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HP Shipping Turbolinux HP in Asia
An anonymous reader noted that "Turbolinux just
announced they will be distributing
TurboLinux 10 Desktop
with HP's Compaq business Desktop PCs in 12 Asian countries, including
China, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore,
Taiwan, Thailand and Vietnam. "
Some people always want to be FR1ST, like HP.
can it run Linux(TM)?
If MS-OS monopoly finally breaks, I reckon March 17, 2004, is a key turning point.
...and in related news, Micro$oft's piracy rate is cut by 90% as Asia realizes the benefits of open source...
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Hanlon's razor - Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
...looks like another target for SCO! I wish those suckers would try and sue HP, and get their brains beat out. That'd be funny. PS: I apologize for the SCO stuff again, but I just couldn't help it. They're kind of like crack, you know. Twitch...twitch.......
Quite suprising considering used to be is easy to find illegal software in Thailand.
I think HP is making the right choice by taking advantage of the situation. And with the CEO-Prime Minister Thaksin tipped to win the next election, things will only get harder for pirate software vendors.
Indefinitely Detained US Citizen
No, no, no. Microsoft's piracy rate STAYS at 90%. But, 90% of 100,000 installations is a bit different than 90% of 1 billion. (Not that this would happen any time soon, and not that MS would care about anything other than the good-looking percentages anyway.)
Actually, now that I think about it, the parent wasn't saying that there is a 90% piracy rate in Asia already...my bad. Still, the RATE would be the same, just not the raw numbers.
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
(now, where's that $#@! coffee?...)
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
It's always good to see linux being adopted elsewhere but I worry about HP's commitment to helping the opensource community. It looks like they sponsor a few project here but thats seems like a far cry from IBM's investment in open source. So my question is this. Do you think HP is simply profiteering off the backs of generous open source developers or are they doing enough as is?
Slashrank
Hong Kong isn't a country.
She's already shipped our jobs overseas. Why not ship Linux computers?
c net
Fiorina also said the company would increase its outsourcing efforts, but more for processes such as accounting. Most of HP's manufacturing is already outsourced.
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-270614.html?legacy=
Excuses to SCO group because the world doesn't let them steal what never belong to them... Muaaaaahahahaha!!! :P
Grep it for HP and Compaq. Now grep it for IBM.
So I would say HP is as committed as IBM. Both have something to gain by linux. They just have different ways of going about it. Yes that Linux add is nice. Helping making the kernel available for free is also nice.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Although HP is selling some Turbolinux installed systems in India, all their ads(in newspaper) show "HP recommends MS windows XP". They are selling preinstalled-linux just to save XP's license fee, which they otherwise have to pay if they sell windows pre-installed machines.
One may wander why Turbolinux and not say Red Hat is being shipped by HP and it seems they are just picking the strongest player there. TL had strong presence in Asia from its beginnings even though they had to close their US offices in July 2002 due to the mismanaged capital they had. They kept going in Asia and so now are apparently the most recognized Linux brand there. Their new desktop product in version 10 had no reviews amongst Linux analysts, I wonder if someone had the chance to try that distro recently.
IP was invented for the sake of lawsuits.
I suspect that it was the major reason Ms Fiorina and her gang (sp?) hasn't stopped flirting with Linux just yet (the other reason is HP realizing that something has just got to replace HP-UX... )
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
Boo, hiss HP.
My mom lives in Singapore, and complains a lot about Internet Explorer and Windows in general. I've tried to get her to buy a Mac or at the very least, switch to one of the Mozilla browsers.
She is resistant because she says there are a lot of web sites that are IE-specific, and don't work properly with other browsers. Singapore has moved to some kind of Internet-based tax filing system, and one of her Mac-using friends apparently had quite an exhausting experience trying to file her taxes through the web site. She (my mom's friend) eventually gave up and used one of the Wintel boxes at work to do her taxes.
Can someone more tech-savvy than my mom report on their experience with IE-specific web sites that Singapore citizens are required to use? I'd love to be able to get my mom using some other browser. There are some pop-ups you just don't want your parents seeing...
-- Bander
What we need more of is science!
please stop posting in this thread. you're obviously stupid.
They shoot you if you chew gum.
Much of the labor force is guest workers who are denied citizenship rights.
The rightful owner Malaysia should annex these bums and straighten things out.
they have their own flag, dummy
I haven't seen much TurboLinux here in the USA for about 3 years now. I still have an old ISO CD of it around, but it was klunky(3 years is a long time ago in Linux-years).
This was a bit confusing to me that HP would start pushing different distros in different parts of the world. Must be a marketing thing? They have a deal with Mandrake, and are increasing the push on it here in the USA and abroad. Now they also are offering TurboLinux, and I think you can get servers from them with Red Hat as well.
Makes me wonder just what their overall Linux strategy is...maybe to just "spray-n-pray",ie; blasting the market with as many solutions as possible hoping to hit with something.
I just hope this doesn't signal a move away from Mandrake. They have a great distro that continues to be at the forefront of features and UI/GUI develoopment for the desktop.
It could just be a response to Novell/SuSe. Talk about potential, they could have a bunch of server and client Linux solutions rolling soon that could really grab some market share. That is, if Novell doesn't fsck it up somehow or fail to put enough $ and time into it for it to develop.
Flash is the Herpes of the Internet.
your.opinion >
Slashdot probably has one or two international readers you know.
This was copied from the linked article, but it's still wrong. There are 12 regions listed, however only 10 are "countries". Hong Kong certainly isn't (it was a British colony, now it's a "Special Administrative Region" of China). Taiwan officially is a province of China (though in practice it is independent).
HP were betting at least half the farm on Itanic, when they canned PA and Alpha and they are pretty much up the creek now.
Their Itanic Linux effort is fine but 100% self serving, prety much nothing they contribute has an impact on Linux at large.
Help fight continental drift.
Dell, HP, and IBM are ALL offering desktops with Linux preloaded. Expect to see HP laptops offering Linux preloaded by summer.
Many of them have already been good and fixed by your gov't.
...that with the amount of piracy in South East Asia, most desktops will still be running Windows. Linux may be "free" but for all intents and purposes, a pirated Windows XP installation cd will still come out cheaper. Said cd costs approximately $1.50, meanwhile, the amount of time and the bandwidth needed to download and burn, say, Mandrake, would be in the region of $4, _at_least_. And since broadband is as rare (or prohibitively expensive) in the region as snow, the cost is likely to be more expensive. If the poor kid doesn't have a cd burner then he'd have to go to a computer shop to burn one, which would add another dollar to the cost. This is happening in a region where the daily minimum wage rarely goes over $2.50. Local LUG's are trying their hardest to distribute as many cd's as they can to as many people as they can. There are also quite a number of enterprising individuals (who staunchly claim they support Open Source) who sell linux cd's at $1 per disk. But distribution is not the biggest problem. The problem is the amount of support people can get their hands on for troubleshooting installations. A botched XP installation can be fixed with a phone call to the local "techie." The same cannot be said for linux. The general impression is that running Windows is cheaper in the long run since: a) you can get an "installer" at a cheap price (pirated, of course); and b) everybody else uses it so if you stumble into some problems, help can be had with a phone call or text message.
2. HP is a leading supplier of server hardware and support services.
3. An emerging Asian market that wants Linux.
4. Profit!
Finally a profit formula that doesn't have step 3 as a question mark!
Toronto Star article here
HP started selling their Compaq presario range of desktops and laptops in India some months back. The desktops comes preloaded with TurboLinux and the laptops comes with Mandrake 9.1 . Compaq's linux laptops are the cheapest in India.
-- Bijesh