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Homeless to be Implanted with Subdermal RFID Tags

An anonymous reader writes "Politech has the scoop on the Bush administration's plans to forcibly implant RFID tags into homeless people in participating U.S. cities. Here's an excerpt from the UPI article: "The miniscule RFID tags are no larger than a matchstick and will be implanted subdermally, meaning under the skin. Data from RFID tracking stations mounted on telephone poles will be transmitted to police and social service workers, who will use custom Windows NT software to track movements of the homeless in real time... A second phase of the project, scheduled to be completed in early 2005, will wirelessly transmit live information on the locations of homeless people to handheld computers running the Windows CE operating system.""

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  1. Because by OtakuHawk · · Score: 4

    No one Cares about the Homeless! /sarcasm)

    1. Re:Because by iggymanz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Today Bush unveiled the new plan to feed America's poor. "The homeless will be ground up into nutritious meat patties and fed to the hungry" he said.

    2. Re:Because by bukamalan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bush would never do this. The poor don't give campaign contributions so why help them and making the poor into meat patties would hurt our cattle growers who do give campaign contributions.

  2. Cool.. by Adam9 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So now we can use geocaching to find homeless people? Awesome!

    1. Re:Cool.. by markov_chain · · Score: 5, Funny

      Great... imagine the logs:

      "Found cache easily. Coordinates a bit off, though. Took empty whiskey bottle, left Play-Doh."

      "Took me a while to find this one, the GPS was all over the place. Cache is in bad shape and smells of liquor. TNLN, thanks for bringing us to this beautiful neighborhood!"

      "Found the cache after some bushwhacking. Our kids enjoyed the chat with the cache owner. Took nothing, left some Ramen noodle soup."

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    2. Re:Cool.. by pete6677 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or have the implant in the form of a small forehead mounted camera and broadcast the images on a new "reality" TV show. Kind of like an unscripted Bumfights.

    3. Re:Cool.. by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Would we call that "War Bumming"?

  3. What the #$%#? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is the most retarded April Fool's day yet. If you can't come up with your own stuff, at least link to people that do. Lucky for Slashdot that Paypal doesn't let you donate a kick in the ass.

    1. Re:What the #$%#? by spen · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is sure to get a reaction with the slashdot crowd though, I mean what are they thinking, this is horrible - Windows!? They should be using Linux!!!

  4. walmart is selling homeless people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That is how I read it.

    1. Re:walmart is selling homeless people? by Sparky77 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yea, and really cheap too, undercutting all the other local homeless people stores and forcing them out of business. That's not right.

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  5. Something's been bugging me for a long long time.. by canwaf · · Score: 5, Funny

    How does CTRL-ALT-DEL work on windows CE?

  6. argh by kertong · · Score: 5, Funny

    with all these april fool's postings, I don't know what to believe anymore!

    (huddles in corner wearing tinfoil hat whilst sucking on thumb)

  7. OK, enough is enough. by zangdesign · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, Bush is evil, but I really doubt he's that evil.

    This sounds like someone's idea of a very bad joke.

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    1. Re:OK, enough is enough. by STrinity · · Score: 4, Funny

      Please tell me this is a joke!

      No, it's absolutely true. Polling shows it'll play well in the midwest.

      In the words of Red Foreman, "Don't be such a dumbass."

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  8. Confound this evil plot! by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can defeat this plot by putting the homeless person in a microwave.

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    1. Re:Confound this evil plot! by idiot900 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Confound this evil plot! (Score:4, Informative)

      You can defeat this plot by putting the homeless person in a microwave.


      I love meta-humor. The moderation of the parent Informative is funnier than the parent's joke itself, and way funnier than the story.

  9. Sure. by AstrumPreliator · · Score: 4, Funny

    who will use custom Windows NT software

    That's a joke all in itself.

  10. Not actually too far from reality by sleeeper · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As someone who manages state homeless grant programs, I have to salute this as very clever. The federal government (HUD/HHS) is acutally pushing these types of tracking systems, albeit in the form of the somewhat less invasive new requirment for Homeless Management Information Systems (HMIS).

    I am invloved in an effort to produce an open source HMIS, so that if we are required to have tracking systems, at least they will be inexpensive and under the control of non-commercial entities. You can see a demo of the open HMIS at: homeless-mis.net It uses PHP and Postgres (or MS-SQL if you like that sort of thing....)

    The idea of integrated information systems actually started with homeless advocates that wanted to improve services through coordinated service delivery. But, like any tool, HMISs can be mis-used, and sometimes you wonder what motiviates these federal requirements.

  11. Windows NT....Real time by dumbnose · · Score: 5, Funny

    You had me up 'til then.

  12. Honestly now... by Bagels · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I sat through all of the crap that's been posted today due to AF, but this is just plain not in good taste. Invasion of privacy by RFID is safe to poach on - maybe one along the lines of Dilbert (PHBs using RFID to track workers) - but the subject of homelessness just plain isn't funny. Reminds me a bit of the TV show that paid homless folks to fight each other...

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  13. Tracking the homeless? by TrentL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why spend the money when it's cheaper to just ignore them like we do now?

