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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Glows With Chernobyl Radioactive Link
Thanks to Eurogamer for its coverage of a THQ-sponsored press trip to Russia to preview GSC's forthclming PC first-person shooter. Since the game is "based on the premise that you've gone to explore the 20km 'exclusion zone' of Chernobyl", this has led to some odd preview publicity, as the writer notes: "When they invited us on a cheery tour to go and see Chernobyl for fun, we knew something had gone awry in our lives. Stranger still, during the press conference to promote the much anticipated mutate 'em up S.T.A.L.K.E.R, they wheeled one of the men responsible for the tragedy. I didn't know whether to laugh or throw things." There's also an interview with one of the developers on Eurogamer regarding this September-bound title, but it's concluded that S.T.A.L.K.E.R, with its impressive visuals, is "...shaping up to be one of the scariest, most original takes on the increasingly tired FPS genre."
I for one, hope they make a skin of Elena playable in the game :)
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Unfortunately, this press event sounds like it is in really bad taste. The actual Chernobyl disaster was horrible. Making a game out of it is one thing, as it is sure to be fictionalized and live in a world separate from our own.
When THQ "wheeled one of the men responsible for the tragedy" out, that's just terrible. The lines of reality and fiction are being crossed and in a horrible way. For GTA4, I suggest they bring out real car-jackers to show the folks a good time.
God Bless America. Why? Did it sneeze?
They *still* put iodine in all Danish salt because of the idiots who pushed the wrong buttons.
They *still* put iodine in all Danish salt because of the idiots who pushed the wrong buttons.
Uh... don't they do that everywhere anyway?
- and impressive bandwith. I'm experiencing almost 100 KB/s download of their trailer - I can hardly get that *anywhere*.
You can see some photographs of the real site here... http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/ With some comentary contrary to the premise of the game.
Why the hell didn't they make games like this when I Had time to play them?
The actual Chernobyl disaster was horrible. Yeah, well, so was World War II, but there's been no shortage of games based on it and no one complains.
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As I understood my history and geography teachers, they first started doing that by the end of the 80s because of events that had unfolded shortly before that.
Um, yeah, Chernobyl was an accident, mmmkay? Didn't you get the memo?
Condemnant quod non intellegunt.
Stalker was a 1979 Film by Russian Director Andrei Tarkovsky. It is loosely based on a novella called Roadside Picnic by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky.
Incredible stuff and I highly recommend it. It is the first thing I thought of when I saw Elena's first set of pictures. If you get a chance to see it, do so--but be warned, it is very long and very slow. If you are a fan of film worth checking out. If you only go see films with pyrotechnics, take a pass.
It's just a matter of letting the appropriate amount of time pass really! And avoiding the political taboos of the time.
We had Iodine in our salt in Sweden long before Chernobyl. A few seconds in Google confirms this: The Iodine is added to prevent a serious medical condition (iodine deficiency leading to endemic goiter), it's not due to radiation poisoning, even though Iodine (in higher doses) could be used to help prevent damage to the thyroid gland in case of a nuclear accident. Inhabitants living nearby Swedish reactors were issued Iodine pills to stockpile before the reactors were started.
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Take the open-ended gameplay and post-apocalyptic atmosphere of Fallout, add the skill-based semi-RPG characteristics of the original Zelda, and you've got this game. Could very well turn out to be a sleeper hit.
I like the way that Zelda allowed you to progress in an open-ended style as far as your skill allowed you to go. You could skip the extra heart containers, more powerful swords and the rings if you were really hardcore.
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They aren't wheeling Hitler's corpse out for the press conference, are they?
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When did THQ hire Acclaim's press agent?
Here in San Diego, CA, we are close to a reactor at San Onofre. They've recently considered sending everyone idoine tablets to keep in case on an emergency, but the $$$ factor kicked in (CA is in the midst of a budget crisis, and that combined with military cutbacks and the slump in the tech industry has started to affect San Diego's economy).
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How does the game industry get away with crap like this? A better question is: how does the gaming press let the gaming industry get away with crap like this? I get as annoyed with the mainstream media as much as anyone (I'm an avid Daily Show fan, which I suppose is now as mainstream as anything but that's another post). But if, say, the film industry tried to pull a stunt like this, the mainstream media would've dogpiled on the company that did it.
