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Cancelling Out CPU Fan Noise

Percy_Blakeney writes "After realizing how noisy his computer was, a professor at BYU has created a new CPU fan that uses small microphones and speakers to cancel out its own noise. It isn't perfected yet -- it only nixes the whine, not the whoosh -- but it looks like it could be promising, especially given the professor's background: making jet engines quieter."

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  1. This would be a lot more useful... by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...if it were applied to noise reduction of one's ass after a good bean based dinner. ;p

  2. Huh. by dupper · · Score: 5, Funny

    When my CPU fan starts to make noise, I just whack my case until it stops.

  3. Re:Wow by Martin+Blank · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe on the inside. On the outside, they're already quiet enough that I miss when they're coming up behind me.

    Damned cars always trying to stalk and eat me.

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  4. Re:Wow by SEWilco · · Score: 3, Funny

    Excuse me, what did you say?

  5. Re:I should have patented it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    But if this guy can do it with 20 bucks it means that it's much easier than I though.

    Either that or he's much smarter than you. Which I would imagine is the case if he's a professor at Boston...

  6. How about cancelling out the noise from Lindon? by cheesedog · · Score: 1, Funny
    I'd like to place Scott Sommerfeldt next to Darl McBride.

    Hey Scott, please take a stroll northword toward Lindon, find the SCO campus, and do your magic.

  7. Keep everything quiet by nmoog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thats really cool. Its like those amazing bose noise cancelling headphones.

    I have wondered if it was possible to do this in my house. Where I live there is a lot of people who like to scream at each other alot, and it rather gets on the nerves. It would be cool if you could record your neighbourhood noises, and instantly replay them out of phase into your living room. Presto. The beautiful sounds of silence.

    1. Re:Keep everything quiet by electrichamster · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder what would happen if you placed some huge speakers in a room connected to mic's and some noise cancelling gubbins....would everything just fall silent no matter how loud you shouted?

      Could be a useful mute tool for the girlfriend when she goes on too long:

      GOD, you're so inconsiderate, you never take my feelings into acco
      *click*..........

    2. Re:Keep everything quiet by makapuf · · Score: 2, Funny

      Note that it can be non realtime, too. If you record your neighbours when they make some noise, then, say, one hour later, play it back VERY loud, and you repeat each time they make noise, you'll see some noise cancellation effect quite soon.

  8. Take out the fan, problem solved. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny


    CPUs don't get as hot as they used to; the bits move much faster through today's processors as a result of lower overhead friction. Lower friction means less heat, less heat means no need for noisy fans. The fan blade and bearing industry would have you believe that your off-the-shelf PC needs several fans to keep cool but this is simply to prop up the illusion that your system is so powerful that it needs to sound like a jet engine (pun NOT intended) to demonstrate the raw power needed to cool such a strong processor.

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  9. It never ends though by irokitt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Once you silence my CPU, you'll hear my hard drive. After you silence my hard drive, contend with my video card cooler. Quiet my video card cooler, and hear all 4 of my case fans instead. Quiet those, and hear the active cooler on my northbridge. Shut that up, and I'll go mad with all the silence...

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    1. Re:It never ends though by dlevitan · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, that's not how it ends. I actually did this. I bought a very quiet hard drive (Seagate Barracuda IV), and a quiet power supply (Antec Trupower 330). But then the video card fan made too much noise, so I bought a replacement. But then the power supply was two loud, so out went the standard "loud" fan and in went a super-quiet pc power & cooling fan. Then the CPU fan and the case fans became too loud, so I replaced them all with the same fans as the power supply. But then the PS fan was still too loud, so I put in rubber spacers and undervolted the thing. But then the case fans were too loud and I undervolted them. But then the PS fan was too loud, and I undervolted it. Except that then my PS started overheating from the heat rising from my CPU. So I built a duct from the CPU directly to the outside of the case (which works fairly well). It's still too loud, and I don't really know what else to do except possibly undervolting the fan on my cpu. But if I start with that again, I'll probably never stop.

    2. Re:It never ends though by Patik · · Score: 2, Funny
      I run Gentoo where it writes the files at the end of the compile/emerge.
      You complied something in Gentoo and it finished!?
  10. Re:I should have patented it... by zeux · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course he is much smarter than I am, otherwise I wouldn't be posting on slashdot.

    And I'm French, remember ;)

  11. Re:Mods... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Mod poinst? But, um, you just posted....

  12. Finally... by Seoulstriker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Finally I can run that 120mm x 38mm Tornado fan at full speed without going deaf! I wonder if the same device could be used to silence my computer's other 10 fans.

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  13. Re:Negating Sound? Its like new cars.... by electrichamster · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I have heard of something like that for cars ages ago, basically replays the engine sound over the car sound to negate it."

    Alternatively instead of wasting all that money on a sound cancelling system you could just install hugeass speakers, sub and an enormous exhaust pipe, that way no-one will be able to even *hear* the engine noise over all that deafening dance music you'll be playing.
    If you feel like it add undercar neons and go-faster stripes for extra style - they're guaranteed to bring the hot chicks from miles around.

