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Google's Early Hardware

revjonnylove writes "Ever wonder what Google's early hardware looked like? Well, wonder no more. Thanks to Archive.org's Way Back Machine, we can all bask in the glory of Google's home made HDD cases, constructed partially of Lego, as well as other neat-o toys. Is that a PowerPC logo I see on one of their servers?"

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  1. Not bad! by CptChipJew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are 9 9Gdrives between the two machines...The left box has 3 9G drives, and there are 6 4G drives on the right...This IBMdisk expansion box has another 8 9G drives...This is our homemade disk box which contains 10 9G SCSI drives

    294 GB? That's a pretty damn nice mostly donated setup for 1997. This was '97 right?

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    1. Re:Not bad! by BJH · · Score: 5, Informative

      Looking at the Wayback Machine link, it appears to be a snapshot from 1999. Of course, Google could have obtained this hardware well before then.

    2. Re:Not bad! by CptChipJew · · Score: 5, Informative

      It seems it was started as a project at Stanford, and took off from there, here's a link to an archive of the old site.

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  2. Gmail by gid13 · · Score: 4, Funny

    1GB per person. Servers made of Lego. No April Fools.

    1. Re:Gmail by NeoThermic · · Score: 4, Informative

      Repeat after me: Its Lego, not Legos. Lego is shortend from Leg Godt, which is Danish, and means Play Good. The amazing thing is, its plural and singular at the same time, so you don't need the S.

      NeoThermic

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    2. Re:Gmail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Repeat after me: It's "it's," not "its." Its does not mean "it is."

  3. Its amazing... by sailor420 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its amazing to think that search engine used to run on just that.

    Id be interested to see what their current hardware is like.

    1. Re:Its amazing... by Ghost_MH · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, imagine a Beowulf cluster of pigeons.

    2. Re:Its amazing... by iwein · · Score: 5, Informative

      here, i googled for you

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    3. Re:Its amazing... by RazorX90 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Now, to techs that seems hilarious...but you know for every 10 of us, there is a housewife telling all her friends Google operates on birdfeed.

  4. It give us hope by thammoud · · Score: 5, Insightful

    us pee ons that we can still create something very special with almost nothing but scrapped together hardware. Who said that we need millions to implement great ideas ?

    1. Re:It give us hope by PacoTaco · · Score: 5, Funny
      us pee ons

      How often does this happen to you?

    2. Re:It give us hope by black+mariah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They were at college. They probably called up the guy at IBM that handles giving shit out and said "Hey, IBM Giving Shit Out Dude, give some shit to us." Or something to that effect. If you're doing some kind of research I'm sure IBM and most other companies would be willing to cut you a deal or donate hardware to your project.

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    3. Re:It give us hope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      They probably have an entire "Giving Shit Out" department.

  5. Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With a hard drive case made of LEGOs and under a dozen computers google managed to become the world's most powerful search tool.

  6. PPC by boarder8925 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Is that a PowerPC logo I see on one of their servers?
    Looks that way.
    1. Re:PPC by Spacelord · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes it is an IBM RS/6000 F50 which does indeed have a powerpc processor, and usually runs IBM's own version of Unix, namely AIX. I've configured plenty of those back in 98/99.

      I do wonder what OS runs (or used to run) on that machine though, AIX or (Yellowdog?) Linux?

    2. Re:PPC by niks42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually I do have a copy of Win NT version 3.51 and the ARC boot diskette for PPC (but only boots on PREP machines, and the F50 above is not a PREP machine ;-) ) .. It does boot, it kind of works OK and its fine as an OS goes , but things that run in that environment are scarce. I think IBM dropped NT in a deal with Microsoft when M$ dropped NT support for MIPS.

  7. I remember those 9Gig drives when new by shoppa · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I remember when those 9 Gig drives were new. Street price was $4000 or $5000 each.

    Last time I checked, those same model drives were listing for $5 on E-bay but not selling... it'd cost way more to ship them.