So where's the gaming media? Ohhhh, they're too busy jacking off to screenshots . The gaming industry needs to grow some gonads, with the exception of that French guy who stood up and walked out, no doubt his massive balls dragging on the floor as he exited. I'm not asking for an over-reaction of politically-correct-ness. I want people to say controversial things. But this isn't controversial in content or idealogy. It's no less than someone pissing on the ruins of the WTC, but pissing on the ruins only because someone promised him $5 if he did it, not because he had anything to say about the WTC or had any idea of what it meant. Someone clueless about 9-11 and pissing on the WTC for $5, or having a press conference at Chernobyl to promote a game are the same thing.
Something like that might be actually worthy of attention, if the purpose was some form of punk anarchistic expression, or the thought behind it was something like, "I'm going to show how worthless this is." But this whole STALKER thing, and all the Vietnam and WWII games that have suddenly grown out of game developers' asses; it's a bunch of morons sitting in an office thinking, "Hey, what can we do to make more money?' It's some boob for a PR rep who sat in his office and brainstormed on a white board on how to better sell the game. The meaning of these places and events have become lost to these people. Vietnam games, WWII games, promoting STALKER in Chernobyl; they're not controversial expressions, they're accidental Whiteboard Nihilism.
err.......u can make a movie bout it but not a game? U can write a book but not a game? U can creat a website n' post it on slashdot but not a game? my suggestion....don't like it, don't play it. But don't ban it from me.....fps is all I like....I don't have time for rpg's...they bait ya into hours of nonesense. Other types of games just don't intrest me..boring. my base's DONT belong too u.......hahahaha
To his credit, the writer raises up front the issue of the appropriateness of certain elements of the trip.
To his discredit, he then lets go of the issue just as quickly--with a potshot at a journalist who had the temerity to accept a free drink--and from there on in, it's all game, game and game. ("It looks staggeringly beautiful, and takes PC visuals to a place we've all been looking forward to for a long, long time.")
Indeed, beyond a reference to the 20 km "exclusion zone" around Chernobyl in which S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is set, the piece barely acknowledges the event itself. No reference to the deaths from the explosion and radiation at the nuclear reactor near Kiev, the courage of the people who contained the fire, the vastly increased risk of thyroid cancer among Ukrainian young people from the release of radiation, or the evacuation and resettlement of an estimated 326,000 people.
Not even the date (1986).
And while the writer does mention "reactor," it's only to inform us that "the small team at GSC actually went themselves down to the stricken reactor to gather source material, and have done a fantastic job of replicating the rust and decay."
But let's step beyond the article for a moment. It's amazing to me that someone would build a game around a relatively recent event that has been such a source of misery to the Ukraine.
Hell, make up a reactor accident in an imaginary country--if only to spare people's feelings. It is further amazing that THQ would actually bring journalists to Chernobyl to promote the game--this surpasses the recent deliberate-bad-taste publicity stunts by Acclaim--and that a journalist could go ... and then produce coverage that skirts the disaster itself.
How about a few pointed questions to THQ and GSC reps on the issue of taste? How about a word from people who live in the area on how they feel about the game? How about even a passing reference to what happened that April night in 1986?
Time does have a way of softening the impact of events. Almost 30 years after the fall of Saigon, we've started to see games based on the Vietnam War. (I don't see the analogy that another poster drew to World War II. That was the defining event of the 20th century, and its outcome defined much of the world for the 34 years that followed.)
I'm unsure where exactly to draw the line, but I don't think 18 years is enough. Game developers need to think harder about this issue before turning a national tragedy into a shooting game. And gaming publications need to question of the value of such trips and the quality of the coverage they produce.
What's next? In 15 years, are we going to see a game based around the collapse of the World Trade Center towers?
I'll answer that question right now: Without a doubt.
I hope the English translation of the game is better than the English on the game's website.
