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Fedora Core 2 Test 2 Released
Kalak writes "Fedora Core 2 Test 2, part of the project's goal to 'work with the Linux community to build a complete, general purpose operating system exclusively from open source software', has just been released - this test release 'is specifically designed for SELinux testing, as well as testing the 2.6 kernel, GNOME 2.5, and KDE 3.2.1.' Get a copy from one of the mirrors or grab a copy via BitTorrent. You probably want the binary only Torrent."
Now we can use the lk 2.6 without having to add homebrew packages (yeah, I know there's some guy who provides a yum-able package tree). Anyway, this release should be an excellent updgrade. I'd be very interested to hear of the pre-release stability. Anyone care to comment?
I'm not horribly ign'nt, but I'm obviously no genious either. Somewhere along the line /dev got all dicked up and stuff stopped working. So to stop the bitching, it's great to see a faster-than-average turnaround by the Fedora guys. Will be installing this (and checking config files to see where I went wrong-- LEARN from your mistakes, people) tonight.
I hope their gonna switch to 2.6.4 cuz last time I checked, they were using 2.6.1 and acpi for that is still broken. For some reason, the acpi people don't even support 2.6.3 any more...
You mean "UnitedLinux" started by Caldera?
Is UnitedLinux still alive in a more than a symbolic way?
Pardon me, but isn't that what UnitedLinux was supposed to do?
look at the united linux page. looks very 'commercial' to me, you can't even find a download link easily, or can you even download it?
while the fedora page has a nice and simple download link.
Marge, get me your address book, 4 beers, and my conversation hat.
I think the correct question is what happened to United Linux... and I think we all know what happened there.
*SCO!* *cough* *cough* *SCO!*
So are you saying the previous distributions of linux weren't general purpose operating systems or that they weren't completely from open source software. Was say redhat 9 not general purpose??? Isn't FreeBSD general purpose and all open source??
What defines general purpose???
Evolution or ID?
Debian you were thinking of Debian
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I installed Fedora Core 1 when it first came out and I was very impressed. It included some stuff that wasn't in RH9, including a very pretty graphical boot. If Fedora continues on the path that it is on now, it could become a worthy competitor with SuSE and Mandrake on the home user front.
The community projects like Fedora and Debian tend to innovate more than distros that are managed by companies because they can get away with the "if it breaks, you keep both pieces" warantee. Distros used in enterprise scenarios (generally) offer a more stable product, at the cost of innovation.
yup. from their faq:
What is UnitedLinux?
UnitedLinux is a standards-based, worldwide Linux solution targeted at the business user and developed by Conectiva, The SCO Group, SuSE, and Turbolinux.
and since Suse was bought by Novell, and United Linux was really 99% Suse...can we say "poof" UL is no more.
Is Fedora Core 2 going to re-enable MP3 support now that it's no longer a "commercial" product?
How am I supposed to fit a pithy, relevant quote into 120 characters?
Maybe this is obvious -- I donno.
If you are interested Fedora, check out:
Fedora News
(unofficial site).
Lots of good stuff there.
As I type, one of my machines at home is downloading FC2 test 1. Guess I'd better check the timeline next time...
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They can't include MP3 support precisely because Fedora is non-commercial. (Who would pay the per-copy license fees?)
No, UnitedLinux was formed by Caldera, Connectiva,TurboLinux, and SuSE. SCO is obviously not an active contributor anymore, but Suse, TurboLinux, and Connectiva continue to distribute UL. UL is actually more of a brand that stands for packaging uniformity, since you download (or purchase) the UL version you want based on the vendor you choose. (i.e. You can get UL based on the SuSE, Turbo, or Connectiva dist. of Linux.)
Basically, the UL framework allows the companies to still market their product to corporations while still standardizing the Linux product and giving a (semi) unified front to the Linux world.
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This not surprising, considering Gnome 2.6 will not be released for another 2 days. Unless you have some method for pulling tarballs from the future that you'd like to let us know about.
But yes, this is just a test release, and the final will include Gnome 2.6 and hopefully will not require time travel.
All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream.
Anybody else thought their email announcement is extremly hilarious? :)
x -faq-en/
One bug, two bugs, tar bugs, su bugs,
grep bugs, mew bugs, old bugs, new bugs.
This bug has a little hack,
This bug has a broken stack.
Say! What a lot of bugs to track.
Yes, some are in tar, and some in su.
Some are old. And some are new.
Some in sed, and some in jed.
And some are even in parted.
Why are they in parted, jed and sed?
I do not know. Bugs should be dead!
Some in jpeg, and some in TIFF
This TIFF one has an attached diff.
>From there to here, from here to there
Test release bugs are everywhere.
Fedora Core test 2 is available for
x86 and x86-64
It should not be installed where production is hot;
use it only for test, as we say quite a lot.
