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Fedora Prepares For Xorg Instead of XFree86

ZuperDee writes "I noticed in the development branch of Fedora today that they appear to be in the process of creating new xorg RPMs, and from the looks of the changelogs in those RPMs, it looks like their ultimate plan is to switch from XFree86 to the XOrg Foundation's implementation of X11. Anyone else here think this could signal the beginning of a new trend in Linux distributions, and that XOrg could end up becoming the new de-facto X11 implementation?" (See this earlier story,too.)

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  1. Re:De Facto by normal_guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    One of the reasons I _don't_ like the open source market. Make a comment about one of the developer's favorite movies, and a new fork is started.

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  2. Re:De Facto Standards by Fourier · · Score: 5, Funny

    De facto implies that it is, in fact, the standard, as opposed to, say, de jure

    In the case of open source software, sometimes I think it is more accurate to speak of "the standard du jour."

  3. Stick a Done in me, I'm Forked by n8willis · · Score: 2, Funny

    OK ... for the benefit of those of us who don't hack X in our spare time: is the Xorg implementation the same as the "freedesktop.org" implementation (at http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/xserver) or are they separate and distinct? (Or maybe just separate?)

    Either way, how about brainstorming-up a better project name? I personally like "Product X" but that may already be taken.

    N

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  4. Re:For the ignorant (like me) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    X11's security sucks, but it's not THAT bad.

  5. Re:drivers by metallikop · · Score: 2, Funny

    Consider me confused. :)

  6. Re:drivers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Hire? I'd say they should look for a qualified marketing director that would volunteer. You start hiring a marketing director and thay start looking for trademark infringers to sue. :)

  7. Re:De Facto by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's nothing wrong with having hundreds of forks - usually it's pretty clear which one you want to go with.

    Hundreds of forks?! And I have trouble remembering which one is for the salad.

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  8. Re:I'm confused by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 3, Funny

    the XFree86-based DDX (called Xizzle, theoretically compatible with XFree86 drivers).

    Xizzle? Fashizzle?

  9. Re:For the ignorant (like me) by Daniel · · Score: 2, Funny

    Think about it for a few minutes before modding me as a flame or troll. Mind you, it seems that /. has become more about moderation than discussion for many. Sad, really.

    Personally, I think there should be a moderation score "+1, Misinformed". Combine it with "+1, Clueless" and "+1, Clueless and Proud of It", and you have an electronic recreation of the pillory! :-)

    Daniel

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  10. Re:First X Sucks Post! by grahamlee · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Steve Jobs said two years ago that X was braindead and would be gone within two years. He was half right." - Dennis Ritche.

  11. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny


    I fully expect Y to be the superior replacement to X. They're at 0.2 now and are targetting a 1.0 release in a year.


    Hoo boy. That'll never happen. Don't they know the rule about moving from 0.1 to 0.9 in the first year, and then consuming the next 5 years geting through the 0.9X releases?

  12. Re:De Facto by Frogg · · Score: 2, Funny

    There's nothing wrong with having hundreds of forks
    there is no fork...
    ah, no.. i remember: it was a spoon

  13. Only 21 forks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Actually, a hundred is a bit of an exaggeration. It's more like 21. Here's the run down of which fork you should use to eat which foods:

    "Three forks for Elven kings under the sky
    Seven for the Dwarf lords in their halls of stone
    Nine for mortal men doomed to die
    One for the dark lord, on his dark throne
    In the land of Mordor, where the shadows lie
    One Fork to rule them all, One Fork to find them
    One Fork to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
    In the land of Mordor, where the shadows lie"

    See, pretty simple....Happy eating.

  14. Re:Y-Windows by abe+ferlman · · Score: 2, Funny

    You know what would be neat? To run X in a Y window with transparency controlled by the Z axis of my mouse.

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  15. Re:As an end user, I don't care which license it h by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Nobody makes a 8 cylinder 450 so, you will have better luck looking for a hamster and his wheel. Go to the auto store and try to buy parts for an 8 cylinder 450 and they will know that you work on computers :)

  16. Re:drivers by Hard_Code · · Score: 2, Funny

    XFree84! Damn, that is 2 revs older than x86!

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  17. i for one, welcome by Spetiam · · Score: 2, Funny
    our new XOrg overlord

    anyhow, i would like to see another serious option besides xfree86

    xfree86 crashes quite frequently for me
  18. Re:Probably not. by mr_jim83 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...unless David Dawes pulls his head out of his ass and stops shooting himself in the foot.

    He must be flexible. And good at blind shooting.

  19. Re:For the ignorant (like me) by greenrd · · Score: 2, Funny
    The licensing fiasco was an illegal license change (Who ever asked Alan Cox whether his XFree86 patches could be relicensed? No-one.) and could happen with any free software with arrogant maintainers. It has nothing specifically to do with X11 which is a protocol as you'd find out if you actually bothered to read this fucking thread.

  20. Re:Would NVidia follow RedHat or XFree86. by MarcQuadra · · Score: 2, Funny

    Expect a BIG 'investment' from Microsoft or a spawnling entity for XFree86 soon, I guess.

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