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Dolemite_the_Wiz writes "The BBC reports that Monty Python's 'Life of Brian' will be re-released, with the remaining Python troupe's full support, in US theaters next month. The Film's Distributor, Rainbow Film Company are marketing the film as an alternative to all the hype that Mel Gibson's film 'The Passion of the Christ' has generated. Trailers for the Film will begin running in theaters on Good Friday. Wait until Biggus Dickus hears about this!"

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  1. Good idea !!! by chmouel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think this is a great thing to take that as humoristic rather than serious.

    1. Re:Good idea !!! by corbettw · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It would have been a great occasion to show Jesus as an human with great ideas and a good philosophy, but this time, Mel failed to show this.

      "The Passion of the Christ" was about the Passion of the Christ. Not His teachings, not His philosophy. It was strictly about His Passion. The last 12 hours of His life, during which He was brutalized and executed. As for whether anyone could survive the level of damage done to Jesus during his flogging, I don't know if a normal human could have done so. But Jesus willed it that He would survive the flogging, so that He would die on the cross as the prophets had foretold. Afterall, when you're God in the flesh, you can survive pretty much anything.

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    2. Re:Good idea !!! by DRUNK_BEAR · · Score: 3, Insightful
      yes... talking about context, having seen the movie helps getting and idea of the context.

      Now to add to what I said, Jesus was the son of God, granted. But the son of God was given to us in the human form. And what I said is that it seems humanly impossible (Health science people correct me if I'm wrong) to survive the first few steps of what Mel depicted as the passion of Christ, thus removing the human portion of Jesus and leaving only the Son of God part. Which I consider as a big failure from Mel's part. His other movies, even though exaggerated still, were not as bad as this one (again, this is my opinion and I welcome comments proving the opposite as I haven't probably seen all movies in which Mel played or directed or produced but I saw at least a good few)

      So this is my idea of the context.

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    3. Re:Good idea !!! by Golias · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Those helped depicting Jesus as an humain being (which He was, even if He was the son of God) but in my opinion, the movie was a bit too much centered on the brutal part and I found that little importance were given to Jesus' actions.

      As important and interesting as the Sermon on the Mount might be to a philosphy student, and as signifigant as the Clensing of the Temple might be to a historian... to a Christian, the Passion & Resurrection was the single most important action of Jesus. Christianity is defined by this sacrifice. His teachings were hardly novel... most of the time he was just quoting scripture, or telling parables to reinforce Judaic ethics. The concept of salvation by Grace (bought be Christ's sacrifice) is pretty much the only thing at all unique about Christianity.

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    4. Re:Good idea !!! by Kris+Thalamus · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Do you think that Jesus had magical powers (Hint: the church considers magic a black art)

      Yes, the church also condemns smiting, but YHWH was purported to have done a fair share of smiting back in the day.

      I understood that Jesus' disciples claimed that he could turn water into wine, walk on water, and resurrect Lazarus. If those aren't magical powers, then you and I have a different definition of magic.
    5. Re:Good idea !!! by pianophile · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "scholars disagree"? Are there any scholars anywhere who believe any of Jesus' teaching came from Buddhism?

      There are some interesting parallels in some of the writings, and Buddha did appear first chronologically, and his missionaries did move west as far as Alexandria, so...

      There is proof, of course, but it makes for some interesting food for thought.

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    6. Re:Good idea !!! by shaneb11716 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Now to add to what I said, Jesus was the son of God, granted.

      Well, that wasn't a given until Constantine and the Council of Nicaea said it was so around 325AD!!!

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    7. Re:Good idea !!! by corbettw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So much about dying on the cross ...

      Umm, you do realize He rose again on the third day, right? And there's nothing saying He didn't wander around the world, teaching others His lessons, after He had done so. He did say, afterall, He had "other sheep" that He would tend to. The challenge is, are the teachings that were passed down and supposedly attributed to Him contracdictory with other things He said in the Gospels? Most of the time, they are, which means it was probably someone else saying them and trying to cash in on His fame.

