OpenOffice.org For Mac OS X Hits 1.1.1 (Finally)
berchca writes "So it looks like OpenOffice.org for Mac OS X has finally hit 1.1.1 (for X11). They've also stated they probably won't do a native (Aqua/Carbon) release until OOo 2.0 is out, in late 2005 or early. Great work guys! Now I can get decent macros." I hope 1.1.1 has some speedups over 1.1.0, which works well but takes forever to start.
Instead of pissing in the wind with X on Mac, all of the effort should be for the native aqua version. The X version looks horrible and performs horrible. I just helped my cousin, who is a complete nube, buy an Ibook online last night for his first computer. It's a damn good thing AppleWorks is coming with it. I'd have hated to tell the guy "well, you know nothing about computers, so I guess you'll either have to shell out huge bucks for MS Office for Mac, or buy an XP box".
While we Nix people like the BSD underneath, one of the Mac's best features is that it's a great machine for for people with ZERO comp expierience to use. Asking one of these people to "put in X, and then compile OpenOffice" kinda kills the easy part, doesn't it? So quit wasting time, and get on that native version, OO.org developers...
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
I was using it on Linux daily, I have not used MS Office for years. When I switched 20 months ago, I had to learn that OO.org is sucking on OS X and nobody really cares about it. It does not look native, slow, big and buggy. Suddenly it just sucked. Macs spoiled me. OS X spoiled me. And it's a good thing. I have changed from hardcore geek to somebody wo does not want to use slow unusable crap.
I wanted the ultimative usability experience and OO.org could not satisfy any of that. Since 20 months I am on search for The Office package. Haven't found one yet. I hope Apple is coming up with one soon, my another hope goes to the KDE + Qt/Mac porting project especially the koffice part of it. I gave AbiWord a shot, but it did not performe well. And there is no matching Spreadsheet app.
OO.org is dead for me. Big, slow, and too many of itch-scratch people working on it. No innovations.
Why not contribute instead of just complaining?
When are people going to stop repeating this tired old line? Just because you have an opinion about the direction of some software, doesn't mean you have time or skills or motivation to contribute yourself, just because the code is there.
For fuck's sake. The OO.o developers do their shit by choice, and they put the results out there of their own accord, for people to use and consume. That means if other people want to use it, and be critical, or say what they think on Slashdot, then they're fucking well entitled to do so.
So can you please stop repeating that tired old mantra of 'shutup or contribute'. It's completely silly and unrealistic.
Porting OO.org to Aqua is a HUGE project and it's not going to be done overnight
All the more reason to be doing it now, rather than, as the parent said, 'pissing in the wind'.
if you want it so badly, give them some help
And finally, he doesn't, he said he's a Nix user. It's other people who want it. And those type of people are the LEAST able to contribute.
Hundreds of ports, doesn't interfere with the rest of your system (at least not with mine), and a nice front end.
/usr/X11R6 (that's what fink tells me), so it can install fink's crappy X11. Ok.. now, two hours later on a dual ghz G4, it runs into a problem compiling one of the zillion dependencies.
Here's my trials with fink: I wanted to install Subversion Client (just the client mind you) for OSX. So I installed fink.. oops, looks like SVNclient requires an update to fink, ok, i run the fink updater.. oops, looks like SVNclient wants to install X, and even though I already have Apple's X11 installed, I have to rm -rf
Fuck that.
Fink is like trying to use DEB and RPM simultaneously.. dependency hell and nothing ever works right.
How anyone who uses OSX could recommend fink is beyond me.. it's like the anti-christ... or at least the anti-osx.
I've tried several versions of OpenOffice.org on OSX and on other systems. My major issue with this project is that it's a complete carbon copy of MS Office. I realise that compatability with MS Office is vitally important to any success of this project, but the entire user interface does not need to be copied. The major reason that I hate using the Windows version of MS Office and earlier versions for the Mac was the god awful interface. It was far too much effort to do simple things like change the font on type size. OpenOffice.org has copied this atrocity of an interface. Frankly, the OSX vesion of MS Office is far better, and pricewise, isn't too bad for a student (3 licenses for $150). If OpenOffice.org can't come up with their own interface, they could at least copy a good one. I have fond memories of Corel WordPerfect 3.5 for MacOS. Look at that.
If it's not on fire, it's a software problem.