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Nokia Shows Off Megapixel Camera Phone

Anonymous Coward writes "According to PC World, the Nokia 7610 has been announced at Cebit in Germany - it boasts a megapixel camera (1152 x 864 pixels), 65,000 color screen, and 4x zoom, along with an MP3 music player and smart phone features that allow users to manage and edit digital images. It can also create short films of up to 10 minutes and with the Movie Director application users can add special effects and music to the video clips." Other readers point out a picture of the phone, which comes with the LifeBlog software "to help people organise the information they capture about their lives on handsets."

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  1. Wow by dolo666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Locker rooms everwhere are in jeapordy, complete with automated pr0n-site deployment!

    1. Re:Wow by slim · · Score: 4, Informative

      Locker rooms everwhere are in jeapordy, complete with automated pr0n-site deployment!

      You joke, but municipal swimming pools in my county have banned camera phones from their changing rooms, for the stated reason that paedophiles might use them.

  2. 4x digital zoom by erixtark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I assume that's 4x digital zoom, not optical.

    1. Re:4x digital zoom by erixtark · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yepp, that's digital:
      http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,54962, 00.html

      Still no flash, though. Guess I'll stick with my Pentax Optio S4 for a while longer.

      I wonder when digital cameras will have bluetooth in them so I can take real pictures with a real camera and send them through the phone.

  3. short films? by wiggys · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm sure it can create short films of 10 minutes... that's if you don't mind a low resolution low framerate compressed-to-hell pixellated blob resembling vomit!

    Best stick with the mobile phone that's also a low-res video camera aspect I think instead of making wild marketing claims about how the phone can make you the next Steven Spielberg...

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  4. That's not a megapixel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's only 995328 pixels.

  5. Crappy Lens by Brahmastra · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As the resolution of the sensor increases in cell-phone cameras, Image quality is going to suck even more because of the crappy little lens used in them.

    1. Re:Crappy Lens by Threni · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > As the resolution of the sensor increases in cell-phone cameras, Image quality
      > is going to suck even more because of the crappy little lens used in them.

      When that becomes a problem which will lose more sales than it generates I'm sure it'll be addressed. Until then, a camera on a phone is still just a bit of a giggle and better than nothing. The quality of pictures on my phone (SE T610) is great, considering what I paid for it, which is nothing!

  6. actually by fuck_this_shit · · Score: 5, Informative

    the 72MB are marketspeak for 8mb internal plus 64mb sd card.

  7. Er... by nuclear305 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, that's great and all...seeing technology advance like this.

    But, honestly who buys a phone for the CAMERA? Now we're packing in video editing software and whatnot. Is this really necessary? The quality is usually so poor that it's not worth the small size...

    Yea, I own an LG-VX6000, and I tell you this...I bought it for the actual features it has as a phone and not the camera. I've taken a few pictures with the camera, and put simply...there can be no replacement for film and digital cameras anytime in the near future.

    If you want to take pictures..buy a camera! It will be a better investment of your money.

    1. Re:Er... by 10Ghz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Cameraphones are NOT meant to replace regural (digital)cameras! You wont take wedding-photos with camrea-phones. But the point is that you walk around with your camera very rarely, whereas most people carry their phones with them all the time (well, almost). If you happen to see something interesting, you can snap it's picture, since you will always have a camera (although a bit low-quality) with you.

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    2. Re:Er... by eraserewind · · Score: 5, Interesting
      But, honestly who buys a phone for the CAMERA?
      30% of the phone market if the Sony Ericsson are to be believed.

      The point of phones on cameras is that people bring their phone everywhere. People don't bring their camera everywhere, no matter how small it is. Of course a tiny fixed lens is going to be worse than one with real optical zoom, but it's plenty good enough for a lot of things.
      Yea, I own an LG-VX6000, and I tell you this...I bought it for the actual features it has as a phone and not the camera.
      As you should. It is after all primarily a phone.
      I've taken a few pictures with the camera, and put simply...there can be no replacement for film and digital cameras anytime in the near future.
      People said the same about digital cameras when they first arrived, but now you are including them with film to make your point. This Nokia phone has the same resolution as the Kodak that I bought 5 years ago. That's not such a long time really. Other manufacturers have already 2 and higher megapixel phones, and I can't see them stopping competing with each other anytime soon.
  8. yes, but... by elementik · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can I *CALL* people on the damn thing..!?

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    1. Re:yes, but... by vidnet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why do all these comments get modded up? Would you mod up someone who said "I don't want RAID support in Linux, I just want an OS that lets me read my mail"?

      "I don't want an arpanet with scifi mailing lists, I just want to exchange military information!"
      "I don't want a computer that plays pong and does spreadsheats, I just want to crack german codes!"
      "I don't want to melt rocks and make tools, I just want a nice heavy one to throw at my enemies!"