  8. That's not lego by Moth7 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's duplo you insensitive clod!

  9. standard by Cheeze · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think those types of setups are familiar to just about anyone that was in the computer arena in the early to mid-nineties. Having random machine without cases, 10 keyboards that may or may not be plugged in, and horrible wiring is probably how many of the top technological companies started. I am sure now it's all properly racked up with labeled cables and a KVM switch, but before the funding, I bet most companies run on old workstations. I thought the lego disk array was appropriate. I wonder what a fire marshal would have to say about their setup.

    I think the worst setup I have seen was a previous company I worked for. They had a satellite office that just contained hardware. Well, no one ever went there, and for good reason. It housed quite a bit of old dialup gear, analog dialup gear, complete with external serial 28.8 modems. they were just stacked up all over the place. good thing they thought ahead and got modems with volume knobs, or you would be able to hear each person dialing in. The plastic racks all of the gear was sitting on was so old, it had started cracking and was a hazard to be around. It all worked somehow though. ahh...the good old days.

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  10. Compensation by erbert · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm no psychologist but I'm pretty sure the simplicity of Google's site design could be an attempt to balance the chaos of their hardware and wiring setup

    1. Re:Compensation by panurge · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, it isn't, it's because the marketing drones who think up cluttered sites like MSN would have declined jobs at a company with such deeply uncool hardware.

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  11. Any recent photos? by lyberth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How does it look today?
    how do they manage the wirering to all those servers today?

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  12. I love Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I love Google and want to have like a million of its babies. I want to print out Google's front page and rub it against my naked body. Actually, I've done it once already, got some nasty paper cuts. But it was worth it.

    I LOVE GOOGLE

    1. Re:I love Google by hot_Karls_bad_cavern · · Score: 3, Funny

      "...print out Google's front page and rub it against my naked body."

      OI! Wash that before you give it back!

  13. Orignal "About Google" Page by hot_Karls_bad_cavern · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Orignal "About Google" Page by 1Oman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      From that page:
      Current Development: Sergey Brin, Larry Page, and Craig Silverstein

      I wonder what happend to this Craig Silverstein fellow.
      Sergey And Larry were like "we're gonna start a serach engine company" and he was like "theres no money in that, I'm going into banner ads".

  14. storage, then and now by dankelley · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Less than a decade later, this sort of storage sits in an ipod. A decade before, we stored 'big' datasets on 20Meg disks.

    It's amazing, how hardware changes.

    But human-scale things remain the same. It still takes the same time to write a /. comment, or to sigh.

  15. I thought they used a bunch of pidgeons? by Mudcathi · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fowl hardware: pidgeons

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  16. The first two are Dell Poweredge 4200's by Mercury2k · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those who are wondering, I happen to own two of the very same machines in the top two pictures lol! They are Dell Poweredge 4200 machines with the logo plates removed! The specs are roughly this:

    Dual CPU capable (max 333mhz)
    Max RAM 512MB Bios Limit (66mhz EDO SDRAM)
    6x80pin SCA drive bays
    Dual 700 watt hot swap power supplies
    Built in VGA (ATI Mach64 VT 1MB)

    For the record, they typically ship with AMI Megaraid 428 (or higher) hardware raid cards. But the onboard SCSI2 is Adaptec AIC-7860 & 7880. Also worth mentioning, they are clusterable using Windows NT. I grabbed these machines off machine and local computer store and have been very stable work horses running Debian! (www.emaildesktop.com).
    Just glad to see that these machines were useful in their days!

  17. More pictures... by midimonkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    In case you're having a hard time loading the images from the story, you can find some other images here.

  18. How many servers now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Last I heard Google has a serverfarm of 8000 machines but how many do they have today?

    Just to lighten up a little, check out a little story by Verity Stob on Life in the Google Farm.

  19. video of a lecture about google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you have broadband and a spare hour, have a look at this lecture about google by Urs Holzle. Its reasonably light on hard-core specifics, but he covers some interesting things like determining the relevance of a page, hosting problems due to very high power density, failure rates of hardware etc etc.

