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Sci Fi Channel Plans 'Earthsea' Miniseries

Gumpy writes "The Sci-Fi Channel has started producing a TV miniseries based on the first two books of Ursula K. Le Guin's Earthsea series. The Earthsea miniseries is supposed to start on the Sci Fi Channel in December 2004."

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  1. Nice synopsis for Earthsea Trilogy newbies by bcolflesh · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:Nice synopsis for Earthsea Trilogy newbies by The+Grassy+Knoll · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "The hero, Ged, born with the name Duny, learns magic tricks from his aunt, the town witch, who sees in him the possibility of great power. When his home island of Gont is attacked by the vicious Kargs, Duny casts a simple fog spell which enshrouds the village, hiding the villagers from the enemies and saving the village from certain massacre. Word of this deed spreads to Ogion, the great mage of Re Albi"

      Lordy! What a bucket of absolute toss.

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  2. What about Riverworld?!? by Roger+Keith+Barrett · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Aren't SCI-Fi ever going to continue with the Riverworld books, or was the response to that too disapointing?

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  3. Woah... How was "The Lathe of Heaven"...? by Mitleid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I meant to watch The Lathe of Heaven when Sci-Fi aired that a few years back, but missed it, so I'm whether or not to have my hopes up or not. I was sort of impartial to their interpretation of Dune, but then again I only saw the first miniseries. A Wizard of Earthsea wasn't the most "dense" of LeGuinn's novels, so hopefully Sci-Fi won't be able to mangle it too bad. This should be sort of interesting to check out; I might be actually excited. Heh...

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  4. Prepare for disappointment by rjstanford · · Score: 4, Interesting

    More than most fantasy, the Earthsea books spend time on internal character development. They can make you think. Their plots, frankly, are nothing to write home about - in my opinion, at least. Unless this is going to be an "adaptation" along the lines of Starship Troopers, I can't see it doing very well. But, who knows - I'd love to be wrong about that...

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    1. Re:Prepare for disappointment by mariox19 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      [T]he Earthsea books spend time on internal character development.

      The first one, especially, is a kind of Once and Future King with a touch of Harry Potter (though of course it predates H.P.). I'm thinking about the old wizard tutoring Ged a la Merlin, before sending him off to wizard school.

      The whole way to make this successful would be to concentrate on character and philosophy. These were the most enjoyable parts of the book, as I recall.

      I still remember being fascinated with the idea that Ged, having transformed himself into a bird to effect an escape, might lose himself in the bird's nature and not be able to transform himself back. (The old wizard eventually had to lend him a hand.)

      Television might have a hard time carrying this off without a lot of boring exposition. (Of course, well-written dialog and charismatic casting would avoid all that.)

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    2. Re:Prepare for disappointment by Otter · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Certainly my tastes are a long way from standard sci-fi fan -- you couldn't pay me to read anything by Robert Heinlein except Starship Troopers and his older space opera-ish short stories. So take this with a large grain of salt:

      I find Ursula LeGuin's books utterly painful, the most boring things this side of, well, Robert Heinlein. Even Left Hand of Darkness, pretty much a consensus all-time top ten, bored the hell out of me.

      (As an aside, where's Connie Willis' rabid fan base? Her books range from excellent to mindblowing, but I've never heard people fawn over her like they do LeGuin or the other tedious female sci-fi authors. Is a general warmth towards tradition and religion too politically incorrect to be assigned in those classes that are always pushing LeGuin? It's not like she's Margaret Thatcher.)

    3. Re:Prepare for disappointment by david.given · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I find Ursula LeGuin's books utterly painful, the most boring things this side of, well, Robert Heinlein. Even Left Hand of Darkness, pretty much a consensus all-time top ten, bored the hell out of me.

      You should be aware that Ursula LeGuin has an evil twin, Skippy. Quite a lot of her books were in fact written by Skippy.

