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Nuclear Fusion Real Soon Now

Mr. A. Coward writes "Researchers at the National Ignition Facility are attempting to produce nuclear fusion. They'll focus 192 amplified lasers on a pellet of frozen hydrogen. 'NIF experiments will be the first to create fusion that gives off more energy than it takes in.' That will have to be quite a bit, since it will take 500 trillion watts to ignite the pellet in the first place. The facility has been plagued with delays, and so far only 4 of the 192 lasers have been completed. Researchers believe they will first achieve fusion sometime around 2014."

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  1. Sim City 2000 by Doogie5526 · · Score: 4, Funny

    SimCity said they should be avaliable around 2020, right? I love games that tell the future

    1. Re:Sim City 2000 by Daverd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, but it'll only be good for 50 years, and then we'll have to trash it. What a waste...

    2. Re:Sim City 2000 by lafiel · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, I think they suggested full scale Fusion plants in 2050, and Microwave power in 2020.

      So in 16 years, prepare for lasers bombarding us from space.

    3. Re:Sim City 2000 by Raven42rac · · Score: 3, Funny

      But, if you have enough money in the bank, and clicked the correct box, it will magically replace itself!

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    4. Re:Sim City 2000 by seven+of+five · · Score: 2, Funny

      Microwave popcorn??? We got that already! ... ohhh.... ... nevermind.....

    5. Re:Sim City 2000 by Saeger · · Score: 3, Funny
      SimCity still doesn't let you play with the implications of near-future nanotechnology, though. The game still assumes the future will be ruled by depressingly conventional top-down bulk-tech.

      I want to be able to run a simcity where the Agricultural, Industrial, and Retail/Commercial sectors have almost entirely been replaced by decentralized molecular manufacturing, robotics and better AI. In addition to the water/sewage/electical grid, you'd have a molecular feekstock grid to recycle the molecules of old material objects into. The focus of the game would be in maximizing the happiness of the new leisure society.

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    6. Re:Sim City 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Holy shit! That's it? Somebody tell those researchers, quick!

  2. What was that joke. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In 1960 we where gong to have fusion in 1980.
    In 1980 we where going to have fusion in 2000.
    In 2004 we'll have it in 2014.

    Things are starting to look optimistic!

    1. Re:What was that joke. by esdjco · · Score: 2, Funny

      They have already created fusion. Didn't anyone see the movie THE SAINT? Duh, I mean she had it written down on notes stuffed in her titie holders!

    2. Re:What was that joke. by Paleomacus · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wish I got paid to point out the obvious. Too bad I only get dirty looks instead of a high salary...

    3. Re:What was that joke. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I bravely volunteer to go forth and retreive said ti--I mean, notes.

  3. Another ten? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So really, fusion is only another ten years away...

  4. National Ignition Facility? by sirdude · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sounds like an arsonists' boot camp :S

  5. where's the earth shattering kaboom? by wildchild978 · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom!

    1. Re:where's the earth shattering kaboom? by Imperator · · Score: 1, Funny

      Only in Chicago.

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  6. *taps foot* by dark404 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Call me when FusionSE is released and it's small enough to power my laptop.

  7. Re:Researchers? by Fat+Jedi+Kid · · Score: 2, Funny

    'NIF experiments will be the first to create fusion that gives off more energy than it takes in.'

    Just sounds like my design plans for a perpetual motion machine. Can I borrow your snake oil for the bearings.

  8. Re:Real Soon Now... ? by BlueCodeWarrior · · Score: 5, Funny

    When Redmond announced Longhorn.

  9. Yeah, but... by inertia187 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Researchers believe they will first achieve fusion sometime around 2014.

    What about my flying cars? I was promised flying cars!

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    1. Re:Yeah, but... by Stone+Rhino · · Score: 2, Funny
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  10. Re:Real Soon Now... ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You'll need a fusion reactor to power a computer with longhorn.

  11. In the year 2020 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    sale of foil hats will be at an all time high

  12. SWEET! Just in time for Duke Nukem! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    We'll certainly need the power of fusion for it.

  13. 500 trillion watts by Dagrush · · Score: 1, Funny

    sp what do you you when you're in a lab with a little pellet of frozen hydrogen that's going to release 500 trillion watts? light it up and run?

