Any trash supervisor can search my trash can if they want to. I just don't know if it's worth it - two big labradors generate a fair amount of dog shit, and that is the last thing in the can before trash day.
I agree with your assertion that it's a problem for the industry as a whole. In terms of products for home users the market is really sparse, and I don't like having to hassle through any of the stuff either, even on the enterprise side.
Sounds like that might help some. I haven't tried it but running that once a month, then hitting Windows Update would probably keep your bases covered pretty well.
Anyhow, I'm not disputing that the situation sucks, but I am disputing the notion that there aren't ways to address patching. Cheap? No. Available? Yes.
Sorry, that's not the case. I'm not happy about this month's load of patches, but there are perfectly good patch management solutions out there that can manage multiple vendors and products with ease. I've had pretty good luck with Patchlink, and expect that in the next day or so I'll have a reasonable amount of information to go through to determine what needs to be patched. And when I have a question I know I can contact someone there to get more specifics.
I think what a lot of people don't like is that there's not a *free* patch management solution that is as effective as some of the paid ones (such as Patchlink). But that is a complaint based on price, not on availability. There are working solutions out there, it's just that many of the good ones often cost money. As an enterprise user I need the resources and continuity that a commercial product can contractually provide.
As for package management as it relates to Windows, that's different than patch management. The benefit that an OS like Ubuntu brings to the table is a dead-simple updating mechanism that can cover multiple products. It can be used to roll out patches, sure, and it is. But it is also used intensively for rolling out cursory product updates which have more to do with bug fixes than security flaws. Is that because Ubuntu or other Linux flavors are more secure? Probably - but a lot of that also comes down to market share more than programming quality.
One way or the other, the statement that patch management is a total nightmare isn't the case - it just depends on the approach and purchasing priorities that you set.
Disclosure: I don't work for nor have I ever worked for Lumension, and I haven't received anything (and won't) for posting this.
Good point - but then you're hitching the proverbial wagon to not just one vendor now, but two.
While you could approach the problem this way, wouldn't it be a lot more efficient to just work with the web app vendor to build in compatibility?
Clearly it can be done - I'm betting that Hong Jen Yee would be up for a nice paycheck for this kind of work.
The problem isn't that companies can't deploy Firefox - it's that most vendors are IE-centric. It's easy to put together a default Firefox profile with the requisite bookmarks and customizations, but tougher to get the same "experience" when it comes to things like Sharepoint and SAP, among others. Once you can get some of those vendors (ok, maybe not MS) to play more nicely, the rest will take care of itself.
I'm not saying it's all Mozilla's fault - in fact most of it isn't. But some corporate evangelism would go a long way towards getting traction within the enterprise.
I agree with you that it's exercise - but the focus of the story is a gaming console. And that console is focused on entertainment.
There are games that involve exercise that can be fun, yes. But they're not ones that I'm going to come back to as often. After all, does playing what are essentially Marble Madness-type games win out over possible game of Mario Kart, Splinter Cell, or Gran Turismo (to name a couple)?
I'd agree with that statement if not for the fact that I've got a Wii Fit board sitting in the garage gathering dust. It was fun for a week or so, but it didn't endure as an enjoyable thing to do.
Perhaps if I was overweight I would be more motivated to use it, but it became more of a chore than fun. That's not a good indictment of a game console / hardware accessory.
As long as they add a GNAA tag too, I'll know it is all in good fun. After all, it is April 1st - everything's funny if today's posts are any indicators.
Heck, this UID isn't more valuable than any others really! However, I'd be posting from my other one (in the low 100k's), but I save that one for special occasions:)
"Now I'm waiting for wireless electricity and I'll be set!"
I recommend that you rent "Back to the Future" for pointers on how to get yourself going there. Doc had a pretty good flux capacitor modded up, not sure if you can get it still, though. Maybe try Newegg?
For those of you that want to emulate a cracker attack, I cannot recommended highly enough any of the ABBA albums out there. Turn that on amongst any non-crackers, and you will know rapidly how well things will hold up.
There are limits to this type of stress-testing, though - playing any "Rocky" movie will likely cause excessive bleeding from your ears. There's no reason to go overboard when cracker-testing.