  14. Maybe not for fans by Daikiki · · Score: 2, Funny

    This noise reduction technology only cuts out whining, you say? Can I order one medium sized one for my wife, 3 smalls for the kids and an extra large for my mother-in-law? I'll pay extra for overnight delivery!

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  16. Re:Why go through all this trouble? by irokitt · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have honestly seen computers put in freezers. Keeps it cool and eliminates noise at the same time. Leaves less room for the ice cream though.

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  17. Wind tunnels... by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 2, Funny

    We have a industrial PC that sits in a wind-tunnel. To us that's the largest cooling fan anyone would ever want.

  18. Prior art? 'rev' by janbjurstrom · · Score: 3, Funny

    $ echo 'I CANT HEAR YOU' | rev
    UOY RAEH TNAC I

    Ah, the silence :)

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  19. Wow, imagine... by serutan · · Score: 4, Funny

    A Beowulf cluster of those, attached to Rush Limbaugh.

  20. I must be retarded by macemoneta · · Score: 3, Funny

    I probably should have built a noise canceling tower or some similar nonsense, so I could get published.

    Instead of all the research and electronics, I put a drop of oil on the axle and removed the dust from the blades with a q-tip. It's been silent ever since.

    Silly me.

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  21. Whinny noise? by 6Yankee · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sommerfeldt set about to find a way to drown out the whinny noise from built-in fans that cool computers and other electronic devices.

    Did he try a fan with less horsepower?

  22. I've got more sounds... by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 5, Funny
    it only nixes the whine, not the whoosh
    That's good and all, but what about my "braaagh"? I've also got a "whizzz!" and a "fhwhhhh" that still need to be dealt with...
    1. Re:I've got more sounds... by The+Munger · · Score: 2, Funny

      A "braaagh" eh? Sounds like you need to stop touching the blades as they spin around. And for the "fhwhhhh", I can recommend realigning the PC into a different magnetic field. Try turning it 30 degrees clockwise.

      Or maybe just give it a good hard whack.

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  23. Re:Negating Sound? Its like new cars.... by MayonakaHa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sadly in a lot of places that's true... Of course it doesn't work if you like your hot chicks with at least the intelligence of a pile of rocks.

  24. there are lots of applications for this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    lets modify it to cancel out darl mcbride when he speaks

  25. Re:Absorbing technique instead by reidbold · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah man, damn plants and cubicles never shut the hell up.

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  26. Re:I should have patented it... by bcrowell · · Score: 2, Funny
    The experience I've had with the equipment in class showed that the noise cancellation circuitry recorded the original sound wave, inverted it and fed it back into the speaker. The combination of positive and negative voltage basically told the speaker to output zero signal for that particular frequency. Nothing is destroyed, it's more like an electronic tug-of-war. It makes listening to music a lot more enjoyable, however it works.
    I think what you're saying would be a good approximation if the distance between the two speaker diaphragms was much smaller than a wavelength of sound. In reality, the wavelength of audible sound is on the order of 10 cm, and although the distance between them may be somewhat less than that, it's still probably at least a cm or so. So here's the situation. The original speaker spews out sound in all directions, that sound has energy, and only some of that energy impinges on the second speaker. For the energy that impinges on the second speaker, it is at least theoretically possible for it all to be absorbed as mechanical work, and converted into heat and electrical energy. But the rest of the sound was radiated in other directions, and has existed for a millisecond or something now. If you cancel that sound, you're doing it "in flight," so there's no physical mechanism for expending it as mechanical work; it has to come off as radiated sound in other directions.

    Then again, I could be totally wrong, like I was in my reply to your first post.

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  27. Re:Negating Sound? Its like new cars.... by rpj1288 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wait, how do you know that the chicks will come? DO you have.. experience? You don't belong here! WE do not know of these chicks...

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  28. Re:Wow by RabidOverYou · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you reverse the wires, it sounds like a V20.

  29. I have a better and cheaper solution... by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've constructed a simple device that cancels almost all noise from my fan. A common #2 pencil inserted into the fan blades does the trick quite nicely. I've used this system sucessfully on three different computers, and I can tell you that the noise reduction is dramatic. Oddly, all three of them stopped working within minutes due to unrelated problems.

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    1. Re:I have a better and cheaper solution... by marcellos · · Score: 2, Funny

      Next time try inserting the #2 pencil in your ears. (Crayons are more confortable though). It also works well, and your computer keeps working...

  30. Re:Ears are sensitive indeed! by TwistedGreen · · Score: 3, Funny

    The logical next step, then, is to evolve quieter blood!

  31. Re:Wow by EddWo · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why are you driving on the pavement anyway? Are you trying to run people over? You should drive on the road like everyone else and leave the pavement clear for pedestrians.

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  32. Re:A Cheaper Way by thelenm · · Score: 2, Funny

    Isolated Quiet Area: free
    Index Fingers: free
    Veins and Arteries: free

    Watching all of Slashdot sitting in a corner and sticking their fingers in their ears: Priceless.

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  33. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Reverse the polairty on one speaker

    That's odd, I though Wil Wheaton posted on /. as CleverNickName.