  14. 2044 Bike Ride by thellamaman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's see, we get fusion in abou 10 years. That's 2014. Maybe 10 years later, we have a terrible disaster. That's 2024. So in 2044, I'm predicting we get a slashdot story about a cute biker chick riding around "ghost town," or what used to be Livermore, California.

  15. IANA Nuclear-type guy by Bryan_W · · Score: 2, Funny
    fusion that gives off more energy than it takes in.
    "In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!" - Homer
  16. Four days early by sam_handelman · · Score: 3, Funny

    April 1st isn't until Thursday.

    This announcement was supposed to come out simultaneously with the "verified" claim to have found Methane on Mars, and with Condoleeza Rice's hillarious admission of guilt before the 9/11 commission, all on Thursday. Now you've ruined it.

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  17. Re:I don't think that's very much energy by Lord+of+Ironhand · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, but at least this way, you won't have to wait for your coffee! I knew our tax dollars wouldn't be wasted!

  18. Re:Real soon? by Larry+David · · Score: 4, Funny

    Date an English major.

    I'd rather not. I never went for the Army type.

  19. Re:Whose definition of "soon" by rokzy · · Score: 2, Funny

    so, in 10 years these guys can potentially solve the world's energy problems and help stop the devastation non-renewable fuels are doing to the environment.

    or, you can build us a couple of new bridges.

    hmmm...

  20. Re:Break Even When? by yobbo · · Score: 1, Funny

    and probably a handy super weapon to kill all our enemies too.

  21. Re:Researchers? by piovere · · Score: 3, Funny

    go easy on him--if he's a real /. geek he hasn't seen the sun in a while

  22. Will I be able to cook burritos any faster? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Will I be able to cook burritos any faster?

  23. Re:I'm sorry but.... by AaronD12 · · Score: 3, Funny
    =! != !=

    Sorry, I couldn't resist...

  24. Re:Researchers? by AaronD12 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean the moon? It really doesn't hurt my eyes though. It does make me want to howl...

  25. Just spin it a bit... by francium+de+neobie · · Score: 3, Funny

    Case 1:

    Article: "When all 192 lasers in the NIF are operating, they'll focus 500 trillion watts (everything after this point is non-existent) - more than 1,000 times the power generated in the United States - on their target, albeit only for a few billionths of a second."

    Slashdotter: "500 trillion watts?! You gotta be fuckin' kidding! You're gonna blow up California!"

    Case 2:

    Article: "When all 192 lasers in the NIF are operating, they'll focus a few kilojoules worth of energy on a hydrogen pellet..."

    Slashdotter: "WTF is this all about? Is this good? Or is it whack?"

    Case 3:

    Article: "With this (Dr. Evil style)LA-SER device, we're gonna get FU-SION using less energy then what your Prescott has consumed while you're reading this piece of crap!"

    Slashdotter: "I, for one, welcomes our new fusion power overlord! l33t!!!!"

  26. Re:Real Soon Now... ? by criordan · · Score: 2, Funny

    My 1 year old turned into a 3 year old the last time I went shopping with my wife and kid.

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  27. As if! by Trejkaz · · Score: 2, Funny

    As if! First you have to teach the sharks to fly!

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    1. Re:As if! by DarkHelmet · · Score: 2, Funny

      After you strap friggin' lasers on their heads.

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    2. Re:As if! by drgnvale · · Score: 2, Funny

      And then some damn crocodile will kill it anyway.

  28. 10 years?! by spamster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps we should send a couple of settlers to the capitol and use them to help finish this Great Wonder!

  29. Re:Take your time by petabyte · · Score: 3, Funny

    *Points at big glowing spherical fusion plant in the sky*

    In 4 billion years when that sucker goes red-giant we'll see what it can't meltdown ;).

    I like my Earth's extra-crispy.

  30. Re:Impossible! by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, a world of happiness and leisure... for everyone except the poor sucker who has to keep pushing the frozen hydrogen pellets into the lasers.

    Hope he's got real thick gloves.

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  31. Re:I dunno by dankow · · Score: 3, Funny

    Besides, making this big ungainly beast is an important step towards getting a Mr. Fusion power supply for a DeLorean, a critical part of our future economy.


