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Fedora Core 2 Test 2 Released

Kalak writes "Fedora Core 2 Test 2, part of the project's goal to 'work with the Linux community to build a complete, general purpose operating system exclusively from open source software', has just been released - this test release 'is specifically designed for SELinux testing, as well as testing the 2.6 kernel, GNOME 2.5, and KDE 3.2.1.' Get a copy from one of the mirrors or grab a copy via BitTorrent. You probably want the binary only Torrent."

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  1. Re:Not the first project to do this? by SquadBoy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Debian you were thinking of Debian

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  2. Exciting stuff going on at Fedora by capz+loc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I installed Fedora Core 1 when it first came out and I was very impressed. It included some stuff that wasn't in RH9, including a very pretty graphical boot. If Fedora continues on the path that it is on now, it could become a worthy competitor with SuSE and Mandrake on the home user front.

    The community projects like Fedora and Debian tend to innovate more than distros that are managed by companies because they can get away with the "if it breaks, you keep both pieces" warantee. Distros used in enterprise scenarios (generally) offer a more stable product, at the cost of innovation.

  3. MP3 support? by IO+ERROR · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is Fedora Core 2 going to re-enable MP3 support now that it's no longer a "commercial" product?

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    1. Re:MP3 support? by rgmoore · · Score: 5, Informative

      No. Fedora is trying very hard to avoid IP issues, so they've deliberately refrained from including things like mp3 decoders and DVD decoders that might get them into legal trouble. Fortunately, Fedora does have apt and yum available, so it's easy to add external repositories, like FreshRPMS or Livna, both of which do include mp3 players and DVD decoders. It's very convenient, and avoids a lot of legal headaches for RedHat.

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    2. Re:MP3 support? by Kalak · · Score: 5, Informative

      The commercial / non-commercial isn't the reason - it's that mp3 is a proprietary format, and Fedora is still backed by RedHat. Royalty issues for mp3 have been talked about before on slashdot, and I don't see RedHat giving the nod to distributing mp3 decoders in Fedora any more than in the RedHat Enterprise distributions. It's the same as distributing the NTFS modules. New Fedora releases shouldn't effect this decision.

      Just grab XMMS RPMS for Fedora from their home page and let RedHat worry about what they distribute. NTFS module RPMS are available as well.

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  4. UL still alive and widely used by bigirondawg · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, UnitedLinux was formed by Caldera, Connectiva,TurboLinux, and SuSE. SCO is obviously not an active contributor anymore, but Suse, TurboLinux, and Connectiva continue to distribute UL. UL is actually more of a brand that stands for packaging uniformity, since you download (or purchase) the UL version you want based on the vendor you choose. (i.e. You can get UL based on the SuSE, Turbo, or Connectiva dist. of Linux.)

    Basically, the UL framework allows the companies to still market their product to corporations while still standardizing the Linux product and giving a (semi) unified front to the Linux world.

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  5. Re:Gnome 2.5 by daemonc · · Score: 5, Funny

    This not surprising, considering Gnome 2.6 will not be released for another 2 days. Unless you have some method for pulling tarballs from the future that you'd like to let us know about.

    But yes, this is just a test release, and the final will include Gnome 2.6 and hopefully will not require time travel.

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  6. The email announcement by afd8856 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anybody else thought their email announcement is extremly hilarious? :)

    One bug, two bugs, tar bugs, su bugs,
    grep bugs, mew bugs, old bugs, new bugs.

    This bug has a little hack,
    This bug has a broken stack.
    Say! What a lot of bugs to track.

    Yes, some are in tar, and some in su.
    Some are old. And some are new.

    Some in sed, and some in jed.
    And some are even in parted.
    Why are they in parted, jed and sed?
    I do not know. Bugs should be dead!

    Some in jpeg, and some in TIFF
    This TIFF one has an attached diff.

    >From there to here, from here to there
    Test release bugs are everywhere.

    Fedora Core test 2 is available for
    x86 and x86-64
    It should not be installed where production is hot;
    use it only for test, as we say quite a lot.

    If you install with the default
    SELinux will be the result
    SELinux is a form of MAC
    For more answers, check the FAQ [*]
    By explicitly stating what apps can use
    Unwanted accesses it will refuse

    [*] http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinux -faq-en/

    So please test test2 in this mode;
    and please test it with your code.
    Plus it comes with a new GNOME;
    can you test that in your home?
    Also X.org is new,
    replacing XFree, test it too.
    And 3.2.1 of KDE
    We need to test, test, test, you see!
    So we will test it on our box.
    And we will even test out sox.
    And we will test it in our house.
    And we will test it with our mouse.
    And we will test it here and there.
    Say! We will test it ANYWHERE!

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  7. "You probably want the binary only Torrent." by syntap · · Score: 5, Funny

    You insensitive clod.

  8. Re:Great by prockcore · · Score: 5, Informative

    But do we really need Yet Another Linux Distro?

    As far as I can see, Debian, Gentoo, Slackware and probably others are already


    Two of those distros are younger than RedHat (fedora).

    Plus none of those offer SELinux out of the box (which FCTest2 does), none of those offer xorg instead of XFree86 (which FCTest2 does).

  9. Re:Gnome 2.5 by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Funny
    This not surprising, considering Gnome 2.6 will not be released for another 2 days. Unless you have some method for pulling tarballs from the future that you'd like to let us know about.

    It's called a subscription and it let's you see into "The Mysterious Future" where you should be able to get ahold of whatever tarballs you need.

    (Sorry, that was probably lame, but I couldn't resist)

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  10. Re:ACPI and kernel by ajs · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is still pre-release so your comments aren't too unreasonable, but just so that people understand that this isn't always the right way to look at the problem:

    The way version numbering works in Red Hat (and by extension, Fedora), is that the package version number is the version of the software that the package STARTED from, but it may have little to do with the state of the software as installed.

    For example, you might have openssh version 3.1 on a box, but if you look at the SRPM for that package, you will find security bug-fixes applied from all of the openssh versions between 3.1 and the current day.

    The SRPM is essentially three things: A tar-ball(s) of the original source as shipped by the developers; a set of patches or add-ons that the vendor has decided to include and a Makefile-like thing that RPM knows how to read called a spec file.

    Thus, FC2 might ship with Linux 2.6.4, but that doesn't mean it lacks a feature or bug-fix from 2.6.5... you have to check the patch-set in the SRPM to know that.

    Every time the contents of that SRPM are updated, the RPM version changes, so you'll see something like "foo-1.2-2", where 1.2 is the version of foo that the SRPM was based on, and this is the second build from Fedora.

  11. Re: NTFS by Burdell · · Score: 5, Informative
    There apparently are patent issues with NTFS, and people from Red Hat have said that multiple times (here for example).

    As for FAT, from what I've read the patent (patents?) doesn't cover the way Linux uses a FAT filesystem.