      As for God following the rules of logic, I believe St. Paul answered this when he wrote that God's wisdom confounds the wise (that is, His reasoning is beyond our own, He does things for his own reasons and we may not understand them). Besides, there's more to being omnipotent than just doing whatever you want, when you want. God might have the ability to destroy the universe, but doing so would run counter to His character, for example.

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  2. A bomb? What are you giving him a bomb for? by deman1985 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I never got the chance to see the movies on the big screen, so it will certainly be an interesting experience to have it in theaters again. I can only imagine the kind of crowds it will draw, though :)

  3. When it was originally released... by rokzy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    there was a heated debate on TV between Palin and some religious guy.

    Have religious people took the stick out their ass, or will there be more criticism?

    1. Re:When it was originally released... by jwthompson2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There will be lots of criticism from the likes of Pat Robertson and Falwell and the sort, but I, even as a southern baptist, appreciate this movie, considering it doesn't mock Christ as much as some might think...

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    2. Re:When it was originally released... by rokzy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      atheism is not a religion. there are many types of atheism, but basically it's about not *believing* in God, NOT believing there isn't a God. there is a difference.

      agnosticism is a cop-out, a type of atheism for cowards. either you believe, or you don't, and if you don't believe you're a type of atheist.

    3. Re:When it was originally released... by jwthompson2 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I think you and the other people who echo your sentiments are dead on to what 'Life of Brian' is really mocking. I would disagree on one issue:

      ... rather than presenting a common front based on the 95% of their beliefs that co-incide.


      As a southern baptist, and I include that mostly as a disclaimer, I would say there is a vast bit more difference than you imply. The issue of whether homosexuals, women and divorcees should be allowed and to what extent and in what roles they should be allowed to serve in ministry is a big deal, because the Bible makes it an issue. Also, the inerrancy of scripture and the greater doctrine of 'sola scriptura' is a big deal. Many denominations however are wavering on these issues and many others. I would agree though that some issues shouldn't divide us as much as they do, Armenianism vs. Calvinism produces flamewars beyond the comprehension of /.ers as does the debates over eschatology and church polity issues. I would agree with you that we are probably more divided as a faith than necessary, but some issues are worth fighting for and as a Christian should be fought for, otherwise we risk losing something very important, the truth in favor of opinions and feelings.

      I inserted a real religious post, may the flamewar begin and my karma plummit...
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    4. Re:When it was originally released... by jbert · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, but the NNTON album (yes, "long playing vinyl, 33rpm) is on the shelf in another town, so I should go and grab it sometime

      Comedy gold, pure comedy gold.

      Do the yanks get any "Not the Nine o'clock News"? Is it too dated anyway?

      "Wild? I was livid!"

      Doesn't get any better than that...

    5. Re:When it was originally released... by iworm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hooray for Richard Dawkins:

      "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thoughts it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

    6. Re:When it was originally released... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Being able to define good is a big part of what being all-powerful is all about.


      Omnipotence doesn't have the power to define good. Omnipotence, at best, has the power to declare good, or make someone think that something is good. But anybody is free to define something however they like (assuming an omnipotent being isn't preventing them from doing so); just because a definition comes from God doesn't make that definition universally true.
    7. Re:When it was originally released... by glpierce · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sorry, but as someone who has studied this quite a bit, I can say with confidence that you are completely incorrect and are basing your statements on popular conception rather than facts.

      Atheism is the lack of belief in a god. While many atheists are "anti-god" that does not alter the definition of the word. A baby is an atheist because it cannot conceive the existence of god, and therefore cannot believe in it.

      Agnostics believe in a higher power, but not the Christian God. The I-don't-want-to-think-about-it description is what is often called agnosticism, but it most certainly is not (American dictionaries tend to follow popular, rather than historical definitions). Check the roots of the word.

