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Rocket Fuel Speeds Transistors

Mick Ohrberg writes "The rocket fuel hydrazine has been proven to increase the speed of thin-film transistors, which are used in LCD displays. It's also much cheaper to produce these transistors in a new "wet" manufacturing technique, based on creating the thin layers by using the centrifugal force caused by spinning the substrate. The result? Well, if the manufacturing cost plummets, maybe that 42" LCD monitor for my PC will be within (financial) reach soon."

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  1. Sounds great... by Randolpho · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... until your monitor launches into orbit.

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  2. This is hot! by jbarr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now I can tell people that my LCD really smokes!

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  3. OLED influenced as well? by geschild · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm wondering: as I understood it, the LCD plants need only minor changes to be able to put out OLED panels instead of TFT/LCD.

    If this process is little different from LCD manufacturing and LCD is not very different from OLED, will OLED benefit as well?

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    1. Re:OLED influenced as well? by TheClam · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hydrazine doesn't play nicely with organics, and there's no tin sulphide in an OLED, so no.

    2. Re:OLED influenced as well? by Komi · · Score: 4, Informative
      Acording to this other article it seems like TFT benefitted from OLED techniques, rather than the reverse. OLED semiconductors are popular they can be disolved into a liquid. In that form, it's very easy and cheap to build the circuit. It's much more expensive to work with TFT semiconductors. Well now they've figured out how to disolve TFT semiconductors into a liquid. TFT semiconductors have much better electrical properties. So you get the performance of TFT at the cost of OLED.

      I'm no expert on this, so go read online for more info.

      Komi

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  4. I suppose... by DiscoSnorlax · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...that these will give a new meaning to the term "Blazingly Fast!"?

  5. LCD tech is rocket science now? by Jtheletter · · Score: 5, Funny

    So for those who rtf, what I want to know is at what point did David Mitzi say to himself, "Geez, if only I could dissolve this tin disulphide in something really caustic. Like gasoline, only waaaay stronger... Hmmm, Mary could you bring me some of that hydrazine we have laying around? I think it's behind my lunch in the minifridge..." ??

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  6. Re:Good news - refresh rates by cruff · · Score: 4, Informative

    Refresh rates are related to how fast the actual liquid crystal material can reorient itself in response to the applied voltage. So, unfortunately, unless they also use a new type of liquid crystal, the answer is probably not.

  7. Hydrazine: Bad Stuff by whorfin · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the EPA and CDC. Perhaps Outsourcing LCD production is a good thing, after all?

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  8. Re:So... by flewp · · Score: 2, Informative

    CRT won't die until the price of LCD's go down (which this could help) and maybe more importantly, when the quality of LCD's (color depth/range, "refresh rates" etc) matches CRTs.

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  9. More uses by Lars+T. · · Score: 3, Informative

    This article (in German) says that you can make cheap, flexible electronics with this stuff.

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  10. No surprise here by astroboscope · · Score: 2, Funny
    The rocket fuel hydrazine has been proven to increase the speed of thin-film transistors

    So? Rocket fuel can increase the speed of lots of things..you just have to put them in the payload ;-)

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  11. Sniffing LCD panel by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 2, Funny

    Then kids start sniffing LCD panels instead of sniffing solvents. In the other news, FDA now classifies LCD panels as controlled substance...

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  12. Re:So... by Tailhook · · Score: 3, Insightful

    CRT won't die until...

    Define death. If LCD compromises performance (refresh, etc.) but not price, odds are the market will go 99% LCD and CRT will be rarified to specialty niches at very, very high cost. So while it will still be possible to get a CRT, you won't be able to afford it.

    LCD and plasma already attain sufficiant performance for the bulk of what the market wants. The only issue remaining is price. Those people who really need CRT (a small fraction of those that will think they do,) will just have to get funded.

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  13. Hydrazine? Tin Disulfide? by StateOfTheUnion · · Score: 3, Insightful

    . . . And if the LCD cracks, should I call a HAZMAT team to clean it up?

    1. Re:Hydrazine? Tin Disulfide? by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 4, Informative

      The hydrazine is only used while fabricating the LCD, it doesn't stay in it.
      It's used as a solvent to put a layer of TnS2 on the substrate.

  14. Just for the record... by Zordak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everyone can get their underpants in a know and call me pedantic, but this is one of my Physics pet peeves. The process cannot use "centrifugal force" to create thin layers of anything, because there is no such thing as "centrifugal force". A body in circuilar motion will have radial and tengential acceleration components. Since F=m a, you can only ascribe forces to your acceleration components. More likely, it is the tangential force that spreads the stuff into thin layers.

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  15. Re:Fire! by goneutt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The impermeable skin of the Hindenburg was made of canvas treated with a solution that included more than a touch of nitric acid. Cellulose + Nitric acid= Nitro Cellulose aka guncotton aka Celludloid film which early movies used, resulting in the occasional projection booth fire.

    If only gigli had been filmed on this stuff.

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  16. Re:So... by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 3, Insightful
    when the quality of LCD's (color depth/range, "refresh rates" etc) matches CRTs.

    For text-based applications (which is most of what comptuers are used for), LCD give superior quality to CRTs. No flicker and sharper pixels. I'm never going back.

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  17. I disagree. by quinkin · · Score: 2, Informative
    I disagree.

    Refresh rate, pixel decay rates, attainable colour space, non-native resolution pixel interpolation, RGB vs BGR for sub-pixel antialiasing, mean time to failure and fade, (semi) standard interfaces, etc...

    As far as I am concerned, with no ego/space/power consumption restrictions, a CRT is far and away superior for most applications.

    Re: the text performance on LCD, I assume you are using subpixel interpolation to get a usable display? Or are you just referring to DOS style low res character screens?

    If subpixel, shame it is a work around to try and achieve much of the same readability of a CRT. It's even more of a shame that the technique will not work on portrait orientation LCD screens (think PDA) unless they have been manufactured specifically for this purpose (I expect they will soon). Then there is the RGB/BGR problem requiring user intervention and/or confusion.

    You should NEVER have visible flicker on a decent CRT (unless you are comparing your new 2003 LCD to your old 14" running @60Hz). As for "sharper pixels" you are technically correct - unfortunately sharper rectangular pixels does not a smooth diagonal line make...

    I use LCD's and CRT's extensively at work and always prefer the CRT.

    Q.

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