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The State of AI In Games

CowboyRobot writes "Carnegie Mellon researcher Alexander Nareyek has an article at ACM Queue describing how the role of graphics as the leading technology in gaming is being replaced by advancements in artificial intelligence. The author targets some game AI: 'Early milestone demonstrations for the publisher, press presentations, and other hype-generating events do not promote inclusion of a globally/consistently good AI, but instead focus on one or two 'absolutely unexpected but genius outcomes of revolutionary new and complex AI procedures' (did you spot the ironic tone?) that provide the necessary 'wows'.' He concludes by suggesting: 'we need to see more effort to make AI functionality available for the designers/artists.'"

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  1. A.I. by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The biggest advance in artificial intelligence so far came when the reaper bot started saying things like.

    "I destroy you"
    "Cry to your mom. b!cyh"

    etc. I mean that was most humanlike characteristic ever to be properly emulated.

    1. Re:A.I. by FooAtWFU · · Score: 3, Funny

      There's a wonderful little bot I know of by the same guy who made the PieSpy Shakespeare diagrams. It's fairly impressive in its formulation of phrases, and even punctuates fairly well.

      <Monty> Thunderbird's data? I am.
      <Monty> if (thermostat == snot) { colouring magnifies isometric NBDuckBot;}
      <Monty> s/got/go/
      <Monty> mobibot currency 549.99 GBP sounds harder than I suspect it'll work server for lesbian bitch porn empire or what Amy likes the uk
      <Monty> royal post man quacks at under-valued cucumber?

      Pretty good... apparently he uses Markov chaining or something to learn from. He also hangs out on a lot of code-oriented channels.

      Now imagine letting one of these loose on several servers for Counterstrike or something and seeing how well they can impersonate a real (l)user after a while. :)

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    2. Re:A.I. by Flunitrazepam · · Score: 1

      This reminds me of the coolest programming project I ever undertook. It was an irc bot called yacool. I started out coding it so I could be IRC 'LEET but I could never get the send and receive buffers right because I had only taken one c coding class.

      So essentially all the bot would do was connect to irc, log in, and (seemingly at random) dump its recv buffer into a channel, raw irc codes and all. Amazingly enough it worked well enough for people to try to netsex it though.

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  2. AI system from LoTR for mm games? by directrealist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    was reading about the AI that was used for LoTR battle scenes. this would be a helpful tool to get a mm online game going. the startup of one of those huge massively multiplayer games makes it difficult for companys to get a foothold. the ai of the mm game worlds inhabitants has been very poor imo. much worse than a non mm game. I have yet to find AI in any game that did not just make me laugh at some point in time. halo was not half bad but still way off sometimes.

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    1. Re:AI system from LoTR for mm games? by burns210 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, the LoTR AI is cool, but it took many dozens+ of attempts and editing to get anywhere near the battle quality as they did in the movies. It was not uncommon for some groups to run AWAY from battle, due to their programming, rather than join their comrades.

    2. Re:AI system from LoTR for mm games? by zonker · · Score: 0

      yeah, MASSIVE isn't going to run on your p4 unless maybe you are playing checkers, but then it would be pointless wouldn't it?

    3. Re:AI system from LoTR for mm games? by BobTheLawyer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      it may not be possible to adapt it to a real-time system.

    4. Re:AI system from LoTR for mm games? by MrScience · · Score: 3, Funny

      The soldiers started out running away from battle? Sounds like they had to dumb it down for the final release. :P

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    5. Re:AI system from LoTR for mm games? by KaLogain · · Score: 1

      What really happened if you watch all the appendices in the ee, they programmed the ai if it didn't see a enemy in its area, to run in a random direction untill it found an enemy to fight. It just ahppened that some chose backwards as a direction to run.

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    6. Re:AI system from LoTR for mm games? by CFTM · · Score: 1

      Or they could start modeling their AI's after MUD's, the only issue would be scaling. My experience on the mud Arctic (http://mud.arctic.org/ ... we're player wiping soon it's a good chance to try us out!) is that some of the AI is incredibly well done. Granted, it is more or less script based but some of the interaction that occurs can make rooms very, very difficult. From my building experience on arctic, it's not very tough to make a mob act fairly intelligent assuming a good scripting system is there for the foundation.

