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Nokia Shows Off Megapixel Camera Phone

Anonymous Coward writes "According to PC World, the Nokia 7610 has been announced at Cebit in Germany - it boasts a megapixel camera (1152 x 864 pixels), 65,000 color screen, and 4x zoom, along with an MP3 music player and smart phone features that allow users to manage and edit digital images. It can also create short films of up to 10 minutes and with the Movie Director application users can add special effects and music to the video clips." Other readers point out a picture of the phone, which comes with the LifeBlog software "to help people organise the information they capture about their lives on handsets."

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  1. 4x digital zoom by erixtark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I assume that's 4x digital zoom, not optical.

  2. That's not a megapixel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's only 995328 pixels.

  3. Crappy Lens by Brahmastra · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As the resolution of the sensor increases in cell-phone cameras, Image quality is going to suck even more because of the crappy little lens used in them.

    1. Re:Crappy Lens by Threni · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > As the resolution of the sensor increases in cell-phone cameras, Image quality
      > is going to suck even more because of the crappy little lens used in them.

      When that becomes a problem which will lose more sales than it generates I'm sure it'll be addressed. Until then, a camera on a phone is still just a bit of a giggle and better than nothing. The quality of pictures on my phone (SE T610) is great, considering what I paid for it, which is nothing!

    2. Re:Crappy Lens by SnappleMaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're old. And so am I! (Kidding... :) )

      The price tag on this phone is $613. Uh... wtf? I make a very comfortable living but IMHO $613 for a phone is stupid. When I want to take pictures I'm not going to want to use a one megapixel camera. The images will look like absolute crap compared to any decent digital camera costing half as much, or less! Similarly I'd expect the other non-phone features to suffer drawbacks.

      Give me a solid, sexy little device that let's me talk to people and costs $30 and I'm a very happy camper. Strangely enough it's getting harder and harder to find such a beast!

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  4. blah by zaunuz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've had it with mobile-phones... when something new like this comes out, they cost like 2000$, and when the prices are low enhough for the average person to buy something new has been released. Im happy with my Ericson T65, and as long as it survives the daily beating i give it, i will keep it.

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    1. Re:blah by matticus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      wow. have you ever heard of the early-adopter-penalty? How is this different from any other technology in the history of the world? Can you afford the highest-speed Pentium 4 or Athlon 64 or Dual G5? I can't. But remember, this phone coming out will make phones that came out 6 months ago cheaper. Remember this in a year when this phone is given away with every mobile phone contract. Until then, I'll be enjoying my 7250 I bought right after the price dropped. Small form factor, good keypad, everything I want in a phone, plus a crappy 352x288 camera that I have taken some good memories with when I didn't have my digicam on me. This phone cost $1200 when it came out, and I got it for a tenth of that. Now it's free with contract. Welcome to the real world.

  5. Er... by nuclear305 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, that's great and all...seeing technology advance like this.

    But, honestly who buys a phone for the CAMERA? Now we're packing in video editing software and whatnot. Is this really necessary? The quality is usually so poor that it's not worth the small size...

    Yea, I own an LG-VX6000, and I tell you this...I bought it for the actual features it has as a phone and not the camera. I've taken a few pictures with the camera, and put simply...there can be no replacement for film and digital cameras anytime in the near future.

    If you want to take pictures..buy a camera! It will be a better investment of your money.

    1. Re:Er... by 10Ghz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Cameraphones are NOT meant to replace regural (digital)cameras! You wont take wedding-photos with camrea-phones. But the point is that you walk around with your camera very rarely, whereas most people carry their phones with them all the time (well, almost). If you happen to see something interesting, you can snap it's picture, since you will always have a camera (although a bit low-quality) with you.

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  6. That's a lot of features... by dealsites · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can understand combining a phone, camera, and mp3 player since they are all features that fit into a nice small form factor. I think that this will put a lot of the mp3 players and lower-end digital cameras out of buisness. After all, everyone wants a cell phone, why not get an added feature for just a $$ more. Combining a hand-held game however doesn't really fit the profile though, as with the N-Gage.