If you install with the default
SELinux will be the result
SELinux is a form of MAC
For more answers, check the FAQ [*]
By explicitly stating what apps can use
Unwanted accesses it will refuse
[*] http://people.redhat.com/kwade/fedora-docs/selinu
So please test test2 in this mode;
and please test it with your code.
Plus it comes with a new GNOME;
can you test that in your home?
Also X.org is new,
replacing XFree, test it too.
And 3.2.1 of KDE
We need to test, test, test, you see!
So we will test it on our box.
And we will even test out sox.
And we will test it in our house.
And we will test it with our mouse.
And we will test it here and there.
Say! We will test it ANYWHERE!
I'll do the stupid thing first and then you shy people follow...
They'll ship Fedora Core 2 final with GNOME 2.6, but GNOME 2.6 isn't due to be released until March 31st...
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It would appear to fill a void that IMHO exists between Debian and Slakware.
And if you thought that was boring you obviously havn't read my Journal ;-)
You insensitive clod.
But do we really need Yet Another Linux Distro?
As far as I can see, Debian, Gentoo, Slackware and probably others are already
Two of those distros are younger than RedHat (fedora).
Plus none of those offer SELinux out of the box (which FCTest2 does), none of those offer xorg instead of XFree86 (which FCTest2 does).
Might have answered, in part, at least, your own question there, boyo.
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I had alot of problems, the graphic installer would not work for me, it would just lock my mouse up out of no where and I had to reboot. Once I got it installed I could not change my clock out of 24 hour format , the clock applet kept crashing. I tried to open hwbrowser to take a look into setting up my printer, that never loaded. The new nautilus is just garbage imho. I then tried to run yum but that failed as it couldnt reach any servers so I installed apt-get but I could not install any packages due to gpg issues. Sigh... core 1 runs fine on my laptop though.
I was horribly disapointed with test 1, WOW , I mean I install it on release day and there are already like 500 megs of updates ?!?! , Not to mention all the menu issues and other buggies, I know its a "test" but wow RH betas were never in such disarray in my experience. On the other hand I was Thrilled with FC1 for my laptop, everything just Worked like it was supposed to I hope FC2 release is as good.
Most rpms built for RedHat 7.3 - 9 should work without a problem in FC1 and FC2. With Linux, you can easily build binarys that will only work on one version of one distro, it takes a little more work to make it generic.
It's called a subscription and it let's you see into "The Mysterious Future" where you should be able to get ahold of whatever tarballs you need.
(Sorry, that was probably lame, but I couldn't resist)
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
and what exactly is preventing redhat from distributing NTFS like everyone else, commercial or not?
i've asked redhat repeatedly to explain, and they have refused to give a straight answer. first they claimed it was "stability issues", claiming NTFS would "corrupt memory", but wouldnt give any examples and clammed up when i asked for clarifications. then they suddenly changed their story to "legal issues", but again clammed up when asked to explain. patents? copyrights? trade secrets? no answer.
it ain't legal issues -- unless you can point to NTFS patents. and it ain't copyright issues either -- because the code was written from scratch. the codebase for NTFS was developed much the same way as the codebase for SAMBA -- from publically available documentation and reverse engineering. if redhat has a legal problem with NTFS then they shouldnt be distributing SAMBA either.
it also strikes me very odd that they would include FAT filesystems which DO have patent issues, but exclude NTFS which does NOT.
Because Redhat != Fedora.
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However, in looking through the messages, I found that there is a document on how to use mirror servers as a source for updates. I'm surprised that Fedora doesn't have a system for balancing clients to different mirror servers, a la Gentoo, but now that I've picked a few mirrors, things have been a lot smoother.
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This is a test of the distribution. This way, they get to test the ISOs, as well. You CAN apt-get upgrade or yum update your older release installation if you want to. Not everyone has an older installation and for those people, they'd rather download the new distribution rather than an old one and the upgrades.
Would've been logical if you thought it through.
As for FAT, from what I've read the patent (patents?) doesn't cover the way Linux uses a FAT filesystem.
I think that's why they call it 'Fedora Core 2 TEST 2'.
Damn my modpoints ran out just as i was reading the article =)
"think if Red Hat really had the best interests of the Linux community in mind, they would have joined the UL project at the beginning, anyway, instead of trying to "go it alone" with their own marketing and distro environment."
Do you think this has anything to do with it? A clip from a ZDnet Germany interview with Red Hat:
Were you asked to be part of the UnitedLinux team? Were there any negotiations?
We were asked to be a part of UnitedLinux team hours before their public announcement.
If Red Hat got together with mandrake, developed a standard that is 99% red hat, Calls SuSe the day before its released and says. Hurry up and be a standard, you have 9 hours! Think SuSe would do that?
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