      Atheists only tend to be from religious backgrounds because most people are from religious backgrounds. 85-90% of the US is theist, and atheists come from all parts of the population, so the numbers are skewed. Violent rejection of religion is the often the media portrayal, and you notice it because it is visible; people who quitely slip away from faith don't give much indication for you to pick up on.

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    8. Re:When it was originally released... by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Nope, Atheist are more anti-god, stating firmly that god doesn't exist.

      Not according to atheists themselves. There is no need to state firmly that god doesn't exist, since nonexistance of a thing is the default hypothesis for ANY proposed thing. (Becuase it's the only reasonably falsifiable hypothesis. If a thing exists, evidence can be found in theory (if not then that is functionally equivilent to not existing). If a thing doesn't exist, evidence can't demonstrate it - things that don't exist don't leave behind evidence. So the hypothesis that god is existant is not falsifiable, but the hypothesis that god doesn't exist *is* falsifiable.

      So, in other words, atheism isn't a belief becuase the burden of proof is 100% on the one who believes in god. Atheism is merely the default stance.

      And your post conflates religion with belief in god. They are not the same thing. Buddhism is a religion, but doesn't require belief in god. And someone who believes in god, but doesn't follow any one of the standard organized groups that are dedicated to that purpose is theistic, but not religious.

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    9. Re:When it was originally released... by Lost+Race · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Where do you get these ideas? From your priest?

      I'm an atheist because I see no direct evidence of any gods. IMO, there is no good reason to believe that any particular accounts of any god are true, and lots of good reasons to believe those accounts are fictitious.

      I don't believe in any god because I have no reason to believe in any god. I can't prove that no god exists, the entire concept just seems silly. I don't argue about gods, I don't violently reject religion, and I'm not from a religious background. By your criteria I'm an agnostic.

      My wife is agnostic. She's pretty sure there is a god of some kind but she doesn't know much about it. No faith, no religion, just some direct brief contact with a godlike entity that was enough to convince her it exists in some form.

      My labels, "atheist" and "agnostic", are consistent with how people label themselves. Yours are not.

  4. Re:Re Re Re released by Anita+Coney · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have you ever seen a movie in a theater?! I have, it's a heck of a lot better than watching it at home. Thus, THAT'S the advantage of re-releasing a movie to the theater. We get a chance, or a second chance, to see a great movie on a large screen.

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  5. Re:Re Re Re released by sisco · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are plenty of products on the market that prove that consumers do not act logically. Why else would people pay hundreds of dollars for a stuffed animal (a.k.a. beanie baby)???

    Or why do people trade most of their tax return in order to get credit to lease a car, that they will wind up paying wayyy more than what it is worth.

    Heck, I don't even make logical economical decisions all the time. Besides which, this offers the opportunity to go out and see it in the theatre... a potential good time with all your friends.

    anyway, point being... consumers aren't always logical.

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  6. Monty Python by eXtro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    have always been the masters of irreverence. The silly and sometimes seemingly lame sketches have always just been a veneer over them thumbing their noses at God, Queen and Country, bureaucracy, castes and whatever else they thought deserved a bit of a dressing down. Satire was their means of writing an indignant letter to the editor.

    I know in Canada This Hour has 22 Minutes fills a similar role, what American comedy troups or performers do this in the U.S.?

  7. Grail schmail by sketi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Call me flamebait, but I always thought Life of Brian was the Pythons' best work. Highly underrated, IMO.

  8. Re:Re Re Re released by xThinkx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With as much crap as is released today, I'll gladly contribute my share to all of the folks who contributed to making and re-releasing this movie. I never understood why "timeless classics" stop playing in theaters. How many times have you wanted to go see a movie, in a theater (for a date, or just to get out of the house) and ended up watching something terrible like "scooby doo" because nothing good was playing? Life of Brian in the theaters will be an event to remember. Screw dressing up for star wars (every theatrical release of star wars post 1990 has been disappointing), I'm going to dig up my "Big Nose" costume.