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  7. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Have traditional cameras been banned too?

    What do you do, leave your cell phone on the ground somewhere while you go in and change?

    Why not just fucking beat the shit out of anyone that improperly uses a camera of any type in a changing room? I think that'd be more effective, and quite a bit more fun. And free phone calls too!

  8. Poor design... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've personally owned four handsets in my time, and through work I've had the experience to use dozens of others, and when asked by others which manufacturer to go for when buying a phone I don't hesitate to say Nokia. But, having seen some of its recent designs, including this one, I can't help but think that the people in Nokia's design teams are losing it.

    Just look at the numeric keypad portion of this new handset. Then look at the numeric keypad of any handset you have to hand. Unless you own a quirky model, the odds are that your current numeric keypad is little different to that on a wired phone: four rows of three (1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9, *-0-#) arranged in a grid-like fashion with similar-shaped and -sized buttons.

    This traditional configuration is great, because it allows you to dial numbers easily by touch alone, even in very poor lighting or total darkness. Now tell me how you're meant to do that on this new handset? 3, 6, 9 and # are pretty well vertically aligned but 1, 4, 7 and * are pratically sloped at 45 degrees.

    Now I don't know about you, but if I was dialling without looking (something that's child's play on most phones) I'd expect the 7 to be two buttons directly below the 1, but on this handset, if you drop two buttons vertically down from 1 then you're hitting 8. Which means that to dial a number on this handset you're pretty much forced to look at the keypad as you dial. That's poor design.

    Sure, sure, it looks pretty enough. But if how a handset looks even comes in your top three criteria when buying a new phone (above, say, features/functions, battery life and size/weight) then you're a fool.

    The unwritten first rule of useability and ergonomics is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". The traditional keypad layout works, and it works damn well: it looks like someone needs to remind Nokia of that.

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    1. Re:Poor design... by briqui · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Change is not necessarily bad - ergonomics and design for human use have definitely made some things a lot better - but this does seem like a particularly poor change. In particular the right hand side of the keypad looks horrible to use.

      If you hold your currenly phone in you hand anything like me you dial with your thumb most of the time with the rest of your hand holding the phone. Now try pressing the '3' key on your current phone - by far the hardest key to hit on the whole keypad because of how you have to bend your thumb.

      Now look at the new design - a tiny, tiny 3 key right on the edge of the keypad.

      Ug.

      Do these people even use the phones they produce?

  9. Re:Megapixels by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Megapixels is the most idiotic resolution measurement system ever. Quick, what resolution does 3 megapixel equal? 3.2? 4? 5? IF THE CAMERA HAS A RESOLUTION OF 1152x864, just fucking say so.

    Weight is the most idiotic dimension measurement system ever. Quick, what dimensions do 3 kg equal? 3.2? 4? 5? IF THE IRON SLAB HAS DIMESIONS OF 10x3x7 cm, just fucking say so.

    My point being: Absolute resolution is one thing, but megapixels are quite useful for a quick quality approximation. Just as you know that a 20 kg backpack will be a hell of a lot more back-breaking than a 5 kg one, megapixels can give you an idea of what to expect from a camera.

    I'm not saying megapixels tell you everything, though.

    PS. My appologies to the metricly challenged.

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  10. Re:yes, but... by vidnet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do all these comments get modded up? Would you mod up someone who said "I don't want RAID support in Linux, I just want an OS that lets me read my mail"?

    "I don't want an arpanet with scifi mailing lists, I just want to exchange military information!"
    "I don't want a computer that plays pong and does spreadsheats, I just want to crack german codes!"
    "I don't want to melt rocks and make tools, I just want a nice heavy one to throw at my enemies!"

    For crying out loud...

  11. Re:Megapixels by binaryDigit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    IF THE CAMERA HAS A RESOLUTION OF 1152x864, just fucking say so.

    I suppose you'd also prefer if auto manufacturers told you that a cars engine was a 84x90 vs simply stating that it has a 3litre engine? Point is that most people don't give a crap if its 1152x864 or 1280x768, 1MP gives a more than close enough approximation.