  3. Nice rebuttal to that "video game crash" article by Pluvius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    David Wong's main point was that the video game industry thrives on novelty, and that said novelty doesn't exist anymore now that we have fairly realistic real-time 3D capabilities. He forgot about the fact that graphics aren't the only novelty that gets gamers' attention. AI is arguably the weakest obvious element of gaming today, so near-future advancements in it would probably be as impressive as advancements in graphics were decades ago.

    Rob

  4. Playing experience by Vexware · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Having read the article, I think that the author seems to forget that though we know have pretty much reached the summit of the quality of graphics, AI is not the only direction that future games will have to be aiming for; I believe physics engines are taking a pogressingly important role in video games, and this is an area which I think developers will concentrate on, as it is showing more and more importance for gamers.

    The problem is that now, AI is as "basic" as physics engines are. If you look at the best selling games, they probably have bad AI (XIII comes to mind, that game's AI is hideous) -- and an average physics engine. If you ask me, developers will have to find the balance between developing both, because these elements are becoming big enjoyment factors in player experience, as the players realise that good AI makes for a more realistic experience, and allows the player to progress in several ways instead of having to follow the same, linear route (a feeling which decreases replayability a lot). As for the physics engines, it's just something else which more and more players see as important; just imagine the possibility of great puzzles with a great physics engine.

    A game with both great AI and a realistic physics engine ([cough]Half-Life 2[/cough]) just needs some good level design for these to come through, and that is how you will create the ultimate player experience.

    The author of the article says the AI is more than just how the NPCs react, but nowadays I think the emphasis has to be put on this type of AI anyway, as it is still kind of apalling in most games. If a game has good AI, it can allow more freedom of choice to the player as the NPCs will know how to react accordingly to the player's actions and decisions. If NPCs are ready to act in "real time" to any situation, it is less a case of the player having to adapt to a game, following a linear route and ending up against a horde of enemies and some prescripted event, but more a case of the game "adapting" to what the player chooses to do, hence giving the player greater freedom and a better experience.

    As for the evolution of physics engines, one has to see how important this is becoming; there are so much more progression possibilities for a game with a good physics engine. This allows the player to interact with his/her environment in a much richer way, and use it much more as he/she would like to have it exploited. Coupled with a good AI, this can make for an amazingly realistic game and a much better playing experience, and in my opinion, these are the departments which developers have to aim expanding on.

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    1. Re:Playing experience by Osmosis_Garett · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just to reply to your mention of Half Life 2 (a title which isnt even available yet), if you're going by the games history, most of the events which gave the original its 'wow' were scripted events. The non scripted AI was unremarkable.

    2. Re:Playing experience by Shadeborn · · Score: 5, Informative
      most of the events which gave the original its 'wow' were scripted events.

      True, but Half-Life does also have team-based AI for some monsters (most notably the marines, the black ops and and the alien dogs). For example, the level designer could designate one of the monsters as a leader and the others would follow its lead. If the player killed the leader first, the rest would disperse and stop fighting as effectively.

      Also, the monsters could use the terrain for their advantage, if the level designer put "hint" entities at corners, doorways, bunkers, around obstacles and such. For example, the marines do take cover behind obstacles and try to draw the player into a crossfire.

      The most "intelligent" monsters of Half-Life are the female black ops with stealth gear. They did require a lot of hint entities to fight effectively, but could lure the player into an ambush by using one of them as bait while the others circled around the player.

    3. Re:Playing experience by one4nine4two · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I would, for once, like to be able to play through a game that didn't involve defeating my enemies by abusing their AI deficiencies. Sure, you have to find these ways, but after you do, what's the point? If you have enough patience, you can make every confrontation completely unfair because of the computer enemy's stupidity.

      In so many games you can attack an enemy, go hide in a spot the enemy can't get to because of other AI limitations (can't crawl, can't climb ladders) and they just go back to patrolling their original route like nothing had happened. This especially annoyed me in Splinter Cell in which I was expecting some realism. Splinter Cell most of all should punish you for shooting a guy once and then letting him get away. I would expect him to radio for help and then come back with a posse to hunt me down.

      The above probably flies in the face of striking a balance between realism and fun that the article discusses, but completely forgetting that you just got shot is really unforgivable. And don't give up just because I crawled into a vent. Throw some grenades damn it.