      For example: the original Earthsea trilogy was written by Ursula LeGuin, and is wonderful. Tehanu, on the other hand, was written by Skippy.

      Likewise, The Eye of the Heron is by Skippy, The Lathe of Heaven is by Ursula. The Dispossessed and The Left Hand of Darkness are collaborations, however.

      Basically, while Skippy is not necessarily a bad writer, she's so concerned about pushing her message that the plot suffers immensely. Tehanu just doesn't fit in Earthsea: but instead of designing a new world were the message could fit comfortably, Earthsea got twisted until the message could be wedged in somehow. In my opinion I think the book's terrible. (The huge deus ex machina at the end is just clumsy, too.)

      But when Ursula manages to keep Skippy under control, she can be fabulous. You didn't like The Left Hand of Darkness, but I love it. There's a message, but it fits so beautifully...

  5. Never really clicked for me by AnonymousKev · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It's been a long time since I read the Earthsea trilogy. I remember enjoying the first book, but the other two just didn't click. The premise was really interesting and held a lot of promise, but I just couldn't get interested in the plot.

    Not sure why. I like the Lathe of Heaven and think The Ones Who Walk Away from Oomlas is one of the best short stories ever written. If I had cable, I'd probably watch it out of curiosity. But since I don't ... oh well.

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    1. Re:Never really clicked for me by R.Caley · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The premise was really interesting and held a lot of promise, but I just couldn't get interested in the plot.

      That's rather the problem for a visual adaptation. They aren't really plot driven. The plot is just an excuse to watch the characters grow. The first three are little studies of three aspects of becoming adult (responsibility, identity, mortality).

      The fourth never spoke to me, and I haven't yet read the fourth.

      I can't imagine them manageing to recreate that when the temptation to jump at magic battles with dragons is there.

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  6. And a recent interview by tiltowait · · Score: 4, Informative

    from this Feb. here.

    1. Re:And a recent interview by Pastey · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Favorite part of that interview:

      Q: Do you have a favourite TV programme?

      UKL: I used to watch Star Trek, until they went off the rails with Voyager, and when we were in England about two centuries ago we got hooked on Dr Who - the guy with the long scarf and the great nose, not the one after him who looked like he needed some vitamins. There isn't much to watch on American TV now unless you are into violence and/or canned laughter. Did you know that most of the laugh tracks they use are so old that the people you hear laughing at the sitcom are mostly dead? It seems appropriate.

      Appropriate indeed. I always wondered why "Friends" left me feeling "unclean". Now I know it was the living dead laugh-track.

      Or David Schwimmer's acting abilities....
  7. Hate to be a Cassandra by arivanov · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Time to put the asbestous suit.

    Hate to say it. It is likely to be a flop. Compared to Earthsea the Lord of the Rings is simple. I(very biased)MO this is the second most impossible movie after the Lord of Light. The reason is that you have both an extremely complex, logical and well described world along with a complex story line and complex characters.

    I love the rings, but the rings characters are like cartoons compared to the Earthsea (or nearly any Ursula Le Guin book).

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    1. Re:Hate to be a Cassandra by Unknown+Kadath · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't know if they have any designs on Lord of Light yet, but last I heard, Sci-Fi was planning on an Amber miniseries, written by Richard Christian Matheson, whose past writing credits include such tours de force as The A-Team, Knight Rider, and The Incredible Hulk.

      P.S. You're not a Cassandra if people believe you. ;)

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  8. Very cool by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Wizard of Earthsea series is one of the most underread fantasy series I know of. It isn't the best fantasy out there (that's reserved for Paula Volsky -- try Illusion and see what you think), but it's very good, and very different from most fantasy.

    I'd read the first book before anything else. I was kind of disappointed with The Tombs of Atuan book 2), which was very different from the first book. The third book was okay, but not as good as the first -- sort of the Dune syndrome.

    The setting is different from most fantasy -- a bunch of islands, lots of emphasis on sailing around. There are not a lot of epic things going on -- there's lots of pragmatic, down-to-earth people.