    Hail theathar! and Welease Wodewik!

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  9. Re:Re Re Re released by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Nothing like the theatre experience. Frigid temperatures, people talking behind you, people trying to get by at the best parts, projectionist who falls asleep at the reel change, overpriced tickets, popcorn, soda and candy, sticky floors, long lines all to see a comedy? Star Wars, Matrix, Jurassic Park - these are movies that are much better in the theatre. For watching a comedy with zero special effects and stereo sound there is nothing better then the couch.

  10. People called Roman, they go towards the house? by Thedalek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a thinking Christian (Yes, such can and do exist), I never really had a problem with Life of Brian. It contains nothing which denies or detracts from the life and acts of Jesus, and accurately portrays the unthinking masses in a clever and thought provoking way.

    Really, the whole point of the film is that an awful lot of people believe things without fully thinking them through.

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    1. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by FiloEleven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's obvious that the irony is understood, otherwise the inclusion of the parenthetical statement "Yes, such can and do exist" would have been omitted. It seems to me that you're the unthinking one in this exchange, as you've labelled the original poster as one of the many blindly believing masses when he clearly stated (and you quoted) that he wasn't. Or are you really so stupid as to believe that no Christians have reasoned through their faith and still have it?

    2. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by admiralh · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Indeed. Christianity though, is based on the fact of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

      Wow, "fact" is the worst misspelling of the word "myth" that I've ever seen.

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    3. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by mdwebster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's funny, because for me Occam's Razor would seem to suggest the simplest conclusion based on what we generally know to be possible (ie dead people don't come back to life). Otherwise the Razor would tell us things like "The dish was cleaned by a magical cleaning fairy while in the dishwasher" vs. the much-more complicated truth involving water pressure, heat and soap.

      So then the argument becomes whether there is an non-supernatural explanation for the events you listed.

      - His tomb never became a shrine.
      This seems to me to cut both ways. Why didn't it? Look! Jesus's tomb and it's empty! Wow, he really did rise from the dead!
      - Noone could produce the body.
      I'm taking your word here, but assuming that is true, what's wrong with the possibility that the tomb was robbed? Perhaps even by one or more of his followers in order that they might claim that he rose from the dead?
      - His followers were transformed.
      Maybe they were just eloquent scam-artists. Or maybe the majority of his followers genuinely believe based on the testimony of the few.

      Also to say that the Bible has historical significance and that it contains certain historical facts does not automatically vet everything written therein. At best it gives the unprovable portions slightly more credibility than they might otherwise enjoy, but they're still unprovable.

      Regardless, my own personal belief in Jesus would more revolve around his message than his actual personage. The important personage bits (like rising from the dead) can only be accepted by faith either way.

    4. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by admiralh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As for the resurrection of Jesus, the burden of proof is not on those who believe it happened - it's on the sceptic.

      Sorry, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

      In short, to say Jesus didn't exist as a real historical figure who was executed during the Passover ceremony for blasphemy is exactly the kind of unscientific nonsense and blind faith that most often levelled against Christians.

      You are putting words in my post that weren't there. I never said that Jesus wasn't a historical person. What I said was "myth" was the resurrection of Jesus Christ. There are lots of more mundane reasons for being unable to produce Jesus's body, such as the followers stealing it and hiding it where the authorities couldn't find it.

      Occam's razor leads to a scary conclusion. For me it did anyway - Jesus was who he said he was.

      Did Jesus really say he was the Messiah? That is a debate that biblical scholars are still having today. Most of that came from John, which is by far the most "out there" of the Gospels w.r.t. earthly vs. supernatural events.

      The whole point of Occam's Razor is that you don't accept the extraordinary (read supernatural) explanations (e.g. resurrection, reincarnation, alien abduction) if there are more mundane explanations that explain the facts. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And the preponderance of evidence for the resurrection of Christ comes from people who had a vested interest in the resurrection being true.

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    5. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by jsebrech · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe the point of all the gore was making people realise what "he died for our sins" exactly means.