      The only game I ever played where I never even considered the opponents to be computers with a narrow tree of potential responses to my actions was Operation: Flashpoint. The AI was always smart and unpredictable. I never saw any patterns that I could abuse. There's a big difference between playing Counter-Strike (or insert any other deathmatch game) offline with bots and playing it online. I don't think that goes for Flashpoint and that says a lot.

  5. Where's the advancement? by PurpleFloyd · · Score: 2, Insightful
    One thing I find puzzling is the lack of advancement in game AI. In fact, many new games don't even measure up to the AI standard set by Half-Life (which was one of the first games in which military enemies actually used good squad tactics). In contrast, in Deus Ex 2: Invisible War, (a much more recent game) guards really had only one tactic: rush the supersoldier and die in the hail of bullets. To be sure, there are games with excellent AI these days, but unfortuately they seem to be the exception rather than the rule.

    One would think that games' AI would be improved as more and more CPU power is made available to developers, but instead it seems stagnant. Of course, this is almost certainly due to the fact that while some features (especially graphics) are easy to display on retail packaging, it's hard to evaluate the strength of a game's AI without actually playing for a while. Thus, Marketing pushes aside development of a good AI for shinier graphics, and gamers buy into the myth that graphics are king.

    I understand that programming a good enemy AI is difficult, and I don't expect to have every enemy equipped with a full neural net in order to learn my tactics. Still, is it too much to ask for enemies to attempt to flank my last known position when I duck behind cover? To me, a good enemy AI is what can make all the difference between a mediocre game and a truely memorable one. While other considerations - graphics, physics, gameplay, level design and stability - are important, it seems that game AI always gets left by the wayside in order to make things shinier and provide nice box shots.

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    1. Re:Where's the advancement? by flabbergast · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Did the parent read the article? I don't understand why you'd be puzzled. The author specifically states that game AI is different from research AI and almost all games use the same FSM and decision trees. Only games such as Creatures or Black and White use "advanced" research AI techniques like genetic algorithms or neural networks. FSMs and decisions tree operate at a basic level:

      If in this state with these conditions move to state Q

      otherwise move to state R

      So, half-life and deux-ex II both use the same basic FSMs and decision trees, and "advancement" doesn't come simply from increasing CPU power or more RAM (those things obviously help though) but also the programmers/designers ability to conceive of possible scenarios that could occur. So, if you want an enemy to flank you and kill you then someone has to think ahead of time "Well gee, what state would this bot need to be in before he would go ahead and try to find a way to get behind the player to flank him?" Then, the programmer has to find a way to get the bot to flank you (i.e. find a path to get behind you without you seeing) and then kill you. That's not exactly a trivial task, especially with so many possible scenarios involved.

    2. Re:Where's the advancement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Technically, traditional FSMs are the simplest to implement, and least expensive computing wise, but they've a distinctive lack of being fixed to what the programmer codes it to do. So for example, FMSs by itself will NOT work in games like chess or similar games, where the possibilities are generally too much to code in.

      FSMs will still probably have a part to play irrigardless, even if it's to choose what's the best method to think in a certain condition, but otherwise, game AI cannot really improve by much unless time is taken to use other more sophisticated AI techniques.

    3. Re:Where's the advancement? by MMaestro · · Score: 2, Insightful
      One thing I find puzzling is the lack of advancement in game AI.

      Actually there are a number of games that try to improve AI. The reason why you don't see it too often is because there are too many concerns about making it too "smart".

      Take for example RTS games. We all know computers "cheat" in those games with their ability to outsmart/outmove/outmicromanage even the greatest players. Make the AI too good and players get floored by them. Make them too easy and players complain about lack of necessary strategy. Its the same concern about FPS games. Do you give the final boss a giant gun with an insanely long reload time with near 100% accuracy or an average gun with a short reload time with roughly 70% accuracy? Difficulty levels haven't really helped either in this case the difference between some can mean a few extra/less life points in some games.

      As it stands, theres no "standard" for difficulty levels in games. In Halo higher difficulty level means tougher AI, while in Half-Life higher difficulty level means you take more and do less damage. In Doom higher difficulty meant more enemies but the same stupid AI, while in Warcraft III higher difficulty means same number of enemies but smarter AI. Theres no standard even across games of the same genre. A "Hard" mode in one RTS may mean extra resources for the opponent while a "Hard" mode in another may mean that the enemy gets a couple extra units.

