. i was trying to get an activation code for win xp when i was disconnected from them all together. i waited a while thinking that like all good cutomer support they would call me right back because i was hung up on, but waited half an hour and called them to try to talk to the guy i was dealing with, and they told me that they were having serious internal problems. im not sure how it works, but i think MS might use some kind of internal VOIP system because there was a delay in speech with th guy i was talking to as well, but hotmail and their tech support both went down around the same time as i was informed of "major internal problems." so something big happened.

  13. This is why everyone should subscribe to /. ... by oasisbob · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...Hotmail goes down on Friday, and you're the first to know on Sunday!

  14. Re:News for nerds? by addbo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is a great account for your junk mail! Then again so is Yahoo... but hotmail was the first I believe =)

    It is also my first email account (got it in 96) and so now people can still contact me after I've moved around the world.

    When a service like Hotmail and MSN go down for a few hours it affects ALOT (millions) of people... nerd included... why shouldn't it be on the frontpage? I know I was interested enough to click on the articles (though I agree they are sparse on details)

    Addbo

  15. Considering I got this ... by SmoothTom · · Score: 5, Interesting
    ... trying to get to the Hotmail FAQ at 0125 on Sunday the 14th, I'm not at all convinced "all is well" (or ever was).

    Luckily I don't use Hotmail (or any other Microsoft product).

    bScreen = 'True'; var searchtextsize="21"; var bSkinny = (screen.width<=800); if (bScreen == 'True') searchtextsize=(bSkinny)? 19:25; var cu, cb, br, INI_Encoded, INI, H_APP, H_APP_Encoded, ITSFile, Filter, BrandID; var v1, v2, v3, v4, bShowSearch,t_contactus,Survey ; cu='http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/ua_inf o.asp?pg=ar_eform&_lang=EN'; Survey=''; cb=''; INI_Encoded = 'MSN_Hotmail_PIMv9_FAQ.ini'; INI='MSN_Hotmail_PIMv9_FAQ.ini'; H_APP_Encoded = 'MSN+Hotmail'; H_APP = 'MSN Hotmail'; ITSFile = 'msn%5Fhotmail%5Fpimv9%5FFAQ%2Eits51'; Filter = ''; BrandID = ''; H_VER = '2.6'; bITFind = 'True'; t_contactus="Contact us" v1 = 'http://www.hotmail.msn.com'; v2 = '?&_lang=EN&country=US'; v3 = ''; v4 = 'DH_FREE'; var sTMT = 'MSN_Hotmail_PIMv9_FAQ'; ; bShowSearch = true; NoMax = '0'; var LEVELMAX = 10; var levelNodes = new Array(LEVELMAX); var activeNode, activeIdx = 0, bActiveSet, activeLevel = 0; var XMLTOCLoaded = false; var sHTTP_REFERER = 'http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/ua_info.a sp?&_lang=EN&country=US'; function CULink(ExtURL) { if (navigator.appName.indexOf("TV") >= 0) { if(ExtURL.indexOf("http") == -1) ExtURL = "http://" + ExtURL; parent.location.href = ExtURL; } else { window.open(ExtURL,'_helpext'); } }

    Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a01f4'

    Variable is undefined: 'agent_isSafari'

    E:\WEBROOT\PRODUCTION\HELP\CON TENT\EN_US\..\!shared\frameset.inc/searchfooter.in c, line 27
  16. Can I sue? by Zakabog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can I sue for damages incurred because I couldn't order my penis enlargement pills before my porn audition? Damn you microsoft, you kept me from making millions! Now just give me some money and we'll call it even.

  17. Lets get this straight by AvengerXP · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No "customers" were harmed. The only people who use Hotmail are people who are too poor/lazy to install their own ISP's mail system on their machines.

    And if you base your business on Hotmail, i'd say you have a serious I.T. decisions problem.

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  18. A successful migration? by niittyniemi · · Score: 5, Interesting


    From the MS case study on converting Hotmail from FreeBSD to 2K:

    > Changing the operating system on each server should have
    > zero impact on day-to-day operations.

    No impact whatsoever....if you ignore uptimes :)

    > Under FreeBSD, bugs and memory leaks would often go
    > undetected because of the lack of tools. With Windows 2000
    > and IIS 5, the tools exist to optimize the performance and
    > truly understand exactly what the code is doing at all
    > times.

    Crikey, handy they've got all those tools to help them out (soooo unlike FreeBSD with all it's bug leaks). Looks like it's saved their asses this time round...
    </sarcasm>

    Microsoft: Where do you want go today?

    Customer: I want to take a rock solid service that has true customer value and turn it into a spam ridden, bug infested hole that doesn't work half the time and customers hate.

    Microsoft: Consider it done!

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  19. This is news? by God!+Awful+2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I seem to remember /. was down for a few hours last week... but somehow that story didn't make the front page.

    -a

  20. google news headline by BrianB · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google news has been running the headline:

    "Microsoft restores faulty Hotmail service"

    I thought that said it all.

  21. This was NOT a Hotmail outage (as such) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It was a .NET Passport outage. Even if you have no clue what this is, you almost certainly have one if you have a hotmail email address, or use MSN, or MS Money, MSN messenger, or a million other services. It's even used for RADIUS authentication of MSN dialup users.

    Unlike Hotmail, which still runs primarily on UNIX, Passport is entirely based on Windows servers.

    Passport is the authentication / single sign-on system for all these MSN services. If it's down, everything's down. And sadly it has proven a little unreliable recently, for reasons never disclosed.

  22. Re:Well it just figures by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, MS use UNIX servers for Hotmail

    Ummm... no. You have no idea what you're talking about. If you had said "used" (as in past tense), then you'd at least be close. Still wrong, but close. They used one of the BSD's until people called them on it. Hell, for all we know, they still are and just changed the headers that the server hands out to look like a MS box like the other post in this thread shows.

    Anyway, you're wrong on all accounts.

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