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Record Industry Sues 532 More U.S. File-Sharers

Patik writes "The RIAA today issued 532 new subpoenas for music file swapping, many of them college students using their campus networks. They will not say which ISPs or colleges were involved, but that the users were sharing "substantial amounts" of music files. This brings the total number of subpoenas to 1,977. The RIAA has been averaging $3,000 per settlement so far." Readers Digitus1337 and Warpedcow point to stories respectively at Wired and Reuters.

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  1. KLite by fodi · · Score: 3, Informative

    C'mon guys !! use Kazaa Lite, not the full version!! At least give yourselves a chance. And the best place to get Kazaa Lite these days is... yep, Kazaa !!!

    1. Re:KLite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Dont forget oldversion.com
      You can also pick up AOL 1.0 while your there.

    2. Re:KLite by mikechant · · Score: 2, Informative

      Klite (not some earlier versions however) has a couple of options which should help. The main one is "don't return list of all files for this user" so if they find you're sharing one particular file, they can't just "list files for this user" in order to determine that you are a "substantial infringer" (which is who they are going after). It would be interesting to know if anyone using Klite with this option has been "got" yet...

  2. List of Colleges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The list of colleges was included in the RIAA press release:

    The individuals included in today's legal action were on the networks of the following universities (listed in alphabetical order of state or name): University of Arizona; University of California, Berkeley; California State University -- Northridge; University of Colorado at Colorado Springs; Drexel University; George Mason University; George Washington University; Georgetown University; Indiana University; University of Indianapolis; Loyola Marymount University; Marquette University; University of Maryland; University of Michigan; New York University; University of Northern Colorado; University of Pennsylvania; University of Southern California; Stanford University; Vanderbilt University; and Villanova University.

    http://www.cpwire.com/archive/2004/3/23/1540.asp

  3. Re:Right on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is valuable to me ... just not *that* valuable.

  4. RIAA Radar by Lord+of+Ironhand · · Score: 4, Informative
    For those who don't know it yet: RIAA Radar is a great solution for anyone who still wants to buy CD's but not support the RIAA.

    Remember: spread the word, but don't sound like a fanatic.

  5. Re:Great.... by Drantin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe they used a computer to print out seperate forms for each one? The restriction was against all-in-one subpoenas IIRC...

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  6. For those looking for some privacy: by Killswitch1968 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mute has been making some substantial gains. Even if it's not 100% bulletproof, it's still small enough that the RIAA doesn't bother with it when there are bigger fish to fry such as Kazaa and Mp2p.

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  7. Re:Time is against them by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I didn't say it was terrorism ya fool. I say the math they're usuing to get the desired effect isn't far removed from the math that terrorists use to get us. Just for the record, the RIAA et al. are well within their rights to prosecute people for illegal copyright infringements.

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  8. Re:Time is against them by Niten · · Score: 4, Informative

    The American Heritage Dictionary's definition of the word "terrorize" includes:

    terrorize n. 2. To coerce by intimidation or fear.

    And that, essentially, is what the Recording Industry is achieving with these lawsuits. Right or wrong, they cannot possibly sue everybody who illegally redistributes their music over the popular file sharing networks; the best they can hope to accomplish is to file suit against enough people to scare the rest into submission. I believe that this is what the grandparent poster meant by calling the RIAA's methods "a weak terrorist-like tactic".

    (I do agree with you, though - the word "terrorism" is unbelievably overused nowadays.)

  9. getting kazzalite versions by hypermike · · Score: 2, Informative
    Get every version of kazaalite at oldversion.com!

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  10. RIAA to host online chat with college newspapers by noindiecred · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm an editor at the my college's newspaper. I received this in my inbox today from The Collegiate Presswire:

    EDITOR'S NOTE: The president of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) is hosting an exclusive online chat with college editors and reporters this Wednesday, March 24, at 5 PM Eastern. The conference will focus on issues of music piracy on college campuses, and will have an interactive Q&A session.

    Registration is free. To attend, go to http://cpnewslink.collegepublisher.com at the specified time, and click on "Enter Chat Room". Your email address can be used as your login name, and the conference password is "music".

    Looks like the new lawsuits are just a part of a well-planned campaign to strike fear into us immoral college students. I guess this "conference" will consist mostly of the RIAA spewing propaganda with the hope that the editors and reporters in the chat will carry it back to their publications.