      For crying out loud...

  9. AAC Support! by Luckboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Take a good look, iTunes users. This phone has AAC support. One of the few players outside the iPod to do it. Don't take that to mean you can play music from the iTunes Music Store, I doubt it supports the Fairplay DRM, but now you can use the smaller better (IMHO) format than MP3!

    http://www.mobitopia.com/20040317.html#155506

  10. Nokia and mobiles by Alioth · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nokia do make nice devices. Phones, though, are a compromise. I've had a look at things like the XDA (you look a real dork holding a big wide PDA to your ear when making a phone call, and it also runs Windows - I don't want MS bloatware in my pocket thanks). The Sony-Ericcson T800/T900 has a much nicer form factor, but you've still got to type with a stylus when you text someone or need to enter a URL.

    I bought a new phone less than a month ago, and I looked at all of these. Then I saw the Nokia 6820. It is the same size as my old cheap-o basic Nokia phone, so it fits easily in any pocket I care to put it in...but it folds out - with a full QWERTY keyboard. Although I had to compromise in screen size (standard mobile phone screen) to have a genuine pocket-sized phone, the fold-out keyboard more than makes up for it: texting is fast, if I'm waiting for a plane, I can go onto IRC (using a neat little open source J2ME IRC client), I can ssh into a server if I get the call saying there's trouble and do some basic troubleshooting all with a keyboard. I couldn't care less about cameras particularly.

    The camera in my 6820 is useful in case of emergency, or if I really need an image right now and to hell with the quality because it means I now always have a camera with me. If I get rear-ended at traffic lights, I can take some photos of the incident to supply with the insurance forms as an example.

  11. Product details with more pics by Danta · · Score: 4, Informative
  12. Poor design... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've personally owned four handsets in my time, and through work I've had the experience to use dozens of others, and when asked by others which manufacturer to go for when buying a phone I don't hesitate to say Nokia. But, having seen some of its recent designs, including this one, I can't help but think that the people in Nokia's design teams are losing it.

    Just look at the numeric keypad portion of this new handset. Then look at the numeric keypad of any handset you have to hand. Unless you own a quirky model, the odds are that your current numeric keypad is little different to that on a wired phone: four rows of three (1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9, *-0-#) arranged in a grid-like fashion with similar-shaped and -sized buttons.

    This traditional configuration is great, because it allows you to dial numbers easily by touch alone, even in very poor lighting or total darkness. Now tell me how you're meant to do that on this new handset? 3, 6, 9 and # are pretty well vertically aligned but 1, 4, 7 and * are pratically sloped at 45 degrees.

    Now I don't know about you, but if I was dialling without looking (something that's child's play on most phones) I'd expect the 7 to be two buttons directly below the 1, but on this handset, if you drop two buttons vertically down from 1 then you're hitting 8. Which means that to dial a number on this handset you're pretty much forced to look at the keypad as you dial. That's poor design.

    Sure, sure, it looks pretty enough. But if how a handset looks even comes in your top three criteria when buying a new phone (above, say, features/functions, battery life and size/weight) then you're a fool.

    The unwritten first rule of useability and ergonomics is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". The traditional keypad layout works, and it works damn well: it looks like someone needs to remind Nokia of that.

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  13. Re:Megapixels by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Megapixels is the most idiotic resolution measurement system ever. Quick, what resolution does 3 megapixel equal? 3.2? 4? 5? IF THE CAMERA HAS A RESOLUTION OF 1152x864, just fucking say so.

    Weight is the most idiotic dimension measurement system ever. Quick, what dimensions do 3 kg equal? 3.2? 4? 5? IF THE IRON SLAB HAS DIMESIONS OF 10x3x7 cm, just fucking say so.

    My point being: Absolute resolution is one thing, but megapixels are quite useful for a quick quality approximation. Just as you know that a 20 kg backpack will be a hell of a lot more back-breaking than a 5 kg one, megapixels can give you an idea of what to expect from a camera.

    I'm not saying megapixels tell you everything, though.

    PS. My appologies to the metricly challenged.

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  14. I apologise for luddism. by shic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since the early 1990s I've seen immense value in having a mobile phone - just to remain in contact. 1990s phones were temperamental, fragile, bulky and permanently approaching a flat battery. In the noughties things started to look up - phones designs started to become more robust (no aerial sticking out); came in conveniently small packages and battery life sufficient for a working week on standby.

    Britain recently passed drive-phoning laws - which bans using a hand-held phone while "driving" (including when stationary - say in a not-infrequent motorway hold up) and I decided a legal hands-free kit would be needed. Blue-tooth seemed to be the perfect answer to the problem - a simple system wired into my car so that whenever my engine is running, the in-car hands free kit takes control of any phone calls - allowing me to legally use my phone without taking it out of my pocket. Off I trooped to the mall now obscenely cluttered with mobile phone shops. To say I was surprised is an understatement!

