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HP to Globally Launch Linux-Based PCs

Rade T. writes "Reuters UK reports that HP, the No. 1 personal computer and computer printer maker, said on Wednesday that its putting its weight behind personal computers that run the Linux operating system. I guess this is the first serious step towards solving the problems that Linux faces on the Desktop/Laptop."

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  1. pf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    pist forst?

  2. Buy with a conscience by Mr.+Darl+McBride · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    I feel compelled to remind people that HP is currently one of the leaders in outsourcing tech jobs.

    I'm not suggesting you do or don't buy a PC because of that. But I do feel that data point should be out there for US Slashdotters. Your dollar is at an alarming low compared to other currencies, your job market is a shambles, and these actions are arguably not helping things along.

    1. Re:Buy with a conscience by dreamchaser · · Score: 3, Offtopic

      Our job market is in shambles? A 5.6% unemployment rate is NOT shambles. Also, as a hiring manager in IT I can certainly attest to the fact that there are IT jobs being filled in the States, too.

      I know this is offtopic, and feel free to mod me as such. I just can't let FUD like that stand on it's own merit without some clarification.

      I'm not fond of seeing jobs go overseas, but that's the price of free trade sometimes. There are also about 6 million jobs in the US for foreign companies (names like Sony come to mind, plus many more).

    2. Re:Buy with a conscience by LWATCDR · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Actually the company I work for is trying to hire phone support techs and a programmer or two. We can not find them. The programmer we got with a shinny degree did not know what a hash table was. He also did not know what the STL was, or how to program in perl or java. He had a limited knowlege of c++ but we spent months teaching him.
      It might just be the area I am in but finding phone techs is not easy. No I am not in India and it is very unlikly we will ever outsource. We find having the support people right next to the programers the best way to provide really good support.

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    3. Re:Buy with a conscience by dR.fuZZo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      A 5.6% unemployment rate is NOT shambles.

      If you've watched or read any stories about unemployment over, oh, I don't know, the last year or so, you've probably heard it said that the unemployment rate is artificially low because of people who stop looking for work and because of underemployment (e.g., folks with degrees getting laid off from tech companies and taking jobs flipping burgers.)

      I could post you the number of real jobs lost over the last few years (hint: ends in "millions") but I'm sure you can go google it yourself.

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    4. Re:Buy with a conscience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      There are also about 6 million jobs in the US for foreign companies (names like Sony come to mind, plus many more).
      I used to work one of those Sony jobs. It sucked, they treat their employees like serfs.
  3. of concern to all Debian users... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It seems there's been another server compromise on Debian.org, but this one hasn't been reported outside of the innermost Debian members. It seems they think they caught it soon enough and all source code was unaffected. Still, this makes you wonder what's up with all of these server compromises of late. I for one hope that a common thread is found so they can stop these, I'm afraid to run apt-get now!

    f5k3r

    1. Re:of concern to all Debian users... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Amazing, I can't believe this has happened again. Maybe they'll need to add this to the 'are we losing members to Gentoo thread'. Seriously, if you can't count on Debian code being clean, what can you do? Just use something like cds from Slackware, and then just do all security updates from source; still, that'd be a hassle.

      Mikezzz

  4. MOD PARENT +1 INTERESTING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It's true. I wouldn't

    want a Linux computer.

  5. This is great news! by Krik+Johnson · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I recently installed Mandrake 10.0, and although it is still the community version with a few minor bugs, but ar being fixed, I can honestly say that Linux really is ready for the desktop. KDE 3.2 is wonderful, all my hardware works, hundreds of games and software packages and more. If you haven't tried a KDE 3.2 based distro such as Mandrake 10.0, SuSE 9.1, Gentoo 2004 or the soon to be released Slackware 10.0, please try it out and you will see why HP and others are rushing to bring out the latest Linux based desktop machines! P.S. If you have propreitery windows applications that you need to run, try crossover offfice! So get your self linux today and join me and THOUSANDS of Slashdot readers today in the Linux community!

  6. John "Eff'ing" Kerry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Over the past week, the New York Sun and the Kansas City Star have been reporting another unsavory story about John Kerry's antiwar past. Witnesses and FBI meeting minutes conclusively place Kerry at an event he has always denied attending: The November 1971 meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) in Kansas City, in which a plan to assassinate pro-war senators was discussed. How seriously the plan was debated is in dispute; some veterans say it was nothing more than "guys ticked off and talking big at midnight," while others remember a bitter confrontation over the idea. All agree, however, that Kerry was not involved in the discussions and would never have approved of such a plan.

