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Blizzard's World of Warcraft Beta Goes Live

craenor writes "Perhaps the most anticipated entry into the increasingly crowded PC MMORPG market, Blizzard's World of Warcraft, has just reached the live Beta stage, for those select players lucky enough to be picked. In a distinct change from the existing trend in Beta tests, they are not going to require NDAs for participating players, and everyone will have read access to the official Beta forums while testing takes place." The WoW site includes a basic game FAQ for beginners, and BitTorrent is now live as Blizzard's Beta distribution method of choice, as the mentioned earlier on Slashdot Games.

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  1. Oh No ! by rkoot · · Score: 4, Funny

    My favorite Vaporware vanished in thin air !!
    r.

    1. Re:Oh No ! by Kierthos · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't worry... there's always Duke Nukem Forever.

      Kierthos

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  2. Rejoice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hooray! Another reason for me to camp in the basement of my parents house!

    1. Re:Rejoice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      I think the "Progress Quest" parody of everquest is the best cure for game addiction I've seen.

      Now I'm addicted to Progress Quest. and play it often - but the neat part is that it takes all the time-consuming grunt-work out of EverQuest while keeping the fun.

  3. Maybe... by dupper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...among geeks, is WoW the most anticipated MMORPG, but the most anticipated MMO among the general populace was Star Wars: Galaxies, and we all know how that turned out. But, then again, Lucasarts and Sony are pretty hit-or-miss, but Blizzard has a flawless record. Still, beware the overhyped crap.

    1. Re:Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I can tell you Star Wars galaxies is a lot better these days (vehicles, ridable mounts, player cities, a lot more content). Their start just wasn't perfect, but neither was any other MMORPG start. Let's hope Blizzard can get it right!

    2. Re:Maybe... by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is no excuse for star wars galaxy.
      They way they did it sucked, At it showed absolutly NO knowledge of what people want to do in the star wars universe.
      The Jedi was a complete screw up.

      Even though I know Luke talks about 'womp rats', people do not want to go out and kill rats in the star wars universe, they pretty much want 1 of four things:
      1) Get Rebel Scum
      2) Get Emperial Scum
      3) Be a smuggler Scum
      4) Merchant.(really no my thing, but hey its popular)

      Now, the Jedi should have been a class you can start with. Base you power on deeds, and have a Good/Dark meter. when you get REALLY good, or Evil, you start to get the bizarro powers.

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    3. Re:Maybe... by NoseSocks · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A hero? A hero would indicate that an individual player means something. Most of the MMORPG'S ( I dare say all) does nothing to make you feel like a hero. You just kill things that will eventually come back. The only reward is an item to help you kill something bigger. Any resemblence to a plot in these games is truly laughable, and half the time it contradicts another plot in the game (while the other half makes no sense it all).

      But the problem at large is not usually the game designers alone: it's the players too. If everyone only cares about getting the bigger hammer to bonk the bigger mole, then to keep subscriptions and sales up, the designers will cater to the masses. If you do not cater to the masses, you do not earn as much of a profit as the other companies that do, and then your management says "You're not meeting our expectations". It's an ugly cycle. Similar to how much of america watches reality tv, despite the fact that most of it is garbage. Would you put on a quality show that could only produce a fraction of the ratings of Survivor?

  4. Shameless by Bill_Royle · · Score: 4, Informative

    And already, some idiot is auctioning off his beta test account...

    Ebay auction

    1. Re:Shameless by toriver · · Score: 4, Funny

      ... and another idiot is already posting a link to the auction on Slashdot... :)

    2. Re:Shameless by Bill_Royle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nothing wrong with capitalism - but it's probably safe to say (considering their past) that Blizzard could easily make this guy's life difficult. Why someone would be dumb enough to do this is beyond me, aside from the need for cash. And considering the high profile that this release has, the seller might have to make some additional cash to settle, if Blizzard is as cranky as usual.