    6. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by WalterSobchak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The death and torture of Jesus is important. But the extreme focus on this distorts the view -- in my very humble opinion.
      "Evangelium" is the "Good News". I feel the slice that Gibon gives us is mostly suitable for inflicting feelings of guilt, or aggression. Not much good news there.

      Alex

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    7. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by Rostin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Until I see such logical proof of this or any other religion, I shall continue to label all followers as "blindly believing masses".

      Why are Christians (or any other religious people) obligated to prove to you that their beliefs are true before you concede the possibility that they are not all "blindly believing masses?" Why does my rationality (in your mind) depend on my ability to prove something to you?

      Let's say for the sake of argument that you are the only sighted person in a society of totally blind people. You try as hard as you can to explain to the blind people that there are such things as light and color, but the skeptics insist that you are being irrational, because your proofs are not convincing enough to overcome their inability to see. Leaving aside the whole issue of whether or not the blind people are being rational in denying the existence of color and light, are YOU being rational in affirming it? Does this suggest anything to you about the rationality of your blanket assertion of the irrationality of all religious people?

    8. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The burden of proof is NEVER on the skeptic. EVER. That's not how rational thought works.

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    9. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      The worse of all believers tricks to prove their theory is to have just "two competing explanations" and dismerit the one of the opponent, and then ours must be the truth!

      Take another of the (infinite) other possibilities: Jesus didn't die. Evidence: death by crucifixion takes many time (even days), Jesus was only about three hours. Compare it to "death and resurrection". Which theory is more simple?

    10. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your "every scrap of historical and literary evidence" amounts to a few testimonies written after the alleged events were about a century old, that were chosen to be preserved by the Council of Nicea and subsequently were bound together into a book called "Bible". Anything contradictory would be long gone by now.

      Historians generally don't go on something that flimsy and call it 'fact'.

      In the end of the 1980's, Russia existed. Nuclear submarines existed. The CIA existed. The United States existed. There are documented cases of people defecting from Russia to the United States. Submarines would 'see' using sonar. The Russians often tried nagivating deep trenches in the atlantic with their submarines to evade notice.
      Therefore The Hunt For Red October must be a true story, right?

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  11. Re:Re Re Re released by Guy+Innagorillasuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Obviously you've forgotten about the spaceship scene. "You lucky bastard."

  12. A good look at terrorism by Jonny_eh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Despite how geniously funny this movie is, it is also a great look at how ridiculous terrorism is. I can't stop laughing at the hate the two terrorist groups in the movie have for each other, the People's Front of Judea, and the Judean People's Front. It's like the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestein and the Palestein Liberation Organization. I can just image these guys sitting down saying: "What did the Israelis ever do for us?" "They gave us plumbing?" "Electricity?" "Internet?" "They built our schools?" It's just an observation, let's not turn this into a flame war.

  13. Re:Yeah, but what's hot in the UK now? by martinthebrit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Little Britain. It's great, but again, probably one that 95% of American's won't understand, due to cultural differences, and that won't survive a remake. Stars Matt Lucas of Shooting Stars fame.

    Also good at the moment, Nighty Night (think darker than the League of Gentlemen) and Catterick (if you like Vic and Bob that is).

    Black Books is also in the middle of a very funny third series.

    Of course most of these are shows that have probably never been heard of in the US - pity, so visit BBC Comedy and Black books for more detail.

  14. Re:Or trying to cash in on. by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    MP have never made any claims of not cashing in! Somewhere in my collection is a record entitled something like Monty Python: The Final Ripoff>. Frankly, I respect them for seizing the moment. I had been thinking of trying to book The Passion of the Christ and Life of Brian for a double feature over at the brew cinema.

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  15. Re:Memo to God by Cruciform · · Score: 2, Insightful

    yeah yeah troll. think about this:

    If religion didn't already exist, P.T. Barnum would have invented it.

