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Backward Compatibility in Next-Gen Consoles?

jvm writes "A new article at Curmudgeon Gamer speculates on the prospects for backward compatibility in the upcoming generation of video game consoles. Sony's PlayStation 3 will reportedly play both PSOne and PlayStation 2 games, but how it will achieve this is unknown. Building from the facts we know and the rumored specifications, can we look forward to replaying Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker on the GameCube 2 and Halo on the Xbox 2?"

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  1. Doubtful... by lortho · · Score: 2, Informative

    Assuming previous reports are true, it's unlikely...

  2. PS1 compat will be software emulation by News+for+nerds · · Score: 5, Informative

    This news article in Japanese, dated 2003/07/15, report that SCEI announced recruitment of PlayStation emulator developers. (The official link at SCEI is http://www.scei.co.jp/synthesis/career/careerpro10 8.html, though it's already gone. Geez, I submit this story before in the last summer to Slashdot but rejected)

    What is required for those who apply the recruitment was 1. Experience in emulator making 2. Knowledge about Just-In-Time compiler 3. Knowledge about CPU micro-architecture, and recommended is "experience in debugging existing game titles".

    For PS2 compat in PS3, 1-chip EE/GS a la PS1 in PS2, for co-processor in PS3, or something hardware/software mix, will be safe bet.

  3. GC will feature backward compatibility... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 4, Informative

    Must we tread the same ground over and over again? Nintendo has already indicated more than once that their next machine will be backwards compatible with the GC. A quick Google turned up this.

    Sony has also confirmed compatibilty with the PSX and PS2. The Register has the story here.

    The only wildcard is Microsoft, who seem to be leaving some of the important hardware specs to the last minute in an effort to meet or beat Sony. It is very unlikely that the Xbox Next, or whatever they're are going to call it, will be backward compatible given the facts that the machine will lack a hard drive, has moved to a different microprocessor family (IBM), entirely new graphics chip from ATI, and a redesigned controller without the black and white buttons.

    In my opinion, I find the lack of backwards compatibility very telling -- almost an admission from Microsoft that the current Xbox strategy is a failure. Quite a pity, I really do enjoy my Xbox and backwards compatibility would have cinched me as a customer of the next machine.

    1. Re:GC will feature backward compatibility... by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sony has also confirmed compatibilty with the PSX and PS2. The Register has the story

      If you actually read the story in the Register, you should notice that the actual quotes never once say the PS3 will be compatible with the PS1.

      "a matter of security... [PS2] offers a sense of insurance because it is compatible with PSone and DVD-Movies."

      The insertion of PS2 is The Register's, so we have no idea what it said there, but this isn't discussing the PS3.

      "PSone runs on the PlayStation 2 through emulation rather than actual hardware. PlayStation 3 will offer the same compatibility for PS2 software and the format will continue forever,"

      Here the "format" could simply be support for the previous generation. It isn't clear, but the actual statement supports this interpretation, perhaps better than the interpretation that the PS3 will support the PS1, because the latter is never stated.

      The clarification that the Register is looking for only comes from the Register's own statements. Given their standards of reporting and their noticable lack of quotes actually stating the PS3 will be compatable with the PS1, the only thing we can really deduce from the article is that the PS3 will be compatable with the PS2.

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  4. PS1 development did NOT stop with PS2 by Ayaress · · Score: 4, Informative

    Final Fantasy IX, Valkyrie Profile, so on and so forth. All PS1 games, but released during the PS2 era. PS1-compatible games were released well into 2003 (could even be ones this year, but I don't know). In fact, at least a few games that are marketed as PS2 and carry the PS2 mark on the package have been found to be PS1 compatible.

    Also, PS1 games still sell quite well. They can't get a PS1 console as cheap as you say they can, it's hard to find in the stores, and you can't play PS2 games with it.

    Sony still makes money from PS1 game sales, but PS1 console sales are pretty much done with. SNES games continued being produced until 1999. Playstation games date back to, what, 1995? Thusly:

    I challenge you to find a single SNES game from 1996 (pretty much the last year they were produced in the US) in a retail store (new, not used). While you're at it, go to the developers and try to order one. Can't do it, eh? Now, try to find a PS1 game from that year. Quite easy. You can probably buy thirty of them just by driving around a few retail stores.

    Hell, the Target here in Saginaw has an entire isle still dedicated to PS1 games (more shelf space than for PS2), and this isn't a big town for game sales. They dedicate an enitre end-of-isle rack to GB/GBC games as well, and they sell.

    The games are cheap to produce. The games that will turn a profit already have, so it's basically just covering the cost of production (what, 14 cents for the disk, maybe 50 for the case? Sell for a dollar and you make a profit, and they usually sell for $5 to $20).

  5. Re:it's just a selling point, nothing more... by bludstone · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, thats debatable too.

    You can find a used ps2 for 90$

    90$ for a cd player, dvd player, ps1 player, and ps2 player, all in one.

    Not only that, but for 20$ you can get 100+ HOURS of entertainment off of a single ps2 game. (ffx)

    Now, if you cant afford FOOD, I wouldnt reccomend a ps2 (duh.) But in a cost/benifit analysis, ps2's and the games provide TONS of entertainment at a very low cost.

    For the record, I think people who buy consoles on release date are nutbags. I usually wait until the first price drop before buying a console.

    I got my ps2 the week it dropped to 170.

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  6. Re:Shelf space, dvd capabilities. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Japan is notoriously xenophobic. The "not made here" thinking can very well be part of why the Xbox isnt selling.