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AMD Papers Over Free Wi-Fi Network Builders

Glenn Fleishman writes "It's been widely reported in the last week that AMD, Intel's processor competitor, was launching a free hotspot network. It's come out, in reporting we just posted at Wi-Fi Networking News, that AMD has built this network by calling existing free hotspots and asking if they'd put stickers in their window. This might be fine: stickers and the label "AMD HotSpot" in exchange for promotion. However, in Austin several local wireless activists say that AMD has put their hotspot decals up in stores without the stores' permission, including at locations operated and supported by Austin Wireless City and Austin Unleashed. Guerrilla marketing gone overzealous? Or an attempt to seize the credit without paying for it?"

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  1. Hrm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Swiping free advertising? Doesn't seem like something a major company would do, especially considering this must cost AMD peanuts ....

  2. Did AMD reps put them up? by filekutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or does someone have the stickers? If you don't see them go up, you have no idea who actually is responsible.

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  3. Kinda reminds me of... by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This kind of reminds me of the Microsoft butterfly campaign in NYC. How much do you wanna bet this was the clueful idea of some champ in marketing? When will they learn?

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    1. Re:Kinda reminds me of... by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When will they learn?

      Never. The goal of marketing is to attract attention, and the most successful marketers are unfortunately the ones who are most annoying and do illegal practices. The key in breaking the rules is not being caught...

    2. Re:Kinda reminds me of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      How about a certain company and their wonderful "PEACE LOVE LINUX" campaign, which defaced buildings and sidewalks... oops wait. "Linux possibly defamed somewhere" trigger.

  4. Re:Whatever. by dekashizl · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Dude if the stores aren't even looking at who is putting stickers in their windows then they deserve to get them put up there.
    This (troll?) is analagous to the argument that anybody who doesn't keep their servers patched 100% up to date deserves to get hax0r3d. Not everybody has manpower to handle the server patching (not to mentioned downtime it creates), and not everybody can afford security guards and closed-cicruit video surveillance at their sites.
  5. what about the stores? by TheQuantumShift · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you let just anyone in and put up decals, where does the blame lie?
    "We'd like you to display our logo."
    "Um, no."
    "Ok, we'll just put them in that window over there."
    "Um, ok."

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    1. Re:what about the stores? by yomegaman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I swear if AMD were found to be sponsoring death squads and concentration camps some Slashdolts would find a way to rationalize it and say Intel is worse. What is with you people?

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  6. Are they all *FREE* hotspots? by EvilStein · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I get really tired of trying to find a hotspot on one of several hotspot maps only to find them all cluttered with Starbucks (TWELVE within one mile of my office) and McDonalds.

    The only free hotspot I know of in the area is a coffee shop on Bush & Kearny, and I patronize the shop over others because of the free 802.11 access.
    It's nice to have, and it does bring in the business.

  7. It just goes to show guerilla marketing is bad by Travoltus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you want quality, reputable marketing, you don't ask people to do it for free. You need paid, trained professionals who respect the law and who know good advertising etiquette (such that it is).

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  8. Hey, at least the AMD hotspots exist... by cbreaker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Even if they are just dealing with locals to use their wifi setups, it's better then the non-existant Intel "wireless world of centrino."

    As far as I can tell, all "centrino" is is a lower speed CPU notebook with a built in 802.11 board built in.

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    1. Re:Hey, at least the AMD hotspots exist... by osobear · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I recently attended a presentation at U of I by an AMD Senior VP who, when asked, said that all that centrino was was an expensive advertising campaign. Manufacturers/Assemblers got to put the "Centrino" sticker on their product if they buy both a CPU and 802.11 chip from Intel and therefore benefit from tv ads of people setting up desks in medows. Of course, this was an AMD VP talking....

  9. hmm.. licenced bandwidth by blade8086 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    don't get me wrong, I love my local free hotspots,
    but I wonder if these whiny coffeeshops are paying for a 'business grade' internet connection licenced for bandwidth sharing...

  10. Re:old news guys [OT] by Cecil · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You misunderstand completely. The only reason for that tagline is to advertise the anti-virus software. It would be retarded to filter your mail on such a silly criteria, and everyone knows it. It's an advertisement, just as much as the hotmail advertisement in my sig. No different.

    Why would a virus BOTHER to forge the certification? Do you see many spammers forging hotmail advertisements at the bottom of their messages when they have hotmail return addresses (but are clearly spamming through an open relay on a cable modem)? There's no point. No one cares. No one notices. No one even reads it.

  11. Re:Guerrilla marketing is hard to control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Or perhaps they were doing what I have
    done in the past:
    Advertise in places where it isn't allowed,
    then blame my "street team", who isn't
    a part of any organization and can't be
    penalized for it, then promise to
    tell them not to next time.

  12. IBM. AMD. Three letters. Any relationship? by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Guerrilla marketing gone overzealous?

    Three words: PEACE, LOVE, and LINUX.

    Ok, that's four words. :-)

  13. Employees by baudbarf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think an AMD rep walked into a store, and asked the guy at the counter if he could put a sticker up. The guy said yes. But the guy was just an employee, and the owner knew nothing about it.

    Later, the owner found the sticker, got mad, and complained without first asking his employees if they'd permitted the decal's application. Or, alternatively, the employee responsible decided not to fess up in order to better his chances at continued employment.

    In any case, I can't imagine an AMD guy walking into a store, slapping a sticker in the window, and leaving without clearing it first. A Microsoft guy would, certainly, but not an AMD guy.

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  14. Doesn't matter if you're caught by Flexagon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The key in breaking the rules is not being caught...

    It doesn't even matter if you get caught, if the penalty is low enough. And "low enough" can be quite high, with a marketing budget to back it up. It's just the cost of doing business.

    It reminds me of when California raised its fine for littering when they noticed that it was almost as cheap to pay the fine as to pay a city dump fee, and that was before applying the expected value of actually getting caught. In practice, it was much cheaper to litter, and more convenient even if you were caught every time.

  15. Am I misreading this? by ahkitj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Before I start, I don't mean to start some flamebait here. To me I just get the impression that AMD are desperately trying to play catch-up with Intel's Centrino campaign, and on the cheap. (Then again, despite an official list of 'certified' hotspots on their website, Intel aren't promoting it much.) And, alas, doing it wrong.

    Again, please tell me if I've read this wrong.

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