  9. Great! by bhima · · Score: 4, Informative
    This is great! Although I've read and enjoyed ALL of her books, the first two books are far better suited for this than the others (not being depressing or anti-men). They're short enough to translate OK into the mini series format. So far I'd give the Sci-Fi network good marks on their attempts to bring the Dune series to film.

    Earthsea world is a fun world to game in despite the difficulties thrown in by the latter stories.

    I wonder will they remake the lathe of heaven, and I'd love to see "The word for world is forest" or even "Rocannon's World"!

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  10. Don't get too excited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Considering the uhmmm, "quality" of most SciFi Channel productions, I'm not exactly jumping up and down over this one. The Earthsea books aren't likely to translate well to TV even in the best of hands.

    I'd love to see a big-screen version, though. I think there would be a better chance of getting it right in the larger format. Not because of "action" scenes or dramatic landscapes or any of the usual things people want to see in a movie, but because to do these books justice, you really would need to immerse the audience in the film in a way that isn't possible on a typical 29" screen.

  11. Re:DragonLance by B'Trey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Earthsea series is one of the defining series of fantasy. It is a classic in every sense of he word. The Dragonlance series is mildly entertaining escapist fiction with stock characters and a predictable plot. A Dragonlance movie or series might be amusing, but it wouldn't be near as significant an event.

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  12. Read the books whilst you can... by mccalli · · Score: 4, Insightful
    For anyone planning on watching this, now would be a good time to read (or re-read) the books.

    I'm not suggesting that the books are about to disappear. Nor am I implying that the TV series will be terrible. I have no idea how well the product will turn out, and the books will be as available after as they are before.

    No, what I'm saying is that pretty soon this series will influence your view of things, whether you want it to or not. I'm seeing this with my nephews, who are reading Lord of the Rings directly after seeing the films. They're seeing the book as much more action-packed than I did, and I'm sure that this is due to expectation after watching the films.

    So read them now, and then watch with interest. You're going to be influenced - can't help but be, but at least you'll have your own ideas in place beforehand.

    Cheers,
    Ian

  13. Please use mini-series by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Everytime I speed-read miniseries, it looks like miseries.

  14. The original was better by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think I preferred the low-budget version on PBS they aired in the 70's. It seemed to have more heart, plus I missed the aliens at the end.

  15. not really suited for SciFi by laura20 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They are wonderful novels, and I'd love to see them adapted but... so completely not suited for the SciFi style of miniseries making. They need almost nothing in the way of special effects, and a proper adaption would depend on really strong actors who can bring out the inner development. This is especially true of Tombs of Atuan, where a large part of the story involves the main characters wandering around underground.

    It's truly a pity that the BBC never picked up an option -- that have been a perfect combination.

  16. Re:DragonLance by blancolioni · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd personally rather see a DragonLance miniseries.

    What a bizarre non-sequitur.

    Earthsea is widely regarded as a classic, and not just within the genre. Dragonlance is somebody's D&D campaign written up with pedestrian prose, shallow characterisation and a corny plot.

    Though I admit Ged doesn't roll nearly as many natural 20s as whoever those PCs were.

  17. Not a trilogy. by flogger · · Score: 4, Informative

    OK, Maybe it was originally a trilogy:
    Wizard of Earthsea
    Tombs of Autan
    The Farthest Shore

    But in 2001 Leguin published Tehanu. The earthsea trilogy is now called the Earthsea Cycle. Of all of The Earthsea cycle books, Tehanu really showcases LeGuin's political and feminist slants. (This is a good thing I believe). Tombs of Autan had some and the other two books required a little more digging to get into her philosophy.

    If you want to read some great LeGuin I would reccomend: Always coming home and The Dispossessed. Both of these books are very thought provoking and well worth the time to read. There was an edition of Always coming home publihsed with a cassette tape of the music and poetry that was created by the societies described in the book. Wonderul stuff.