  14. This is not entirely a joke. by macshune · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Although the story is an exaggeration of the actual program, which does not use RFID, there is a real program called Homeless Management Information Systems (HMIS) being developed by the Department of Housing and Development. From my cursory glance, it seems as though it's a program to collect data on homeless in the name of cutting down crime and assisting them, rather than full-on movement tracking (think of the infrastructure costs!). Anyhow, EPIC discusses it here

    1. Re:This is not entirely a joke. by paxmark1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Was posted on previously - /. August 19th. Me, I know it is a April fools joke. However, I lived with the homeless for 6 years. Many of the people I lived long term with were either Korean War vets or Vietnam War vets. I found that easier than doing the family side end of it. You never get it out of your head the eyes of some of the homeless kids. It has been 13 years since I lived with the homeless. Best thing I ever did was sell my homeless shelter (Rufus Jones House) to Catholic Social Services for $5. St. Joseph's house has been full ever since of homeless families. And so it is an April Fools' joke. It will be no joke if trends in Yank politics continue, signing off, one US citizen working on landed residency in Canada.

  15. We should put them in criminals too by schmaltz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anybody who has ever been arrested, tried, convicted, of any misdemeanor or above should be tracked using this technology. It's just a good idea - we can keep an eye on criminals.

    Better, you could program the automatic doors of your home or office to not let in tagged criminals.

    By storing the information in XML format, you can interactively query a RFIDed criminal to find out what their background is (violent vs. non-violent, type of theft, drug use, current income level, gender, SSN, credit history, etc.) and let your security system decide on the fly whether you want that particular entity on your premises.

    In fact, governments, building owners, and residents could publish their specification for the type of people they will allow into their space -this will solve all sorts of social ills in the future. The Upper Eastside of New York City, for example, could specify:

    <Entities_Allowed>
    <Income minimum="50000"/>
    <Convictions allowed="white_collar"/>
    <Race allowed="caucasian,asian"/>
    <Memberships disallowed="ACLU,NYCLU"/>
    <Jokes onyou="april foools" ;>
    </Entities_Allowed>

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  16. Re:One step closer to a Gattacan Society.... by Ingolfke · · Score: 5, Funny

    Humm... as far as I know there is no guarantee in The Constitution stating that the government CAN'T implant RFID tags (and shock devices, cause that's really where we're going w/ this) into you, your dog , and the homeless guy living down the street. What are you trying to hide? Aren't you a patriot? Don't resits, assamiliate... it's much safer ;)

    And Howard Dean said "GwaUEAUEAAUE".

  17. Simple. Microsoft borrowed technology... by MachDelta · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...from Etch-a-Sketch for WinCE. So a reboot is as simple as shaking it!

  18. I agree, implanted ID tags are crazy by sleeeper · · Score: 4, Informative
    "Clever" as in "takes a real issue, and pushes it one step further into an uncomfortable area."

    This was obviously written by someone who works with homeless programs. PATH is a real program, funded under the McKinney grant, and they are actually deploying Palms to collect data on mentally ill homeless persons.

    On any other day, I would actually have believed this for half a second. Clearly, there are big privacy issues with collecting any sort of information on people. The current requirements make me any many others very uncomfortable. The federal government has actually received quite a bit of push back over this issue, and the final rule has been delayed for more than a year as a result of the privacy concerns.

    Thankfully, it look like HUD will be making significant concessions to address community concerns, that will result in a final requirement that better protects client privacy.

  19. Re:One step closer to a Gattacan Society.... by Free_Meson · · Score: 4, Funny
    assamiliate


    You misspelled "assmutilate"
  20. Re:One step closer to a Gattacan Society.... by iminplaya · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The homeless are the only group that's not being tracked at the moment.
    All the rest of you are already being tracked by your:
    credit card
    membership card (wall mart, sams, grocery store, etc.)
    utility bills
    bank
    employer(time cards, drug testing, etc.)
    state ID
    IRS
    ISP
    slashdot(you never know)
    Did I miss anything?

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  21. Re:One step closer to a Gattacan Society.... by RY · · Score: 4, Funny

    RFID chips in dental work

    How else do you think the "identify" people by their dental records.

  22. No larger than a MATCHSTICK ...?! by handy_vandal · · Score: 4, Funny

    The miniscule RFID tags are no larger than a matchstick and will be implanted subdermally, meaning under the skin

    Dude, I don't know about your matchsticks ... but the kind I use are known as "Farmer's Matches", and they're huge!

    -kgj

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  23. re: Soylent Green by MADCOWbeserk · · Score: 4, Funny

    How does it taste? It varies from person to person.

  24. Homeless Buying Microwave Ovens? by core+plexus · · Score: 5, Funny
    That reminds me of a story.

    A few years ago, I went into a Sears to buy a new microwave oven. They had a display model that was really cheap, so I decided to buy it. The sale associate says "Whats your name" and I say "Why do you need my name? I'm paying cash for this" and he replies "Because the computer tells me to".

    I ask "Does the computer tell you other things?" He doesn't get it. So I say "Jackie Brown" (just watched the movie the night before). He says "Huh? But..." but types it in anyway. Then he asks for my address. I reply "I don't have an address, I'm homeless." Mind you, I'm wearing nice clothes, driving a new car, etc. He asks "If you're homeless, then why do you need a microwave?" I respond "Because I don't have one." Increasingly frustrated, he says "I have to put something in." So I pick up a card and read the stores address to him. By this time a couple of other bored sales associates have come round. He doesn't like my answer, but types it in anyway. Then I pull a fat wad out of my pocket and peel off a hundred. And walk out with my oven.

    -cp-