    Nevertheless, the Kerry campaign is eager to distance itself from one of VVAW's most notorious episodes. Now that the evidence of his attendance is overwhelming, the campaign is trying to chalk up its earlier denials to faulty memory. Late last week Kerry spokesman David Wade conceded that Kerry had been there, but clung to the contention that the senator simply didn't remember the meeting. Wade's description of the Kansas City meeting as a "historical footnote" was too clever by half -- if the meeting and Kerry's attendance really were footnotes, the campaign would never have cared about the story in the first place.

    On Monday, the Sun reported on a former VVAW member who claims Kerry operatives urged him to change his story about Kerry's presence in Kansas City. John Musgrave, a Marine who earned three Purple Hearts in Vietnam, claims that John Hurley, head of Veterans for Kerry, asked him to call back the Star reporter he had spoken with and "tell him you were wrong." Hurley insists he only asked Musgrave "to be very sure of his recollection." Apparently this simple instruction required two phone calls to impart.

    The Kansas City story has emerged at the same time that the FBI has revealed it conducted surveillance on Kerry during 1971 and 1972, when he was rising to fame as an antiwar spokesman. The FBI monitored the Kansas City meeting as well, though it's not clear if it picked up the chatter about assassination plots. When informed of the FBI story recently, Kerry unleashed his practiced moral indignation, harumphing about civil liberties and the sad abuses of power of the Hoover-era FBI: "I'm surprised by [the] extent of it. I'm offended by the intrusiveness of it. And I'm disturbed that it was all conducted absent of some showing of any legitimate probable cause [italics mine]. It's an offense to the Constitution. It's out of order." Then the Kerry campaign trotted out more of its defiant, desperate macho, claiming that the FBI revelation was "a badge of honor."

    Kerry has not explained why the FBI was wrong to spy on meetings where political assassinations were being discussed. If that isn't "legitimate probable cause," what is? The senator likes to bluster about President Bush's supposed failures on homeland security, and perhaps he is worth heeding on that score. After all he, not our hopelessly provincial president, has real-world experience with groups threatening violent action. He should make the most of it. Perhaps a line can be worked into his stump speeches, right after the line about aircraft carriers: "I know something about assassination plots, too."

    ANOTHER QUESTION THAT COMES to mind is whether Kerry felt any obligation to report the plot to authorities. Under certain conditions, knowing about such a plan -- even a plan that was probably half-baked at best -- and not reporting it could be a crime in itself. Gerald Nicosia, the author of Home to War, a largely positive treatment of the VVAW, absolves Kerry of any responsibility: "I think if the thing ever got off the ground, Kerry would do something to stop it." Still, it would be worthwhile for someone to ask Kerry directly, if only because Kerry would provide at least two answers to choose from.

    For those opposed to Kerry's presidential ambitions or troubled by his conduct after returning home from Vietnam, the K

  7. MOD PARENT UP +5 THE TRUTH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    doooo it.

  8. Nice by AvengerXP · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Now the crappiest OS meet the crappiest PCs. Ok now maybe not the crappiest, 2nd crappiest. Bluelights take the 1st prize.

    Not Anon, because i believe every single word of it.

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  9. THE CREEPING FEAR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    New Star Wars title w00t!

  10. you should have been blocked forever by nurb432 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The outsourcing of jobs is appalling, as is others coming from other countries to suck off our wealth and generosity.

    We have been so giving for so long people EXPECT the handouts..

    Its time to turn off the 'welcome' sign on Lady Liberty, and send all you people back to where you came from. We don't need you.

    And yes, I expect to be moderated into oblivion, but I'm not the only one that feels this way so deal with it.

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    1. Re:you should have been blocked forever by thesupraman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You complete moron.

      Did you actually read my posting? do you have some grasp of the english language?

      look, what I was saying is that my country allowed a group of AMERICANS to come HERE and work for 6 months, in highly paid jobs, effectively taking jobs from our people, however we welcomed them with open arms, treated them well, and did everything to make that a good stay.

      Then the same people, when I was going to the US simple to TRAIN them so THEY could do a job over there, blocked my entry and renneged on their contract. In the end they couldn't do the job themselves anyway, so your precious US people ended up losing work over this.

      In my country, that is considered a pretty damn stupid thing to do, maybe it's just business as usual in the good ole US of A.

      Believe it or not there are things other countries can do better than the US. It is safe to say that I will not be entering into further contracts in the US, therefore business opportunities will be lost in your precious country. This is no problem for me, I have plenty of customers elsewhere wanting my services.

      And anyone who thinks this is off topic, think a little deeper. The topic here is a company who has actually got the good sense to offer an alternative to a *proven* monopoly. It would also seem that they have the common sense to have work done in the places where it can be best done. GOOD ON THEM!. I, as someone who strongly believes in REAL equalities and fairness, strongly applaud their actions.