    4. Re:Where's the advancement? by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I was skimming a book in Borders that touched on this - the people who did NOLF discussed the AI tricks they used. One good one was that areas were divided into regions, and when an NPC wanted to find a path to the player, they'd pick a direct course, then mark the 'cost' of the region *just before the player's region* to a high but not infinite value.

      This encouraged other NPC's to find alternate routes to the player, if available, without having to put in a bunch of hints and such. They'd just "naturally" try to flank the player if they could.

      Sorry, can't remember the name of the book. "AI Game Programming" was in the title, though.

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    5. Re:Where's the advancement? by CFTM · · Score: 1

      I remember that Warcraft II employed an adaptive AI. As you played the game more and more it would begin to learn from what you did, in both single and multiplayer mode, and even begin to employ some of your own tactics. I remember playing the Alamo (pretty much like it sounds, six or seven computer oppenants vs you) on my friends computer and romping the computers (I just fortified myself until the stupid computer was done sending everything at me and started sending lines of peons into my gold mines to try and get money) and it was quite easy. Then I attempted to play it on my system (I played on kail an average of 4-5 hours a day, amazing how much time you have when you're in 8th grade) and the computer absolutely romped me. That being said, it was beatable I just had to move a bit faster and the AI would still fall into the stupid peon trap but it was a pain in the ass.

  6. Re:Nice rebuttal to that "video game crash" articl by radimvice · · Score: 4, Interesting

    David Wong does say that graphics advancements have leveled off in recent years, but he's not making this point at the expense of ignoring advancements in game AI or physics engines. His point is that pitching the same old rehashes of rigid game genres with some incremental technological advancement to give it novelty value is leading the industry nowhere. Besides, whereas graphics are (by definition) a fundamental element of video games, AI (especially the pathfinding sort mentioned in this article) and physics play only marginal roles in just a few existing popular genres, and are by no means present in all video games. How is better AI going to matter in multiplayer games where there's more than enough REAL AI (human players) available? Or how is a new physics engine going to significantly alter the way we play, say, strategy games that don't depend on realistic physics for their essential gameplay? Looking to AI or physics as the technology that will solve the video game industry's many problems isn't the answer.

  7. Speaking of game AI... by WWWWolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    Memetic AI for Neverwinter Nights. This stuff is pretty innovative, at least in theory, and I hope they eventually get to the 1.0 phase with more than just the groundwork done. The approach it takes might be an interesting, even intuitive, way for building the NPC/creature behavior from ground up.

  8. basic pathfinding is not AI by Bobtree · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If there's a single shortest path from A to B, then determining it is a graph theory problem. There is nothing AI-related about it.

    How NPCs use the possible paths is where game AI applies. The article mentions steering, which is in the ballpark here.

    The reason graphics can continually improve, while AI is very iffy, is that we know what it is game graphics should be approximating. There is no similar target for AI, as there is very little knowledge of how intelligence actually works.

    1. Re:basic pathfinding is not AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If there's a single shortest path from A to B, then determining it is a graph theory problem. There is nothing AI-related about it.
      False. AI does not really describe a class of problems, but rather a class of solutions. The problems can come from many different domains, including graph theory. In particular AI solutions can be implemented to find a unique shortest path in a graph.
  9. Doh. It's obvious actually. by TheLink · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are games where the AI is very good and the computer plays better than the average or even above average player. Chess for instance.

    But would it make your game sell better? I bet most gamers won't like that when the harsh reality of a uber bot keeps grinding their noses into the dust.

    Given enough effort a very good programmer can easily make a very good bot that beats everyone in Quake 3 or something similar. In many modern games (e.g. FPS shooters) most gamers will NOT win against a well designed bot. A great quake bot can camp near perfectly, know exactly where you will respawn, monopolize items extremely well e.g. it'll always know when the megahealth is going to respawn if it took it, and if the opponent took it, it can still make a very very good guess too - based on it's estimates of opponent health/armour and damage so far). It'll have perfect hearing - based on sound loudness and direction, and it'll have near perfect aim (the accuracy limit depends on ping). If such a bot has a railgun and you somehow sneak up on it undetected, shoot and don't kill it, you'd most likely get shot in the next frame. You're unlikely to kill it with the first shot, coz it would be hogging the mega and armour - but since you always get killed in one shot, you never get to hog the mega or armour and so you always get killed in one rail shot. Your only hope is a map where it can't hog both, but then it means you can't hog both either, which means you just lose less badly, or a map where aim doesn't count at all (doh).

