Fedora Prepares For Xorg Instead of XFree86

ZuperDee writes "I noticed in the development branch of Fedora today that they appear to be in the process of creating new xorg RPMs, and from the looks of the changelogs in those RPMs, it looks like their ultimate plan is to switch from XFree86 to the XOrg Foundation's implementation of X11. Anyone else here think this could signal the beginning of a new trend in Linux distributions, and that XOrg could end up becoming the new de-facto X11 implementation?" (See this earlier story,too.)

Comments

Re:De Facto

[normal_guy]

One of the reasons I _don't_ like the open source market. Make a comment about one of the developer's favorite movies, and a new fork is started.

Re:De Facto Standards

[Fourier]

De facto implies that it is, in fact, the standard, as opposed to, say, de jure

In the case of open source software, sometimes I think it is more accurate to speak of "the standard du jour."

Stick a Done in me, I'm Forked

[n8willis]

OK ... for the benefit of those of us who don't hack X in our spare time: is the Xorg implementation the same as the "freedesktop.org" implementation (at http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/xserver) or are they separate and distinct? (Or maybe just separate?)

Either way, how about brainstorming-up a better project name? I personally like "Product X" but that may already be taken.

N

Re:For the ignorant (like me)

[Anonymous Coward]

X11's security sucks, but it's not THAT bad.

Re:drivers

[metallikop]

Consider me confused. :)

Re:De Facto

[Hatta]

There's nothing wrong with having hundreds of forks - usually it's pretty clear which one you want to go with.

Hundreds of forks?! And I have trouble remembering which one is for the salad.

Re:I'm confused

[Citizen of Earth]

the XFree86-based DDX (called Xizzle, theoretically compatible with XFree86 drivers).

Xizzle? Fashizzle?

Re:For the ignorant (like me)

[Daniel]

Think about it for a few minutes before modding me as a flame or troll. Mind you, it seems that /. has become more about moderation than discussion for many. Sad, really.

Personally, I think there should be a moderation score "+1, Misinformed". Combine it with "+1, Clueless" and "+1, Clueless and Proud of It", and you have an electronic recreation of the pillory! :-)

Daniel

Re:First X Sucks Post!

[grahamlee]

"Steve Jobs said two years ago that X was braindead and would be gone within two years. He was half right." - Dennis Ritche.

Re:De Facto

[Frogg]

There's nothing wrong with having hundreds of forks
there is no fork...
ah, no.. i remember: it was a spoon

Re:Y-Windows

[abe ferlman]

You know what would be neat? To run X in a Y window with transparency controlled by the Z axis of my mouse.

Re:drivers

[Hard_Code]

XFree84! Damn, that is 2 revs older than x86!

i for one, welcome

[Spetiam]

our new XOrg overlord

anyhow, i would like to see another serious option besides xfree86

xfree86 crashes quite frequently for me

Re:Probably not.

[mr_jim83]

...unless David Dawes pulls his head out of his ass and stops shooting himself in the foot.

He must be flexible. And good at blind shooting.

Re:For the ignorant (like me)

[greenrd]

The licensing fiasco was an illegal license change (Who ever asked Alan Cox whether his XFree86 patches could be relicensed? No-one.) and could happen with any free software with arrogant maintainers. It has nothing specifically to do with X11 which is a protocol as you'd find out if you actually bothered to read this fucking thread.

Re:Would NVidia follow RedHat or XFree86.

[MarcQuadra]

Expect a BIG 'investment' from Microsoft or a spawnling entity for XFree86 soon, I guess.