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BitTorrent Gains Corporate Support

BitWarrior writes "Recently today it was revealed that Blizzard, the creator of many legendary games such as the Diablo, Starcraft and Warcraft franchises, will be using BitTorrent to distribute their Beta release of their latest game, World of Warcraft. BitTorrent is becoming a hit among companies required to distribute large quantities of data to their customers. Valve also jumped on the BitTorrent bandwagon last month(NYTimes, first born required, blah blah), hiring its creator, Bram Cohen. The one downside to Blizzards move is that BitTorrent has been added to many Universities black lists of clients to allow through their networks. Will the recent acceptance by such reputable companies open the possibility to Universities that not all P2P distribution is inherently bad?"

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  1. Acceptance of p2p by finkployd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Will the recent acceptance by such reputable companies open the possibility to Universities that not all P2P distribution is inherently bad?"

    Some of us are hoping that Lionshare will help a little with that also.

    Finkployd

  2. Finally by zaunuz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Its good to see that someone sees the legal side of file-sharing comunities. Im getting fed up by people who say things like "Direct Connect/Kazaa/many other things is illegal!". No... it depends on what you use it for. This may open people's eyes, and make them see the posibilities of filesharing networks. In my opinion, using it for distributing demos and such is a great way to take advantages of such technologies.

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    1. Re:Finally by slugo3 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Im getting fed up by people who say things like Direct Direct Connect/Kazaa/many other things is illegal!

      someone was describing to me the other day how kaaza and similar networks could be defeated and his plan sounded good. he seemed to think that this would end online file sharing. the problem is that people have been sharing files on FTP and Usenet for a lot longer than the idea of P2P was even born. with the advent of things like bittorent and freenet its obvious that people will always create a way to share information on the net. the genies out of the bottle and you cant put it back in.

  3. Would be nice... by fatman1683 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Would be nice if they made the .torrent file available, so you can download it with any BitTorrent client, instead of their proprietary downloader. Not that Blizzard isn't a reliable company, but I just don't trust downloaders in general. That being said, I wonder how long it'll take for someone to back-engineer the Blizzard downloader and turn it into a regular BitTorrent client =)

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  4. Re:Still early for P2P apps, but BT gets a lot rig by Jon+Proesel · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I think the great thing is that it's just a matter of time before this is a reality. All of these tools are available:
    • swarming a la BitTorrent - open source, check
    • anonymity a la Freenet - open source, check
    • browser support, Mozilla - open source, check
    • server-side support (setting correct content type for bittorrent links), Apache - open source, check
    It's all at our fingertips- now we just need to put it all together in an elegant way (do I smell a new sourceforge project!), and we will be in P2P heaven.
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  5. That's easily handled by Perianwyr+Stormcrow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Block it on the way out, but *encourage* its use internally. Therefore, someone gets the file from a BT source off campus, but no external clients will ever find it- but local ones will! These local clients will then save bandwidth by taking much less costly LAN bandwidth rather than expensive WAN bandwidth to get what they need.

    Remember that the most proximate reason for universities to ban p2p is the fact that it clogs their feed to the outside world.

    Close that outward feed, and then all is better than it was before!

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  6. Re:answer by quinkin · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Perhaps.

    If someone points out that they can rate limit the upstream bittorrent into a bittrickle(sic) without user intervention and that this combined with the current choking algorithm should push clients towards other internal peers if they exist. So in the long run, it could save them bandwidth costs.

    Of course, this does rely upon them also accepting that bittorrent is used for linux ISO's and other "educationally legitimate" purposes.

    Q.

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  7. Re:answer by MukiMuki · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No, they never will. Why?

    Ask my lab's sysadmin, who cut off BT's ports when we got a cease 'n desist order from a movie company. No, not the MPAA, a SPECIFIC MOVIE STUDIO. Not even a MAJOR one. Because someone was putting a 100k up pipe on a movie torrent. Because he/she was a SLOW human being.

    University networks are tricky to control (what're you gonna do, place controlled profiles in the dorm room users' computers?!) and only seen as one entity. If P2P program X has ONE pirate, the whole app goes down on the network. This isn't like ftp where someone's password account can be traced, this is P2P where getting the IP of the one P2Ping is just a bit trickier, to the point where it's not worth the effort when you can just kill the ports and any enusing lawsuits that'd possibly follow.

  8. Universities block everything these days by bangular · · Score: 5, Interesting

    These days, your lucky if your college internet access doesn't have you running through an http proxy. It's really that bad. Most of the Universities I know of (in the dorms at least) block all incoming tcp/ip ports, and do not let UDP nor icmp traffic at all. Basically, all you can do is browse the web. At one College when students called to complain they couldn't play certain multiplayer games anymore they were basically told UDP and ICMP are depreceated protocols and they should call the game developers to have them change to tcp.

  9. Re:answer by peterjhill2002 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have actually given a presentation on this at last summers Internet2 Joint Techs meeting.

    At Carnegie Mellon, all students get globally routable IP addresses in the dorms. There are no filters on the traffic (except bogon filters that an respectable ISP should have to keep spoofed traffic from leaving a subnet).

    We have a probe on our egress router that tracks daily inbound and outbound traffic sums per IP address. We have a policy that if a student exceeds more than 7.5 Gigabytes of traffic in either direction (calculated separately) over a 5 day period (1.5 GBs/day) they will get a warning message that reminds them of the policy. If after 3 days, they exceed 1.5GBs in one day, they get a warning, then 3 days later, if they keep on exceeding, we yank their machine off the network (block their ip on the router and take them out of the dhcp server config).

    We used to do the message sending and yanking by hand. It would take about 2 hours per week of my time. Now it is all automated and takes no time.

    Our rationale is that trying to do application policing is a losing strategy. It will not be long until the kazaas of the world are port hopping and encrypting their data, or encrypting the data and sending it over port 443. It is a losing game.

    Here is a link to the presentation material:
    http://www.net.cmu.edu/pres/jt0803/