    3. Re:Shameless by phalse+phace · · Score: 4, Informative
      Scroll a litter further down and you'll see:

      "This account is no longer for sale. Don't send me any further emails. Thanks."

    4. Re:Shameless by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Same idiot? hhmmmm

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  5. Re:Honestly by d_strand · · Score: 4, Informative

    What are you talking about? WoW is an RPG, not an RTS. It has nothing in common with the mechanics of the original warcraft games. To be clear: You dont order groups of units around, you play a single character at a time.

  6. So whats new in this game? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Seriously. The trade skill system looks like they ripped it off of UO (which I actually love and look forward to, but still not unique), and unless combat and magic are somehow revolutionary, I'd really like someone to explain why I should get this game above another MMORPG.

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    1. Re:So whats new in this game? by Quobobo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'll be buying it based on Blizzard's track record with excellent games and their excellent support for the Mac. That's probably not the answer you're looking for, but I have yet to be disappointed by a Blizzard title.

    2. Re:So whats new in this game? by Disevidence · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because its in a well established universe with a good backdrop, made by a respected games company, and said company normally produces games that are entertaining and polished.

      It doesn't sound revolutionary, but rather it takes most of the good aspects of other MMORPG's, and puts into neatly into one package.

      So far of course. Beta testing will let the community see.

      Blizzard haven't made a misstep yet, in my humble opinion.

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  7. Overhyped crap by Nakanai_de · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...Is precisely the reason why the best thing to do whenever a game like this is released is to wait a few months before buying it. In addition to the advantage of seeing how the hype meshes with reality, there's the added advantage of having the later version patches available. Let other people find the bugs for you. The prestige one gets as an early adopter just isn't worth the monetary price or less-refined level of quality that comes with it (IMO).

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  8. Have you seen the videos? by OgreFade · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The gryphon riding looks really cool. Another thing that seems rather inventive is the death system, where upon your death you become a ghost and wander/go resurrect yourself. That seems interesting to me, and it'll be fun to see mountain giants from UNDER their nose, rather than from DOWN their nose. It seems to look good, I'll have to get the game before I can tell any more really.

    1. Re:Have you seen the videos? by flewp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Another thing that seems rather inventive is the death system, where upon your death you become a ghost and wander/go resurrect yourself.

      I haven't seen the videos yet, but the way you describe it doesn't seem that inventive. In Ultima Online, when you die, you become a ghost and have to wonder around and look for a healer to bring you back to life. Once brought back to life, you can go back to your corpse and grab your stuff, assuming someone else hasn't looted it.

      Or at least that's the way it was when I played a few years ago.

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  9. NOOOOOOO!!!!!!! by CGP314 · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is bad, bad news. Now the game is one day closer to being finished which means it's one day closer to when I can buy it, which means it's one day closer to the day I won't be able to leave my computer ever again.

    Blizzard game are like the purest of drugs. I got hooked on WarCraft I by a free demo in the store (the first one is always free) and I've been a junkie ever since.

    My lowest moment ever was turning down sex with my girlfriend the first week that Warcraft III came out because I didn't want to step away from the game. I fear it will be even worse with World of Warcraft. : (

    -Colin

  10. Re:Honestly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can we have a -1, Completely Misinformed mod option?

  11. Wait... I thought we were At War With Blizzard by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Over them suing bnetd?

    Well, I guess posting all those snippy comments on Slashdot really showed them who was boss. So now it's back to the usual fawning at their feet, is it?