    You can talk about Go, chess and all that, but most popular computer games don't require much brains, coz most gamers don't want to use their brains that much, or don't have much brains in the first place.

    In short: most popular computer games aren't really brain games, so AIs aren't at a big disadvantage.

    Thus it won't surprise me that someone with brains can construct an AI to beat them in games designed for such people.

    But what's the point? If you really wanted to play an AI with semi-decent tactics just play against one of those cheaters with an aimbot. Some of the better cheaters might have slightly better tactics and intelligence than the average AI bot (most cheaters aren't that smart tho in human terms). If you're a good enough player with a good enough connection (low latency) you can usually beat em, and then they whine about as imaginatively as a bot.

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    1. Re:Doh. It's obvious actually. by Arngautr · · Score: 1

      Solution-Make he AI intelligent but place limits on its "skills"

    2. Re:Doh. It's obvious actually. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Given enough effort a very good programmer can easily make a very good bot that beats everyone in Quake 3 or something similar."

      I don't know about it being easy. I mean chess engines got to this point after decades of research. And they still can't consistently beat professional chess players.

  10. Article does not reflect current gaming trends. by ScorpiusFan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I disagree with some of the author's observations about the potential for improved AI in the gaming industry.

    1) The author neglects the fact that multiplayer gaming capabilities in games have reduced the need for developers to include well-designed single-player AI. For example, in the game Battlefield 1942 most people will play multiplayer over single-player since the single-player bots don't have enough AI to work in teams or operate vehicles effectively.

    Since a majority of the people won't play singleplayer, there is no incentive for the developer to improve the single-player AI.

    2) Lack of thorough analysis of AI techniques used in recent games. He covers some techniques from academia, but he should have interviewed more developers and which AI techniques they employed, and the trade-offs involved.

    3) A few errors in the article, like referring to a Counterstrike Bot as being from Microsoft.

    Later this month Valve will be rolling out an official CounterStrike bot in their "new" game CS:Condition Zero (which has a controversial development history). Any CS bots before this one were developed in the mod community.

    I'm sure the author could have interviewed the Condition Zero programmers and ask them what AI techniques they had to utilize for this new bot.

    A key point I do agree with is that there is not a common AI standard that game companies are using, compared to the video and audio standards.

    No matter how fast the CPUs become, gaming AI will not improve in general until developers can easily generate core AI behavior with little effort.

  11. game with good ai by UID500 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.farcry-thegame.com some really cool AI.

  12. AI vs Multiplayer by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    It has always been my dream to be playing a game and not know whether I was playing a person or a machine in any given match.

    When I sat down to make my own game however that got tossed out the window. It's so much easier to write decent net code then a decent A.I. that the two can't be compared, and when you consider that A.I. will never offer the same level of intensity that another player will the choice is obvious.

    Assuming that game developers are failing in the development of decent A.I. is besides the point, the real problem involves a total lack of motivation.

    For example it's easy to accheieve play balance with two people who use the same race and have the same variables applied, the more diffrences you create the more problems arise.

  13. Types of AI by Prien715 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's different types of AI depending on the genre.

    There's strategy games. Just because it's a game with very little chance (i.e chess) doesn't mean that writing the AI is easy. Though the Civ3 AI is really good, I don't consider it by any means infallible. Perhaps the best example for AI in strategy is Magic: The Gathering. Years ago, they came out with a PC version with AI. The problem was that the AI could never understand the strategies behind different deck and thus couldn't play them effectively. I think designing a good MTG AI would be much tougher than a good GO AI.

    There's also reaction-based games (FPS, 3rd person, etc). In this case, the goal is not for the AI to be better than the player, but to emulate the behavior of a human player. UT had much better AI than Quake, simply because the bots weren't omniscient.

    Lastly, there's RTS AI, which is a mixture between the two mentioned above. Like the MTG problem, RTS AI generally uses the same generic strategy regardless of opponent, but has lightning reflexes.