    This news is very depressing. Shame on the RIAA for suing students! They could at least go after people who can afford the court fees.

    I've found this site to be a good source of free downloadable MP3s. Gotta go grab more in light of this recent news ;)

  11. Re:do these guys fight back? by Calvinh0560 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most of these people can't fight back. It takes alot of money just to hire someone and show up in court let alone all the time needed before hand. $3,000 is cheap compair what it will cost to fight this and in the end you may still end up owning the RIAA.

  12. Re:$3000 per settlement??? by kaden · · Score: 4, Informative
    Eh, having worked for a law firm, costs are considerable. They have to hire local counsel for various reasons (for example, bar membership), so there goes the "attorneys on retainer" theory. I can't imagine why an attorney would take this kind of a case on contingency, so the RIAA is paying them whether they recover or not. Each suit has to be drafted, then courts charge $50-$250 for every suit filed, then I imagine the local counsel has to appear and ask the judge for permission to subpoena the ISP for the Defendent's name, then there's the cost of getting the defendent served, then the time the attorney or a paralegal spends hacking out a settlement. All of that really adds up, then there's the money the RIAA has to invest in picking out people to sue and hiring local lawyers, then tracking the payments (I doubt many people can pay a $3,000 settlement out of their pocket, they have to pay in installments).

    They might break even if everyone settled, but again, having worked in a law firm, I know there are a lot of people who just can't pay or be tracked down.

  13. OBVIOUS TRUTH is mp3 is a LOSSY CODEC by bechthros · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well God knows, time was you could actually hear good music for free on the radio. But the RIAA took care of that already.

    But that's beside the point. I'm assuming you know the difference between MP3 and PCM. How can you say that one is "re-getting" something when the two codecs are so dissimilar? Is one "re-getting" something when you buy a CD of something you taped off the radio? No, because you are buying it in a different and superior format. And yes, I now own *dozens* of CD's that I wouldn't were it not for P2P. I can't speak for anybody but myself.

    You know what I wonder? I wonder how many of you "stealing-is-stealing" people have had dual cassette decks.

  14. Re:Good odds, keep sharing! by brandorf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Allofmp3.com is 100% legal, in Russia. Here is their stated legal info: All the materials in the MediaServices projects are available for distribution through Internet according to license # LS-3-03-79 of the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society. Under the license terms, MediaServices pays license fees for all the materials subject to the Law of the Russian Federation "On Copyright and Related Rights". All the materials are available solely for personal use and must not be used for further distribution, resale or broadcasting. Users are held liable for the use and distribution of the MediaServices site information materials according to local legislation.

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  15. Re:$3000 per settlement??? by pbjones · · Score: 2, Informative

    they are asking $3000 to settle out of court or about $100 per song they will be asking if it gets to court.

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  16. Re:I wasn't aware by holizz · · Score: 2, Informative

    "I mean if someone's accused they MUST be guilty, right?"

    That's what the Ian Huntley case seems to be saying to me. He had accusations on his file therefore he's automatically a sex-offender. It turned out that he was but if somebody really wanted to they could ruin somebody's career by getting a few people to accuse a teacher, for example, of sex crimes then as far as I see it that person won't get a job if the accusations stay on their record.

  17. Re:So lets honeypot them.. then sue em for $500m by jsebrech · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ok lets make a dir of 100000 files of everysone possible. Faked.

    Make an app that generates these files then shares them.

    If 100000 people run it, (well not only will we get 'bad' fake files, but RIAA might start sueing) then you can sue them for wrongfull sue.

    At least it would use up all their resources if suddendly 50000 people have 100000 files each.


    You'd have to mix them in with the regular shared files in such a way that it's not possible to recognize which are real and which are fake, or the RIAA would recognize the fakes and not do anything about them.

    At that point, you decrease the effectiveness of the filesharing network so dramatically it becomes inherently useless.

  18. Stop downloading music! by Xebikr · · Score: 2, Informative

    I never download music anymore. When I want the latest CD I go right to my local library and rip it with CDex. No P2P software required!

  19. What I don't understand.... by Joe5678 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is what would happen if you went out and bought all the CD's that you were accused of downloading? Couldn't you then say that you were simply downloading digital backups to listen to on your computer?