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    1. Re:Not a trilogy. by ElaborateCalculator · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, there's even more...

      The Other Wind, a full novel, came out in 2001, as did Tales From Earthsea, a collection of short stories.

      IIRC, the short story Dragonfly was originally published in Robert Silverburg's Legends compilation.

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  18. Re:Cautious optimism is called for by funwithBSD · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ever read George MacDonalds the "The Princess and the Goblin"?

    This seminal work was read by both Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, and its impact on their work is clear. Especially the "I am not gonna explain Magic to you, dumbshit, it's Magic!" attitude they all share.

    Written in the 19th century, it runs in the same vein as Alice and Kipling's works. The english is chewy at times, and can get down right sloggy.

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  19. Re:DragonLance by BJH · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Heh. I agree with you.
    I tried re-reading the Belgariad just recently, nearly twenty years after I initially read it.
    I loved it when I was a pre-teen; now it just gets up my nose. All the twee repartee, the fantasy cliches piled on top of each other, the utter lack of anything approaching suspense in the plot... taken all together, the books are just unbearable.

  20. I always thought... by tassii · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I always thought the Miles Vorkorsigan books would make a fantastic miniseries. So much material to work from and a lot of blanks to fill in for new stories.

    Space combat, political intrigue, charismatic lead character.. how can you go wrong?

    Unless Disney got a hold of it, of course.

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  21. The Name by sutekh137 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If only we could discover the true NAME of the series, we could control how it turns out. Anyone?

  22. with all of SciFi's funding... by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Why can't they [SciFi] put the funds to good use, like co-financing the Beeb's revival of "Doctor Who" slated for 2005? SciFi would be a better outlet in the States for it than BBC America...and reach a larger potential audience since SciFi is a basic cable channel and BBC America is usually treated as something reserved for digital cable packages. Yep, load up 10 Spanish-speaking stations in basic cable, but make the Beeb a premium cultural channel. Nope, that's not discrimination at all! Damn you to hell, Comcast! :)

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  23. Re:DragonLance by B'Trey · · Score: 4, Informative

    Escapist fiction is writing with no other pretense than to entertain. It's meant to distract you from your day to day existence. It doesn't attempt to address any issues; it doesn't attempt to teach any lessons; it has no theme or moral; it says absolutely nothing about the human condition. It's simply fun to read.

    The Chronicles of Narnia are children's literature but they are most definitely literature. They address and examine a number of moral and ethical issues. Their purpose is to teach children WHILE they entertain, not just to while away some time.

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  24. Re:When did miniseries become a cable thing? by NSash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe in 25 years we'll get Harry Potter miniseries done by some sort of children's network, and the plots and characters won't feel like they're being crammed inside of three hours to cash in at the box office.

    In 25 years, no one below the age of 30 will know what Harry Potter is. (Kid living with mean family discovers he has magic powers, secret history. It's been done better before, and it will be done better again. Don't get me wrong -- I liked [most of] the books -- but don't confuse them for something they aren't.)

  25. Re:better, by far, than harry potter by Ruds · · Score: 4, Insightful

    then came harry potter. a wizard going to wizard school, making friends and enemies while learning his special abilities and discovering his hidden power. huh. that sounds familiar. i awaited word of a lawsuit, but alas...

    i have yet to trudge my way through any of the potter books, or for that matter see the movies, but i recommend to any of my adult friends who do that they read a wizard of earthsea before inflicting potter on their children.

    hey, what a good idea! let's trash a book we've never read!

    i heard that wizard of earthsea has a wizard in it that fights dragons! that sounds a lot like the hobbit! tolkien's estate should sue!

    it's great that you recommend that parents have their children read earthsea; it's a great book that's perfect for readers from curious pre-teens to fantasy-minded adults. but rowling writes some fine fiction for children, and for you to discount it without reading it is pretty lame.

    here's a tip--try not to be so pretentious.