    Depending on the game genre, different approaches to AI are necessary. In strategy games, simply winning is a good objective. In reactionary games, since computer reaction time is better than human reaction time, creating a good AI player is almost trivial, but creating a realistic and fun opponent is a challenge.

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    1. Re:Types of AI by Zangief · · Score: 1

      There's strategy games. Just because it's a game with very little chance (i.e chess) doesn't mean that writing the AI is easy. Though the Civ3 AI is really good, I don't consider it by any means infallible. Perhaps the best example for AI in strategy is Magic: The Gathering. Years ago, they came out with a PC version with AI. The problem was that the AI could never understand the strategies behind different deck and thus couldn't play them effectively. I think designing a good MTG AI would be much tougher than a good GO AI.


      Although I don't know how complex can be the design of a good M:tG AI, I know that the state of the art Go AIs get their ass handed to them by almost anyone with some knowledge of Go.

      Other side of videogame AI that is interesting, is simulating realistic behaviour of third persons (which are not opponents or equals of the player) like all those hookers or police on GTA. If they have complex but razonable behaviour, they make the game more enjoyable.

    2. Re:Types of AI by CFTM · · Score: 1

      Chess is slowly losing it's ability to be this amazing game of strategy as computers get more and more powerful. I read an interview awhile back with one of the grand masters dudes who was saying that Chess is getting to a point where it's the ability to memorize lists of opening moves and progression that is seperating players. Furthermore, the size of the table is starting to get within the limit of computer memory on very high end systems, thus a computer could know every potential opening move and react accordingly. It's a bit more complex and I wish I had the article but within 20 years Grandmasters may not stand chance in hell of beating a computer.

  14. NPCs would be a welcome addition by MacFury · · Score: 2, Interesting
    How is better AI going to matter in multiplayer games where there's more than enough REAL AI (human players) available?

    I would love to see intelligent NPCs in multiplayer games. Say, in a FPS you have non combatants running around adding to the mayhem and confusion of battle.

    Also, you probably haven't played many online games if you say that human players have more than enough intelligence...I'm very good at FPS games and finding challenging opponents isn't always easy. Finding people willing to take orders is even harder.

    As an aside...I can't wait for BattleField Vietnam!!! Any gamers in St. Louis looking for a clan?

  15. CPU utilization by Loadmaster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If AI will become the next generations "killer app" (for lack of a better term) will we see things like AI cards? I know that most AI is processed by the CPU, but if the AI is too advanced might a separate add on card work well? Also, will we see some sort of basic AI programming environment. Something like DirectAI or OpenAI? I hope they start working on AI more than graphics.

    Morrowind was a great game, but it wouldn't work as a MMORPG. However, with adanced AI it would be like entering the world of Mournhold.

    As far as current games pushing AI forward; it seems like Fable from Molyneaux is the leader (we hope).

  16. The problem with realistic AI... by HeXpi · · Score: 1

    I think that too many of us haven't given thought to the fact that a realistic AI would practically destroy certain games such as shooters, as we know them. If every baddie in the game was as smart as you just how well do you think you'd do being outnumbered 1000-1. A zombie would be hard enough but taking on an intelligent cyberdemon with ten times your strength and a rocket launcher for an arm? Not a chance. Just how long do you last in a deathmatch online anyway? About a minute? Well, this is about how long you'd last facing an extremely intelligent AI system in a game like Doom. So, i can see where AI advancement is obviously needed in many games, however in many games going beyond a certain point(making the AI too realistic), would destroy the purpose, and fun, of the game itself.

  17. The problem with advanced AI... by HeXpi · · Score: 1

    I think that too many of us haven't given thought to the fact that a realistic AI would practically destroy certain games such as shooters, as we know them. If every baddie in the game was as smart as you just how well do you think you'd do being outnumbered 1000-1. A zombie would be hard enough but taking on an intelligent cyberdemon with ten times your strength and a rocket launcher for an arm? Not a chance. Just how long do you last in a deathmatch online anyway? About a minute? Well, this is about how long you'd last facing an extremely intelligent AI system in a game like Doom. So, i can see where AI advancement is obviously needed in many games, however in many games going beyond a certain point(making the AI too realistic), would destroy the purpose, and fun, of the game itself. (Sorry i originally posted this in the wrong place)