    Phone size - if I want blue tooth then I must have a larger phone (very undesirable) but that it would have a camera in it (no use at all thanks - maybe even a hindrance as I might not be permitted to take it with me everywhere I go) and a snazzy colour screen (Why!?! I just want to make and receive calls!) and a dramatically reduced battery life to boot. As for wireless connectivity - the vendors advise it is normally turned off, and activated only for the duration I'm using a particular blue tooth service...( What's the point then!?!!! ) and that using blue tooth would dramatically reduce battery life again!

    Don't get me wrong I've been very impressed with my current Nokia 8310, but can't help feeling that more modern phones have become feature crazy and now neglect the primary requirement to make mobile telephone conversations convenient and reliable with minimum effort. Nokia - PLEASE - stop concentrating on the gimmicks and get back to making solid reliable phones for business use.

    1. Re:I apologise for luddism. by eraserewind · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You shouldn't complain about phones that are clearly not marketed towards you. Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola, etc. have absolutely huge ranges of phones. They cater for just about every market niche you could concieve of. One consequence of that however it that many/most phones will have features that you have absolutely no interest in. Do you complain that trucks have way too many features, and are way too bulky, when all you want is something to pop down to the shops in? No you don't (I hope!). This is exactly the same thing however. Does this phone look like it is trying to be a solid reliable business phone? Does it look like it even knows what a solid reliable business phone is? No, but plenty of other models do.

  15. Re:Nokia have fallen behind the times by Kristoph · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The phone you reference is from Japan which has had superior phone technology for many years. It is fair to say a phone that comes out in Japan today will take at least two years to have a US/European competitor.

    Nokia is not so much behind the times but, much as every other vendor, is is behind Japanese phone technology.

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  16. Camera phones are a terminatible offense by hacker · · Score: 4, Informative
    My fiance works for the biggest pharmaceutical in the world, and they just recently sent out a company-wide communication that said that any employee, friend-of-employee, visitor, contractor, or vendor found onsite using, carrying, or possessing a cellular phone with a camera will be immediately terminated, no questions asked.

    For the employee friends, visitors, vendors and contractors, this means they are immediately banned from any and all sites for a duration of 3 years. The employee who has friends onsite using a cameraphone is immediately terminated.

    They are being very harsh, but these are the rules. Having someone walking around with a miniature camera in their hands inside labs, through buildings, etc. is an ENORMOUS risk to them.

    Check with your employer first, before you invest in one of these phones, or you could find yourself out on the curb without a job.

    Cellphone vendors need to be very careful with their product lines, and includes phones that do NOT include these features, so that they can continue to sell product. Don't just cater to the teenagers who think having a camera and a phone is "cool". Cater to the people who actually have to pay for those cellphone bills... the parents, and the businesspersons who actually use the devices for what they are.. a phone.

  17. Exporting pictures by slim · · Score: 4, Informative

    Careful if you're buying a camera phone. They're rather good fun, but you need to know upfront whether you're going to be able to transfer pictures onto a PC directly.

    I know a number of people who have to send a costly email/photomessage for every picture they want to move off their phone, because their network operator (from whom they bought the phone) has disabled the functionality to transfer a picture over a wire/bluetooth/IR.

  18. For better or for worse? by lhpineapple · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll admit that the functionality and versitility of these new phones sound great, but it really begs the question, how much is too much?

    It's hard enough to pry some people off a computer and make them, oh let's say, take a walk outside. I don't know if I could handle seeing every other person sitting at a park bench "appreciating" the scenery by listening to an mp3, taking pictures, and posting them in their blog.

    It's probably inevitable. I just hope we don't let technology govern what little part of our everyday life that we have left that isn't affected by technology.

  19. Megapixel rating is on entire sensor, not output by blorg · · Score: 4, Informative
    That's not a megapixel... That's only 995328 pixels.

    Actually, it's standard for digital camera manufacturers to quote the megapixel rating based on the entire sensor, rather than the output resolution. The sides of the sensor are blacked out, for calibration, and don't appear in the final image.

    1600x1200, for example, is the standard 2.0 megapixel resolution (but 1600x1200 is actually only 192k pixels).

  20. The Phone Event Horizon by mccalli · · Score: 4, Funny
    Douglas Adams was wrong. There's is no Shoe Event Horizon, instead make way for the Phone Event Horizon.

    I mean, it fits the pattern. Every second store on the high street is a phone store. Phones are made increasingly more difficult to use, and are replaced more and more frequently until eventually it becomes uneconomic to open anything other than a phone shop.

    I warned you. Don't say I didn't warn you when the Phone Warriors are sent in. Relax and enjoy your phones. They are very stylish and fashionable...

    Cheers,
    Ian