Very true - however, from the standpoint of legal fees, etc, it wouldn't be a financially sound decision. Right or wrong, they would be able to outlast me in court, strictly from a financial standpoint. Thus, I called it good. Like I said though, perhaps this guy has more resources to keep up:)
I've had a bit of experience in this area, as the RIAA violated my copyright a couple of years ago by reprinting an article I wrote on intellectual property. Had it not been cited by the Washington Post I wouldn't have even been aware of it! Still they ended up distributing that material in a press packet, and of course it was all without permission. They ended up apologizing, but there wasn't really anything that I could do about it at that point.
I suspect it'll be the same with this guy. His case is better than mine, I'd think, as he's got legal resources to some degree I'd think. However, my bet is that in terms of an overall payoff, all this is going to produce for him is perhaps some free press.
I wish him the best, regardless! Way to expose these folks:)
"Its easy to secure your network and if you cant do it then call someone to do it for you."
Who, like the neighbor kid in TFA who sent death threats via his "secured" network?
While I can secure my wireless network, I can understand how people would be leery about asking for help... especially with all of the FUD pieces out there like this article.
Richard Stallman without anger is like Diana Ross without the Supremes: both have less than stellar performances, and both still need new hairdressers.
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Considering the Spybot worm (not referring to the anti-spyware software) and the different ones out there that don't need user interaction after the first outbreak, I'm not surprised at all by this. In a lot of cases, even if just one box is infected on a subnet it'll often nail every unpatched box.
Consider this: 12 minutes after your Windows box is installed, are all of your patches finished?
Not a chance unless you're working off an image or have slipstreamed the hell out of everything somehow.
I'm not saying that employers doing this are always making the right decisions when they go forward with ideas. Having to maintain a bad idea isn't any fun - but that still doesn't negate the reality that you are choosing to accept those circumstances.
I know it's not that easy to just walk, but at the same time - if you aren't enjoying your job or the company you are in, you *can* go somewhere else.
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Bush coalition-building / nation-building = bad
Obama coalition-building / nation-building = good
Wait, what?
The fact that the French took the lead on this says volumes about how big of a pussy Obama really is.
Any trash supervisor can search my trash can if they want to. I just don't know if it's worth it - two big labradors generate a fair amount of dog shit, and that is the last thing in the can before trash day.
Yeah... I'm thinking that the Pirate Party can do without pedophiles.
I agree with your assertion that it's a problem for the industry as a whole. In terms of products for home users the market is really sparse, and I don't like having to hassle through any of the stuff either, even on the enterprise side.
A quick google of "update checker" brought up this result: http://www.filehippo.com/updatechecker/
Sounds like that might help some. I haven't tried it but running that once a month, then hitting Windows Update would probably keep your bases covered pretty well.
Anyhow, I'm not disputing that the situation sucks, but I am disputing the notion that there aren't ways to address patching. Cheap? No. Available? Yes.
Sorry, that's not the case. I'm not happy about this month's load of patches, but there are perfectly good patch management solutions out there that can manage multiple vendors and products with ease. I've had pretty good luck with Patchlink, and expect that in the next day or so I'll have a reasonable amount of information to go through to determine what needs to be patched. And when I have a question I know I can contact someone there to get more specifics.
I think what a lot of people don't like is that there's not a *free* patch management solution that is as effective as some of the paid ones (such as Patchlink). But that is a complaint based on price, not on availability. There are working solutions out there, it's just that many of the good ones often cost money. As an enterprise user I need the resources and continuity that a commercial product can contractually provide.
As for package management as it relates to Windows, that's different than patch management. The benefit that an OS like Ubuntu brings to the table is a dead-simple updating mechanism that can cover multiple products. It can be used to roll out patches, sure, and it is. But it is also used intensively for rolling out cursory product updates which have more to do with bug fixes than security flaws. Is that because Ubuntu or other Linux flavors are more secure? Probably - but a lot of that also comes down to market share more than programming quality.
One way or the other, the statement that patch management is a total nightmare isn't the case - it just depends on the approach and purchasing priorities that you set.
Disclosure: I don't work for nor have I ever worked for Lumension, and I haven't received anything (and won't) for posting this.
Good point - but then you're hitching the proverbial wagon to not just one vendor now, but two. While you could approach the problem this way, wouldn't it be a lot more efficient to just work with the web app vendor to build in compatibility?
Clearly it can be done - I'm betting that Hong Jen Yee would be up for a nice paycheck for this kind of work.