  16. Why the flamebait headline michael? by StandardCell · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hope you understand my real point in this headline instead of modding me down.

    Instead of letting Life of Brian stand on its own, you just have to draw the the comparison between the Passion and proudly declare the the seasonal alternative. If I didn't know better, your end statement seems to imply you feel very threatened by Passion and comforted by Life of Brian.

    Here's a small hint: live and let live. Nobody is forcing you to watch Passion. For a lot of geeks, the release of Passion would've been just as big a news item as this, but it has a snowball's chance on a blue star of having that happen. If you're not comfortable enough with your beliefs to let Life of Brian stand on its own, or feel that you need to try to counter or bring down the beliefs of others, then you need to address your own personal crisis without dragging all of Slashdot in with you.

    No matter what I believe, I recognize your right to believe whatever else you want. You should do the same. Just don't use Slashdot as your religious indoctrination platform. You'd be smart to leave those comments to the comments and not risk losing a small segment of readers who see the comment for what it is and threaten your ad revenue. Most of us don't go around trumpeting our religious beliefs at work, so don't do it here.

  17. Re:Re Re Re released by Spacejock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My local university put Pink Floyd's 'The Wall' on the big screen back in 198x. First (and only) time I've ever seen it, I don't want to spoil it by watching it on a tv.

    Yes, if my local theatre puts Life of Brian on I'll go and see it. It's immersion vs entertainment.

  18. It's amazing by KalvinB · · Score: 2, Insightful

    how many people completely miss the point of "The Passion."

    Apparently they were two busy being mortified by the violence to read the subtitles which did in fact reveal much about Christ's teachings. Not only "The Passion" as in his death and resurrection but his passion as in the number of times he forgave those who were scorning him. If you notice he even forgave the people who nearly whipped him to death. The verse at the beginning was also key but apparently ignored considering all the critisism about it being anti-semetic. What part of "our" didn't they comprehend? Some guy even when so far as to try to tell Gibson to put a disclaimer at the end. IT WAS AT THE BEGINNING!

    One reviewer was so dense they complained (paraphrasing) "so much for love they neighbor." What part of forgiving your tormentors isn't loving your neighbor? Geesh. Apparently we're too accustomed to Disney morality tales where it's all cutesy and they spell it out for you at the end like you're 2 years old.

    The whole reason "satan" was put in was to give Mel something of a narrarator. When Satan spoke it was usually a negation of something out of the Bible. I'd imagine that people who never read the Bible (or don't know even the basics) had no clue what the point of the snake was at the beginning. It was a reference to what God said in the Garden of Eden after kicking Adam and Eve out.

    This movie really revealed a lot about those who reviewed it. The people who didn't "get it" and whined about the violence and didn't catch the doctrine that was presented are probably just generally bad at philosophy or never took the time to study the Bible. It's an art film. It wasn't intended to be a mass market film.

    This is not a movie that you can just be a professional critic and have a valid opinion. It's amazing how many critics complained that a square has three sides.

    On Topic: Life of Brian is hilarious and I'll definitly be seeing it in the theater. I've watched the DVD many times.

    I don't know if I'll buy "The Passion" on DVD. It's not exactly a movie you'd watch just for the heck of it.

    Ben

  19. Re:Mel explicitly stated that he added Marianism.. by perly-king-69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Jesus is better documented than any of the Caesars

    You have contemporary (and I mean contemporary, not 50, 100 years post) documentation of Jesus' life? Something that compares to Augustus' Res Gestae, Julius Caesars' Gallic Wars, Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, Trajan's letters to Pliny...I could go on...? Do please tell!

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  20. Re:Biggest Complaint... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    > Great movie, but way too many man-pubes!

    Why ? Are you disturbed seeing dicks ? Btw, can you look at yourself in the mirror ?

  21. Bryan as a first!? by GAVollink · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If you have never seen Monty Python movies before, you may find this one a little dis-appointing. It's not the hands-down funniest movie they made. I'd put it third (just to warn you).