    Don't you mean our past economy?

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  32. OT: flying cars here! by IO+ERROR · · Score: 2, Funny
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  33. Re:Researchers? by FrostyCoolSlug · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ok, i blame my blindness on you. I've not been in the sun for weeks.. AND NOW LOOK AT ME! And now, back to the matter at hand. Nulcear fusion is possible. have a nice day :)

  34. Re:Real Soon Now... ? by YU+Nicks+NE+Way · · Score: 3, Funny

    Whadaya mean "need a fusion reactor"? Our design plan is that the CPU will be so hot and so compressed that it will serve as its own fusion reactor! Intel and AMD are already on board with this. If it weren't for Transmeta, we'd have a perfect plan for world domination! (Think of the games, too! Microsoft Reactor Simulator 2000 Rad...)

  35. Re:this is interesting news by Frogbert · · Score: 1, Funny
    Omega EP will produce an astounding 2.6 PETAWATTS(million billion watts!!)


    Thats all well and good but can you strap it to a freaking shark?
  36. Re:Real Soon Now... ? by Lord+Prox · · Score: 3, Funny

    Think of the games, too! Microsoft Reactor Simulator 2000

    And when it crashes?! Symantec Anti-Rad... Now with CoolCore(r) Technology

  37. Re:The break even should factor in by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1, Funny

    ah, but you forget the x/5 cents *10 cents in governmental subsidies that will be granted and bestowed on any upstart fusion power plant, making fusion power economical which them makes more fusion power plants which makes the tech cheaper which makes more power plants which make R&D greater which makes equipment cheaper which....you get the idea.

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  38. Easy one by ElDuque · · Score: 3, Funny



    In related news, NIF has ordered 192 sharks.

  39. Should have gone into science by melted · · Score: 3, Funny

    Boss: When do you expect to finish the project?
    Me: Hmmm, lemme see, I think I'll finish it by year 2014, and then it may not work.
    Boss: OK, here's your paycheck. By the way, we've approved that $20M yearly budget increase.

    Boy, wouldn't that be sweet? Software industry is a wrong domain to work in right now. Those bloodsucking PHBs demand results every freaking week.

  40. classic joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    any physicist worth his salt knows this one..

    "plasma fusion is 20 years away. and it will always be."

    notice how grammer is not a necessary component of a physicists salt content ^_^

  41. 500 Trillion Watts!!! by OC_Wanderer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Marty McFly: So does it run on regular unleaded gasoline?

    Dr. Emmett Brown: Unfortunately no, it needs something with a little more kick - plutonium.

    Marty McFly: Plutonium... wait, are you telling me that this sucker is nuclear?

    Dr. Emmett Brown: No no no, this sucker's electrical, but it requires a nuclear reaction to generate the 1.21 gigawatts of electricity I need.

    Marty McFly: Doc, you don't just walk into a store and buy plutonium... did you rip that off?

    Dr. Emmett Brown: Shhhhhh. Of course. From a group of Libyan nationalists. They wanted me to build them a bomb, so I took their plutonium and in turn, gave them a shiny bomb-casing filled with used pinball machine parts.

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  42. Re:Break Even When? by surprise_audit · · Score: 4, Funny
    A hundred years from now, I want a fresh set of environmental and social problems

    A hundred years from now I'd just like to be alive...

  43. Re:Break Even When? by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 4, Funny
    is that the first effect would be the fall of civilisation, since our entire economic system is based on the scarcity of energy.

    No problem. Just found the EIAA (Energy Industry Association of America), and outlaw all competitors, and artifically limit the supply. It works for other industries too, why not for energy. It's not as if the energy industry is missing the cash to buy quality congress critters, after all!

  44. Re:Break Even When? by moxruby · · Score: 1, Funny

    Hehe, though sadly, I think that if we were alive in 100 years we would BE the environmental problem ;)

  45. The Jargon Dictionary says ... by simon_clarkstone · · Score: 1, Funny
    Well ... look for yourself:

    Real Soon Now

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  46. Flash mob fusion by thepacketmaster · · Score: 2, Funny

    Get as many people together as you can, with laser pointers and a hydrogen filled balloon.

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