For great justice.
so which exactly is more 'bad', making a game about an accident which directly or indirectly made tens of thousands lives shorter or about a war that was intentionally started(in hate) and ended up having millions of people dead?
stalker has very little to do with the actual accident though, the s.t.a.l.k.e.r.s setting(denying that it's heavily based on strugatsky brothers stalker book would be just ridiculous) was made up long before chernobyl happened(there's even a movie made in '79). it just happens so that the area(of chernobyl now) looks exactly like the area portrayed in their novel(all the way to abandoned buildings, homes left as they were, rusting cars, deadly traps you can't see.. ). It was quite hard to look at those pictures(of the motorbiker girl) and not make a mental connection to the eerie world of strugatskys stalkers.
my personal guess as to why they chose chernobyl as the cause of the anomalies(rather than aliens) is that it probably makes more sense to people unfamiliar with the book than just saying that 'some aliens or something'.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
But this isn't controversial in content or idealogy.
Great point. Games can be fun diversions. A game about Chernobyl could be fun. But what does holding the press conference at Chernobyl mean? It's tasteless. I can understand making Medal Of Honor, but they're not promoting it at Normandy or Pearl Harbor or at a Concentration Camp.
Making the game is one thing, doing a controversial PR session just to be edging is, frankly, annoying.
God Bless America. Why? Did it sneeze?
seeing as I've always heard it reported those in the control room made the decisions that lead to the disaster, and that everyone in the control room died....well it makes me think something in there didn't get conjugated or something. So instead of "in charge of" it sounds like "caused."
Of course I could be horribly misinformed, in which case, can you think of a better job for the guy, to spend the rest of his life as a tour guide for the wasteland he had a part in creating.
I really hope they gave some credit to Andrei Tarkovsky.
so which exactly is more 'bad', making a game about an accident which directly or indirectly made tens of thousands lives shorter or about a war that was intentionally started(in hate) and ended up having millions of people dead?
Ummm, but World War II ended thanks to the heroism of many men and women across the world, and Hitler and the Nazi's were destroyed. Ultimately good triumphed over evil.
There was nothing good in the story of Chernobyl.
Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
So, yeah. I should be working right now, actually.
There was nothing good in the story of Chernobyl.
Hmm... what about the firefighters/engineers who went back into high radiation areas to shut equipment off or perform other rescue tasks, knowing they were condemning themselves to a slow death of radiation sickness to save their younger colleagues?
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I don't think Hitler's corpse is available. Mao's corpse is available though... I don't know if there are any video games about the cultural revolution, or anything else you could actually use it as publicity for though.
How could someone go into a place with enough radiation to kill them and then save someone WHO'S ALREADY THERE? Both of them would die.
surely it was a show of heroism that they tried, even though in the end, it was futile.
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I think they would know it was radiation - the whole cracked open reactor and all. Also, the radiation lethality depends on the time and intensity - if one person went back several times, they could receive a cumulatively lethal dose, whereas a person who left the area might survive. In addition, many of the heroic actions they took were not futile - the firemen putting out the burning graphite moderator probably prevented an even greater release of radioactive particles (from the smoke, etc), also somebody would have to shutoff lines spewing radioactive steam, electrical breakers vulnerable to fire, etc, so some of the actions were to save more than an individual trapped person.
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...the accident happened _before_ they had the idea for the game.
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True, but the developers of Battlefield 1942 didn't roll out a Hitler or Mussolini look-alike to promote their game either.
You have to remember this was Russia, one of the heights of misinformation.
I doubt the Russian people, not even the firefighters, even knew of the true dangers of nuclear reactor. Unless those firefighters were trained nuclear techs, they were property ordered to take those parts out. Though I am not saying they weren't doing heroic things, I just wish they had the choice and the knowledge before hand.
I mean the firefighters at 9/11 might of not known the building was going to collapse, they DID however know the dangers going up those buildings to help people.
Well, I think it's not for an American to decide (assuming you are American). The developers are Russian/Ukrainian and they live close to Chernobyl (their office is currently in about 60 km from the Zone). Their own lives and lives of their relatives have certainly been affected, so they aren't outsiders exploiting the disaster.
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Would you be opposed to a guy pissing on the ruins of WTC if he barely escaped from one of the towers himself and lost a wife and both parents there? And who above all else lost a hand in Afganistan, looking for Bin Laden?
The developers live next to Chernobyl, it's their history, it's a part of their life and they have every right to do everything they did. I am sure at least one of them lost a friend or relative in the past because of the accident. If you followed the development more closely, you would not suspect them for being disrespectful (judging from all the interviews they gave). Probably the problem here was that the French guy had little experience of cross-cultural communications and saw disrespect where there was none.
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