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  12. Comments from an Alpha Tester... by IanDanforth · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since I was playing in Alpha I can give everyone a bit of insight as to what WoW is like. First off Blizzard has done a simply wonderful job. The game runs smoothly and if the server crashes, which it may occasionally, its back up in no time. The game play stretches from the familiar, where it has been perfected, to the brand new, to the silly (fishing). The graphics are wonderful and go more for style than realism, which is appropriate to Warcraft. The feedback mechanisms are streamlined, the download process is excellent (if long). The game holds you by the hand a bit much, but other than that I can't really complain. There will be a simply massive amount of info coming out in the next few days from Alpha testers freed of NDA's. So check out the shots and descriptions and see for yourself. Its a great game. Period. -Ian

    1. Re:Comments from an Alpha Tester... by rale,+the · · Score: 5, Informative

      I was also in the alpha, so I can give you a bit more info. The best part about wow to me, is the quest system. Its very nicely done, and you get a large amount of experience (along with items and/or cash) for completing most quests. The quests vary from killing a number of a specific monster, to exploring an area, and to collecting a number of specific drops. There are also some more interesting quests, such as protecting an npc while he walks from one place to another and gets ambushed by some bad guys, or others where you have a limited time (complete with a timer on screen) to kill a few things. Leveling ends up revolving around completing quests, and you can pretty much always have a goal for various quests, instead of just killing stuff over and over.

      I've played a number of mmorpg (way too much eq, played ao some, daoc, ffxi), and wow is definately the game to look forward to. If the quality of content I've seen extends all the way to the higher levels, it should be a great game.

  13. Re:Is this gonna be like Diablo II? by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, this is usually how it's done. It would be unmanagable with a million beta testers.

    Blizzard themselves admitted this problem though and said it was because they had anticipated more players to go single player first. (remember it was released when analog modems were still most common) Instead, an overwhelming amount of players went online.

    They won't have this problem this time around, since they know everyone will play online from the start and should be able to dimension the server capacity easier.

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  14. I'm anticipating Guild Wars at least as much by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anyone noticed Guild Wars?

    Developed by ex-Blizzard employees, and in the same spirit as Battle.net in terms of a free multiplayer service. New extra features can be bought (this is how the MMOG is financed), but they won't be necessary to play with those who have them.

    It has pretty graphics too. :-) The gallery is all unretouched graphics with interesting lightning effects making some people think they were post-processed.

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  15. Review from alpha tester by Daniel+Vallstrom · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here is a positive review from an alpha tester.

  16. Death - Diablo II HARDCORE by andy55 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Once brought back to life, you can go back to your corpse and grab your stuff, assuming someone else hasn't looted it.

    I was a "hardcore" mode Diablo II addict (in HC mode, you only get one life to live and when you die, that's it--you lose everytihng and you're level one again). I'd go for days w/ minimal food and rest--it was insane. Anyway, that's beside the point--I never had more fun with a game. It was the first time a modern game went beyond a FPS shooter game (ie, instant action), while combining a persistent character, while causing you to exhibit real survival-like behavior. When I played for those hours--and days straight--I was having *tons* of fun and laughs constantly and consistently...

    So many of these games these days have you sit there for hours w/o even raising your heartbeat--I don't understand how people let themselves play them! In Diablo II hardcore, I'd stand up after a few hours of play and feel like I just had a two hour-long workout (and I'm shape, before you jump on that one).

    Looking back, there wasn't a *single* hour or loss of a character where I didn't have hoots of fun. What other games (and/or game formats) can boast that? Sure, some of the deaths were painful and sad at the equipment I lost, but that's what real battle and gaming is--it goes beyond fun and enters the realm of glory.

    Glory isn't something that you can save to file, accumulate from killing a high xp monster a hundred times using hours of free time, or get from nice equipment. It's when you and a couple others that you've been fighting alongside with rush in a room where the outcome is unknown and is also for keeps--you get one and only one chance. And when you fought off the odds, the glory was yours. And when you didn't, and fought to the end, the glory was still yours. I bowed down--and fell in love--with a game that could let your experience that.

  17. Re:Open source when it's profitable... by dnoyeb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Blizzard just gets a little 'governmental' for lack of a better term.

    They didnt like the free battle net software because
    1. they couldn't control the gaming experience/viruses downloaded through it, etc.
    2. they couldn't advertise for their games and other stuff inside of it.

