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Prothon - A New Prototype-based Language
Ben Collins writes "Prothon is a new industrial-strength, interpreted, prototype-based, object-oriented language that gets rid of classes altogether in the way that the Self language does. It uses the sensible, practical syntax and add-on C module scheme from Python. This major prototype improvement over Python plus many other general improvements make for a clean new revolutionary breakthrough in language development. Prothon is simple to use and yet offers the combined power of Python and Self. Check out the first public pre-alpha release at prothon.org."
Sounds like a korean car.
Watch this Heartland Institute video
call it "Industrial-Strength" if it's "pre-alpha?"
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Well, it would be newsworthy if it were a pre-alpha release of Duke Nukem Forever.
this language doesn't just use prototypes... it is one.
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What's with all these languages that start with 'p'? perl, python, php, not to mention good old pascal, and now prothon. Is there a joke here that I'm missing?
This is taken from the Prothon Description
Like Python, Prothon uses indentation to control the block structure of the program instead of block/end or {}. However, Prothon only allows tabs for indentation. Any space in an indent will cause an error.
Classic bondage-and-discipline. Why oh why is this so ??
I hear there's rumors on the Slashdots
Of course we need more programming languages. That is how we learn how to make programming languages better.
Sure, only a small number of languages become popular in the end. But that doesn't mean the unpopular ones don't have academic value.
Cheers.
There are sooo many general programming languages but only one database access languages: SQL? SQL is so old, it hurts. It's basically COBOL.
Ok, there is one additional database access language I know of: NewSQL (http://newsql.sf.net).
But it seems nobody is really interested in database access. And everybody is interested in all kinds of general programming language. Why is that?
They would if it wasn't easier to do in python.
kyjello is too damn smooth to make a signature.
http://www.iolanguage.com/
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A new language is here! A new language is here! I needed something to go between "Perl" and "Python" in my alphabetical index of languages.
I'm a bit of a 'language lawyer', so new languages that try to solve problems in interesting ways always interests me. So... I decided to give it a good reading. I got turned off IMMEDIATELY as I saw the following text:
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"Unlike python, there is no 'global' keyword. Any variable name starting with a capital letter is global."
(Taken from memory... the prothon site is a bit slow at the moment, for some odd reason
That is NOT the sign of an 'industrial strength' language.
A pre alpha release really isn't newsworthy. Is this some one's pet project?
That's what it sounds like to me.
Someone has an idea, makes a sourceforge page for it, gets some developers, writes up his ideas full of marketspeak. What happens to it? About 95% of the time, it dies a long, slow death.
That's pre-alpha, folks! I'll be happy to look at it when it reaches 1.0, but until then, I'm playing the odds.
I wasn't aware Python was broken.
Perl wasn't broken when Python was made, right? Adding another language never harms anyone, really. If it proves to be powerful, people will use it. If it proves to be clean and easy to understand, people will use it as a learning tool. If it doesn't offer anything better than any other language, it will die. Its just the evolution of coding languages.
Hell, if everyone followed the philosophy of "well, [programing language] isn't broken, why make another." We'd all be programming in assembly... or worse, bytecode.
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
Yeah, it's a lot like Self, mixed with Python syntax. Self had a lot of interesting ideas. It never really got out of the starting blocks, but some of its most important ideas in dynamic compilation went on to be included in the Java hotspot compiler.
Personally, I prefer a bit more bondage-and-discipline in my languages. That's because I like having the compiler tell me what I'm doing wrong as much as possible. It's a side effect of the environments in which I tend to work, with multiple people working on the same code. Strong typing is an important contract in such an environment. But it has a lot of downsides, as every perl and python programmer knows.
Oh, and dude, if you're going to submit your own damn web site to Slashdot, try getting a sturdier web server first.
Prototype languages still hold many of the OO concepts, but objects are created directly. That is, a "blueprint" approach (i.e., the class) is not used in the creation of objects. Inheritance still works by cloning and modifying existing objects. Although this makes sense in some ways (ideas like the Singleton pattern fit more nicely in this paradigm), in reality prototype languages gain features that make them more and more class-like. I'm not a big fan, personally.