    1. ... and The Holy Grail
    2. The Meaning of Life
    3. Life of Bryan

    In some ways you could equate the Life of Brian to a funnier Forrest Gump, but you'll have to see it to understand what that means.

  22. Re:Mel explicitly stated that he added Marianism.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If Jesus was just a clever, wise or insightful man, his entire life was essentially wasted, and on top of that he is recorded as lying about his abilities. All of the serious documentation we have available from the time (and there's a surprising amount of it) indicates that he was considerably more than that. Jesus is better documented than any of the Caesars. There's also a heck of a lot of non-literate archaeological evidence which is very difficult to explain if the canonical record is not reliable.

    It is simple enough for a one-word summary explanation: bias.

    Anecdotes are not considered good evidence these days.

    Look at any modern-day cult leader, then analyze what their followers write about them and their abilities.

    What if Jesus and L. Ron Hubbard had switched places and times... what if his followers' documentary 'evidence', written decades after the fact, were what persisted in history? Would you then argue that indeed he was a war hero who used the power of his mind to heal crippling war injuries?

    How about if Jesus and Sun Myung Moon swapped? After all, on objective record Jesus was a criminal, just like Sunny boy, but his followers say differently. His followers also have documented his mystical powers.

    History would make all three of these men liars if their followers' word can't be trusted and they weren't really supernaturally connected. Yet Jesus is exempt because he got a headstart on the other two gentlemen?

    Give it some perspective.

  23. Re:Wasn't the LOB really about radical politics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The poltical/terror groups protrayed in LOB are actually pretty close to what was going on in Judea at the time. Perhaps not as comically... but pretty bloody close. The country was riddled with tiny factionalised groups trying to remove the oppresive Roman occupiers[*] and fighting amongst themselves as much as the Romans.

    Alas for the Romans stationed there it was the armpit of the Empire. The Romans didnt really want Judea. It didnt really get them wealth or power. They invaded Judea at the request of the Eygptian province(which was part of the empire). Because bands of invaders keep raiding into Eygpt.

    [*]Who werent actually that bad... in fact a lot of countries joined the empire without coersion as it made your country a lot better off... the romans had a standard deal to the king of a country... let us run your country but only after you die. In exchange will give you milarty support against your neighbours. A sweet deal for both parties. The romans will enventually get a new country, the neighbours wont make any trouble... but if they do the Romans have an excuse to conquer them

  24. Re:What have the Americans done for us ? by RLW · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are no inherent HUMAN rights beyond what a society grants to those who live it. Brutality, slavery, and callousness towards others is the norm over the course of HUMAN history. HUMAN rights as a notion is a new comer. Anyone who says otherwise is a history revisionist.

    Perhaps Americans are arrogant, but to large degree Americans do have a basis for that arrogance. If the rest of the world wants what America has then stop bitching about it and do it.

  25. Re:What have the Americans done for us ? by spood · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I found myself amazed that this comment got modded to funny. Then I started to think about our international readership, and started wondering if global opinion about us has sunk so low that they find humor in our misfortune. Of course, we are responsible for that low opinion ourselves.

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  26. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It does prove that there was a record of winemaking before the Romans were in Israel. And he didn't say Noah was the first to 'make wine', he said 'plant a vinyard'. Probably there's an earlier record of vinyard planting somewhere, but the point still serves. No matter how skeptical, you have to acknowledge that a people don't record acts of winemaking before they can do it themselves.

    Thus, the Romans did not bring winemaking to the Jewish people. Their records of such acts radically predate the Roman invasion.

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  27. What does this have to do with anything? by mydoghasworms · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am rather disappointed by the reaction to this post. I understand that most of Slashdot readers are movie buffs besides being geeks and open source followers, and Monty Python has a strong following among them. However, considering the reaction this post has drawn, much of it disrespectful to the Christian faith, I wonder: What has this got to do with open source and the open source community (remember - OSDN)? That is the main reason I read Slashdot, and is what I understand to be the main purpose for Slashdot. I understand Micheal posted this with informative intent, but I think there are more appropriate websites for these kind of announcements.