    The downloading software portion does not directly bring in any money, so they might as well use torrent. Not to mention if you used blizzards torrent you know it first involves downloading their torrent program, which is another place they can put advertisements...

    They only want it if they can control it.

  18. Whats this "we" stuff? by Tridus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I for one was never at war with them, they create awesome games.

    People need to stop thinking of Slashdot as one big collective with the same thoughts and goals. Its a website full of unique people, they think differently.

    Some of them are upset over bnetd, others couldn't care less.

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  19. Oh, please... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, please. Most games companies would quite happily sell their proverbial grandmother's kideneys or daughters into slavery rather than do the right thing. Blizzard, however, is an exception.

    Time after time, Blizzard has chosen to let a product launch date slide rather than release an incomplete or buggy game. And time after time, when those products have finally been finished they've turned out to be masterpieces.

    Can you name one bad game that Blizzard has made? Can you name another developer that has released three games that have free online multiplayer play that are as popular as Warcraft III, Diablo II and Starcraft? Heck, Starcraft is almost six years old now and Blizzard still supports it! There are even people playing the first Diablo online at Battle.net and how old is that game now?

    Blizzard objected to bnetd because it allowed people to play online without CD key verification (ie, without needing to buy a copy of the games concerned). When you consider that the initial purchase of those games (and the almost unnoticeable banner ads on Battle.net whilst you chat) are the only source of income that Blizzard has, it's hardly surprising that they weren't too keen on an online service that directly threatened their existance.

    If Blizzard has big $ signs permanently on its collective mind as you suggest then perhaps you can explain why it lets people play its games online for free rather than charging a single penny for the privelege?

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  20. Re:Screw Blizzard by (trb001) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you may remember them as the company that used the DMCA to kill bnetd and tried to kill freecraft?

    Unlike MMORPGs, Blizzard only has the sale of their games to provide revenue. They provide BattleNet free of charge, and it is superb. While bNetd was great and all, it DID make it so people didn't have to buy their game and have a unique cd-key. Having played D2 for a couple of months now (and getting thoroughly addicted to online play on BattleNet), I'm certainly in Blizzard's corner...their games are superb and people should pay what they're worth.

    Could the bnet thing been handled better? I dunno, I didn't hear all the inside info, but I seriously doubt that Blizzard wants to release their cd-key algorithm, and since that's the only way I can see them being happy with bnet, I don't see another way they could have handled it.

    --trb

  21. reasons for playing on Bnet.d by pwarf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While I never played on Bnet.d, I have to disagree with you about there being no other reason to play on it. Blizzard servers may not be strained now, but when I was playing Diablo II lag was sometimes a real problem, especially for playing hard-core (once you're dead, your character is dead).

    As previously mentioned, there are plenty of reasons other than not owning the game to want to play on non-Blizzard servers. A chance for reduced lag is one. Having different standards of acceptable behavior is another. Also, having a smaller pool of players makes meeting people online more likely. Moreover, if this is hosted for a local ISP, you are more likely to meet people in your area.

    The comparison of BNet.d writers/users with virus writers is unfounded; a better comparison would be with the writers/users of no-CD hacks or software. Some people may use them for pirating, but many others use them for convenience. Given current hard drive sizes, there is no reason to require a CD or even DVD to be in the drive to play a game or use software. It adds only slightly to the security against pirating, and removing it is a convenience to the end user. (Requiring the CD be in the drive, but providing no copy protection on the CD, which I've often seen, is silly; real pirates will just copy the CD and the rest of your users will be inconvenienced.)

    Another major thing you've missed about "improving the game experience" is that Blizzard was changing the balancing with each patch, which made a few of my friend's characters impotent (excessive concentration in skills that were nerfed with a patch). I don't know whether each patch was reverse engineered or not, but I assume that each server running Bnet.d had the choice of whether to implement a new patch.

    Also, from the ISP's point of view, every player they could get on local Bnet.d servers was less external bandwidth they had to pay for. I don't think Diablo II was that bandwidth intensive, but it probably didn't hurt.