  12. Re:Nokia have fallen behind the times by Kristoph · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The phone you reference is from Japan which has had superior phone technology for many years. It is fair to say a phone that comes out in Japan today will take at least two years to have a US/European competitor.

    Nokia is not so much behind the times but, much as every other vendor, is is behind Japanese phone technology.

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  13. What happened to cell phones?!!? by wobedraggled · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I just want to make a damn call from the thing, but the keypad is not very well designed for punching up a phone number. Cell phone keypads have become an ugly mess as of late. I don't need it to do anything but make calls, and have a phone book. I don't need a camera and I have a gameboy. geeze.

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  14. For better or for worse? by lhpineapple · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll admit that the functionality and versitility of these new phones sound great, but it really begs the question, how much is too much?

    It's hard enough to pry some people off a computer and make them, oh let's say, take a walk outside. I don't know if I could handle seeing every other person sitting at a park bench "appreciating" the scenery by listening to an mp3, taking pictures, and posting them in their blog.

    It's probably inevitable. I just hope we don't let technology govern what little part of our everyday life that we have left that isn't affected by technology.

  15. Re:I apologise for luddism. by eraserewind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You shouldn't complain about phones that are clearly not marketed towards you. Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola, etc. have absolutely huge ranges of phones. They cater for just about every market niche you could concieve of. One consequence of that however it that many/most phones will have features that you have absolutely no interest in. Do you complain that trucks have way too many features, and are way too bulky, when all you want is something to pop down to the shops in? No you don't (I hope!). This is exactly the same thing however. Does this phone look like it is trying to be a solid reliable business phone? Does it look like it even knows what a solid reliable business phone is? No, but plenty of other models do.

  16. Phone Calls? by bailout911 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow, this sounds great, but how does this PHONE do with making PHONE CALLS? You know, the thing you use your phone for 90% of the time? I'd bet that most people who have camera/mp3/video/whatever capabilities in their phones probably use those for about 3 days until the "look, it's cool" factor wears off, then they just talk on their phone like normal people.

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  17. Re:I apologise for luddism. by shic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > ... plenty of other models do.

    My observations have been different... while the 2-3 year old design works well, I would have hoped that a phone company would have extended an excellent design such as the 8310 to provide robust wireless integration to motor vehicles. It seems that developments in mobile phones these days have become more concerned with style than substance. The reply about the 6310i is interesting but still makes me compromise on size - and leaves me wondering about issues relating to "always-on" Bluetooth. Surely it should not be a problem to listen for Bluetooth messages from my car without seriously adversely affecting battery life?

    I'm not complaining about this phone per-se, but I am complaining that all mobile phone makers seem to have abandoned the idea that functionality improvements in core features will drive sales - especially considering the substantial demand.

  18. Re:Convergence by JollyFinn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Phone(NOW)==Watch(NOW) Hey I know that lots of younger people don't wear any watches anymore in Finland. Mobilephone shows time always when on. While its not as convenient to take one from you pocket that check you wrist. Some just don't wan't to carry one more thing in their wrist, and there fore they use the thing they carry anyway. After I run out of batteries in my current whatch I might do same thing. Only reason I keep whatch that is convenient in sauna and when I'm in hurry.

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  19. Re:short films? by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "I'm sure it can create short films of 10 minutes... that's if you don't mind a low resolution low framerate compressed-to-hell pixellated blob resembling vomit!"

    I have a Nokia 3650, and yeah it has a movie mode. Yeah it's postage stamp sized. Yeah it's pixellated. You know what? I have a video of my phone of my dog and cat playing together. It is low res and pixellated, yet you can still tell what's going on in the 'movie'. I captured a cute short-lived moment that would have been missed if I had run to the other end of the house to grab the DV cam.

    I guess my point is that it may be technologically disappointing, but that doesn't mean it isn't still interesting.

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  20. Nokia keypad design... by juhaz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nokia seems to have this weird fixation of pushing more and more weird keypads to their phones one after another. Not that they are the only ones, something like Siemens SX1 is even worse, but still...

    What's wrong with the good old squarish design with all numeric keys being at least approximately same size & shape?