  28. Re:"Alternative to hype"...? by JonKatzIsAnIdiot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why does this person feel like The Passion needs some kind of antidote? Why should this movie need "counter-programming"? What's wrong with having a millions of people very interested in a film which, like it or not, has serious artistic merit? Even if it didn't have artistic merit, why should a popular movie need an alternative?

    Quite obviously, despite protestations to the contrary of aethiests, agnostics and liberals, thier desires to push thier own beliefs on the world are just as strong as the Christians they're constantly accusing.

  29. Except that sight can be proven by ttfkam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sighted person: Okay, stand right where you are.
    Blind skeptic: Why?
    SP: I'm going to take ten paces away from you.
    BS: Okay.
    SP: Now hold up one of your hands. Aha! You just raised your left hand.
    BS: What about now?
    SP: It's still your left hand.
    BS: How did you know that?
    SP: I can see.

    Now have the sighted person get four items, each a different color, and hand them out. The items should have the same size, shape and texture. Have the sighted person identify each item to the person holding it. Have the sighted person occupied by a fifth volunteer so that the activites of the first four are hidden from sight. The first four will now trade with each other, whispering the color the sighted person attributed to the item he/she held. The sighted person is brought back into view and questioned about the items again. Repeat with a new group of blind volunteers. Assuming the blind are honest, this would provide proof. It's called "The Scientific Method."

    On the other hand, the proofs I hear from theists include

    1. I know God exists because I can feel his presence
    2. Something amazingly good happened to me when it should have been bad
    3. If God doesn't exist, how do you explain this world we live in?
    4. 95% of the people in the world believe in a supreme being. What makes you right and everyone else wrong?
    5. I see God's work everywhere
    6. The Bible/Koran/Torah

    Responses:

    1. Ever been camping and notice some insect or spider crawling on your leg? Or rather, you thought there was something crawling on your leg but when you looked and swatted, nothing was there. Our senses are fallible. The only way to know for sure would be to see the bug -- something observable that others can observe as well.
    2. Yes, the NFL wide receiver argument. "I want to thank God for giving me the ability to make that touchdown..." Yet we never hear, "We were kicking the other team's ass when Jesus suddenly decided to make me fumble three times." Good people win the lottery. Bad people win the lottery. Good people survive car accidents. Bad people survive car accidents. What makes you, the God-fearing Christian, more special than the other God-fearing Christian who is now hamburger in their smashed up Toyota Celica?
    3. If the Giant Burnt Umber Crayon didn't throw a rave one hundred years ago in Grand Central Station, how do you explain the world? Same argument, different subject. It begs the question. Your conclusion is the same as one of your premises.
    4. Fallacy of argumentum ad populum. "Nature abhors a vacuum." At one time, it was accepted by most. Popular agreement is not the same as proof. All things considered, it was a good theory at the time. It is still wrong.
    5. I see the same world as you, but with no god in it. Once again, begging the question. God exists. The world is a product of God. The world exists. Therefore God exists. Take away the first premise and the argument falls apart.
    6. Giant Burnt Umber Crayon

    I know that I will hear noise about "strawman." Fair enough. Provide proof and we'll be done with it. If you can't provide proof, God is as likely to exist as the Giant Burnt Umber Crayon.

    You are free to believe what you will. But unless you can demonstrate it to others, don't be indignant when others point and laugh at you when you proclaim it as truth. Don't want pointing and laughter, keep it to yourself or prove it.

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  30. Re:Jesus had to die by Kris+Thalamus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Jesus did not take his own life. He GAVE his life up while we (all of us) crucified Him. There is a difference.

    Sure, he didn't pull the trigger or nail himself to a cross. On that same merit I can jump in front of a moving bus and blame the driver for not stopping. The point is that he intentionally let himself die, which qualifies him as suicidal in many people's eyes.