  22. Alpha tester's report by pcx · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's a link to an alpha tester's report. It's a VERY long read but it's also a really, really GREAT read. If you're interested at all in what WoW is and isn't as it starts beta, this is must read material.

    http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1552 6

  23. Complaints about RTS games in general by gaijin99 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Well, I don't think I'd say WC3 was terrible, but it was fairly lackluster. The 3d aspect was incredibly poorly implemented, whoever decided to make a 3d game and not implement any real 3d controls was definately not thinking (for the "WC3 is the best game ever crowd": I know you can bring the camera closer to the ground. However, *real* 3d games include the amazing ability to rotate the camera to different angles, zoom, etc.)

    The "heros" aspect was newish, but I think it detracted from the game, really. If I want to play an RPG I'll play an RPG.

    What bothers me is that after all these years of RTS games they still don't have the improvements I was looking for after playing my first. Specifically, ways to avoid micromanagement. I want

    • User definable attack priority lists. I want to be able to tell each unit, or unit type, or group what priority to assign to which enemy types.
    • User alterable aggression levels.
    • The ability to set the level at which my damaged units will retreat and get healing.
    • User definable "response zones" so that I can establish a rapid reaction force and order it to aid any attacked unit inside its response zone, or to ignore attacks in certain areas.
    • The ability to order units with special attacks to bloody use the damn attacks so I don't have to fricking micromanage each damn unit's special attack. WC3 at least gave you the ability to set *some* specials to work automatically, but it wasn't very specific. I'd like to be able to order my special units to use X amount of their mana/energy/whatever for defense, Y for offense, and Z for support. Again, on either an individual basis, a unit type basis, or a group basis.
    None of this requires true AI, none of this is impossible for today's programmers. Some of what I want existed in the game Dark Reign (aggression levels, for example). Why has the actual mechanic of playing RTS games been left unimproved since day one? If I want a game where I have to be twitchy I'll play an FPS game. I don't want to micromanage anything. That isn't strategy.

    I figure that its much more important in a *strategy* game to set proper "standing orders" than it is to individually tell each and every grunt specifically what to attack. The commander should be thinking about the big picture, where to expand, what unit mix to use, the broad strokes of the attack, where to put forward staging areas, where to place support units (repair bays, etc), not focusing on individual units.

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    1. Re:Complaints about RTS games in general by gaijin99 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      There's pleanty to do that isn't micromanagement. Its called "strategy". We don't really have Real Time Strategy games, we have Real Time Micromanagement games. If my units are behaving according to my standing orders than I can spend my time doing the more significant micromanagement. Setting up tactics, executing flank attacks, etc.

      Frankly, due to the micromanagement of vast hoards approach we see virtually no strategy in RTS games. When was the last time you saw a well executed flanking maneuver? Or lead your opponent into an ambush (in StarCraft there isn't even a "hold your fire" command, anytime there's an enemy unit in range your units attack, no possibilities for subtelty there...) People are so busy with the nonesense that actual tactics and strategy are almost completely gone.

      As I said in my original post, a commander should be working on proper unit mix for the situation, planning tactics and strategy, building expansions, etc. I'll freely admit that it would remove some of the challenge of fighting the computer, but the real challenge has always been found fighting other humans online. I'd much rather match my tactical and strategic skills than match my ability to click a lot. General Colin Powel, General Tommy Franks, etc don't spend time telling individual soldiers what to do, but they're hardly just sitting back and watching either.

      At the very least I'd like to see those things as options, that way if you want to see who is the best at controling vast numbers of units you can set up an online game that doesn't allow those options, and people like me can play the other way. It may be that you are correct and a game with those options would be boring (I don't think so, but I'll admit the possibility), but I'd like to see a game set up that way so we can actually give it a try instead of sitting around debating weather it might be boring to try something different.

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  24. Star Wars Combine by bonch · · Score: 3, Informative

    If it would EVER get finished, the Star Wars Combine is what you've described.