The problem isn't that companies can't deploy Firefox - it's that most vendors are IE-centric. It's easy to put together a default Firefox profile with the requisite bookmarks and customizations, but tougher to get the same "experience" when it comes to things like Sharepoint and SAP, among others. Once you can get some of those vendors (ok, maybe not MS) to play more nicely, the rest will take care of itself.
I'm not saying it's all Mozilla's fault - in fact most of it isn't. But some corporate evangelism would go a long way towards getting traction within the enterprise.
I agree with you that it's exercise - but the focus of the story is a gaming console. And that console is focused on entertainment.
There are games that involve exercise that can be fun, yes. But they're not ones that I'm going to come back to as often. After all, does playing what are essentially Marble Madness-type games win out over possible game of Mario Kart, Splinter Cell, or Gran Turismo (to name a couple)?
Not usually.
Unit sales don't automatically equal usability.
I'd agree with that statement if not for the fact that I've got a Wii Fit board sitting in the garage gathering dust. It was fun for a week or so, but it didn't endure as an enjoyable thing to do.
Perhaps if I was overweight I would be more motivated to use it, but it became more of a chore than fun. That's not a good indictment of a game console / hardware accessory.
I don't think I'd call what Netscape has been "real intellectual news".
Fight Club's message hinged around a somewhat homoerotic S&M theme.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
As long as they add a GNAA tag too, I'll know it is all in good fun. After all, it is April 1st - everything's funny if today's posts are any indicators.
*pop*
:)
Heck, this UID isn't more valuable than any others really! However, I'd be posting from my other one (in the low 100k's), but I save that one for special occasions
If I hear the word "virtualization" one more time today, my head will explode.
"Now I'm waiting for wireless electricity and I'll be set!"
I recommend that you rent "Back to the Future" for pointers on how to get yourself going there. Doc had a pretty good flux capacitor modded up, not sure if you can get it still, though. Maybe try Newegg?
For those of you that want to emulate a cracker attack, I cannot recommended highly enough any of the ABBA albums out there. Turn that on amongst any non-crackers, and you will know rapidly how well things will hold up.
There are limits to this type of stress-testing, though - playing any "Rocky" movie will likely cause excessive bleeding from your ears. There's no reason to go overboard when cracker-testing.
Yeah - talk about a genius.
Rule #1 about selling iPods on eBay filled with copied music: don't talk about selling iPods on eBay filled with copied music.
Very true - however, from the standpoint of legal fees, etc, it wouldn't be a financially sound decision. Right or wrong, they would be able to outlast me in court, strictly from a financial standpoint. Thus, I called it good. Like I said though, perhaps this guy has more resources to keep up :)
I've had a bit of experience in this area, as the RIAA violated my copyright a couple of years ago by reprinting an article I wrote on intellectual property. Had it not been cited by the Washington Post I wouldn't have even been aware of it! Still they ended up distributing that material in a press packet, and of course it was all without permission. They ended up apologizing, but there wasn't really anything that I could do about it at that point.
:)
I suspect it'll be the same with this guy. His case is better than mine, I'd think, as he's got legal resources to some degree I'd think. However, my bet is that in terms of an overall payoff, all this is going to produce for him is perhaps some free press.
I wish him the best, regardless! Way to expose these folks
"Its easy to secure your network and if you cant do it then call someone to do it for you."
Who, like the neighbor kid in TFA who sent death threats via his "secured" network?
While I can secure my wireless network, I can understand how people would be leery about asking for help... especially with all of the FUD pieces out there like this article.
"Around" the time of Columbine?
Hey, I was born around the time that Vietnam was taking place, but that doesn't make me an expert on evacuation plans.
Richard Stallman without anger is like Diana Ross without the Supremes: both have less than stellar performances, and both still need new hairdressers.
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Considering the Spybot worm (not referring to the anti-spyware software) and the different ones out there that don't need user interaction after the first outbreak, I'm not surprised at all by this. In a lot of cases, even if just one box is infected on a subnet it'll often nail every unpatched box.
Consider this: 12 minutes after your Windows box is installed, are all of your patches finished?
Not a chance unless you're working off an image or have slipstreamed the hell out of everything somehow.
Thus, the numbers make sense.
I'm not saying that employers doing this are always making the right decisions when they go forward with ideas. Having to maintain a bad idea isn't any fun - but that still doesn't negate the reality that you are choosing to accept those circumstances.
I know it's not that easy to just walk, but at the same time - if you aren't enjoying your job or the company you are in, you *can* go somewhere else.