    Interesting stuff.

  20. Imagine by iLEZ · · Score: 3, Funny

    Imagine a Beowulf cluster of.. nah..

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  21. let's get some info on the current setup by iwein · · Score: 5, Interesting

    getting some info of google's current hardware in here seems a good idea. here goes.

    here is a nice article. The company estimates that a server running Google applications all day is the equivalent of 40 years of use in a regular context. Approximately 82 of these servers die every day, but not completely; Google employs maintenance people who walk around with carts of hard disks, for example, and replace them in malfunctioning servers or UPSes.

    now for some pics... damn. can't find them with google :). i'll post them if i have them.
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  22. The Brits on the board will be with me when I say by IainMH · · Score: 4, Funny

    if only the Glastonbury ticket service was on such a powerful set up.

    Dual Pentium IIs?

    Luxury.

  23. ROFL! by BReflection · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone else see this picture of Sergey in a speed-o? Here is another one of him IN DRAG. I kid you not!

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  24. Legos? Duplos! by stick_figure_of_doom · · Score: 5, Informative

    Those are not legos! I remember those things from way back when, they're Duplos. They're way bigger than Legos, and they don't cut your foot when you step on them. They're designed so that little kids can't hurt themselves. I never thought I'd see those again.

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  25. I am an idiot! by John+Harrison · · Score: 4, Interesting
    There was a database class offered at Stanford that was advertised as being about "things you could do with our db of 1/3rd of the internet's text, including links."

    This sounded interesting, but I hated the prof so I didn't take it. This class turned out to be related to the Google project of course and many of the people who took it ended up at the company.

    My other brush with Google greatness was being designated driver for Larry (friend of a friend). This was before anyone knew about Google.

  26. Re:Slashdot.... back in 1997 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How is that sad? You can read this page can't you? It works doesn't it? No need to update. Simply no need.

    Please /. don't come up with some god-awful CSS nerd-style site!

    Thanks.

  27. What Really Happened to Craig Silverstein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  28. Impressive... by mrscott · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At my previous job, I was responsible for the web services for a financial services company. We hosted our stuff at a data center in Herndon, VA. Some of Google's hardware happened to be in a wire cage that I walked by every day and it was pretty damn impressive. 42U racks, with either 42 or 84 (back to back, 42U high) servers in each one and about 6-8 racks per cage. I will admit that my "technical ego" was bruised a little since I wanted it for myself... :-)

  29. Re:Slashdot.... back in 1997 by Bake · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As others have pointed out before me, there is quite a lot of bandwidth to be saved for Slashdot to switch over to a CSS based web. The content will be MORE ACCESSIBLE TO OTHER DEVICES. It'll actually have a better chance of getting validated as anything. Right now it doesn't even rank good enough to validate as HTML 3.2*.

    Why do you consider CSS "god-awful" as you put it? Is it because you can't grok it, or are you the type that would prefer a compiler that assumes when statements end and puts in its own end-of-statement marker instead of doing the right thing and bitch about it in the compiler output?

    *It would appear that the powers that be here on Slashdot aren't too happy with people trying to validate the site as the W3c validator received a HTTP 403, Denied from slashdot.org

  30. Re:Hey by Beowulf_Boy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Pffff...
    in my 10x10 dorm room, I have the following
    1 20" monitor
    2 17" monitors
    3 computer towers
    3 laptops
    1 12 port Bay Networks Switch
    1 48 port 10mb hub
    1 10 port 10mb hub
    1 4 port wireless 802.11B switch
    2 phones
    2.1 Klipsch Speakers
    2 Jensen Speakers
    1 32" TV
    1 old ass half working VCR
    1 giant rubbermaid thing full of spair parts

    And the campus network people looked at me funny when I asked for a second mac address identity when I brought down my second computer. They got scared when I brought the third, and after that I just stuck everything behind a router so they wouldn't bitch.

    It gets 90* or so in here if I don't open the window or run the AC full blast.