Mozilla 1.7 to Become New Long-Lived Branch

iswm writes "MozillaZine has announced that the Mozilla 1.7 branch will become the new long-lived stable branch, replacing 1.4. The stable branch is intended to act as a baseline for developers building Mozilla-based products, with critical bugs fixed on the branch as well as the trunk. Mozilla Firefox 1.0, a new milestone of Mozilla Thunderbird, a new Camino release and several third party Mozilla based products will be based on Mozilla 1.7, so the Foundation is making efforts to ensure that it is high quality."

Comments

Yeah, never mind the long life branch

[gilesjuk]

How about a long life brandname for Mozilla Firefox?

I'd suggest Mozilla lite or Mozilla Express.

Re:Yeah, never mind the long life branch

[SeaFox]

Wouldn't that mean the Mozilla group could just rename FireFox to 'Internet Explorer' and Microsoft couldn't do anything because they'd be able to use Microsoft's own arguements against them in court?

Mozilla vs. Firefox

[moberry]

On a decnet computer IE will load in just a second or two. In contrast Mozilla takes at least 10 seconds before you get anything on the screen. Firefox is just as fast as IE. However. probably a good 50% of explorer is already loaded all that needs to be done is draw a new window, this can be proven by crashing IE (not hard) alot of times the whole desktop disapears. This shows how well firefox is written because it must load entirely from scratch.

Re:Deleting bookmarks

[Matrix272]

As I tell all my users when one person has a problem they can't really document, but when everyone else is working fine... If you can't show me any evidence of it, or give more details on what exactly happens and when, then I have to conclude you're doing something wrong.

Re:Could it be made any more confusing?

[colinramsay]

Except, it's not a choice. If you want the best version of Mozilla, download it from moz.org. How hard can it be? All this stuff is transparent to end-users, it's only techies that see the branch/trunk discussions.

To answer your last question

[Anonymous Coward]

And why does Mozilla prevent links to it via Slashdot? If I create a link it says "Ook! Sorry, links to Bugzilla from Slashdot are disabled."

Because the developers use Bugzilla, and a slashdotted bugzilla means they cannot get their work done.

Re:Deleting bookmarks

[Malc]

Most users have no way of knowing whether they're doing something wrong or not. Thus telling them that they're doing something wrong without telling them exactly what won't remedy the situation, and will probably cause stress and frustration. And you wonder why people are scared of computers or why many people in a business environment have a low opinion of the IT staff.

features

[adamruck]

ok.... here is my question. When are they going to make a version of mozilla that comes all set up and ready to go when it comes to things like flash and java? Look I know that there are pluggins, and if you follow instructions carefully its not hard. But thit isn't the days of kernel 2.2.... I shouldn't have to sym link stuff anymore. How about a little box that comes up during install that askes if you would like to install java or flash support?

One more thing.... when are they going to include neat things like... right click -> kill a frame... start/stop animation... block image(not all images from the server... thats different)?

Well those are the two things I would like. I love mozilla, it rocks. I have never had it crash... even with like 20 tabs open. Thx Mozilla dev people.

Re:OSS Conumer Relations: Call you customers idiot

[David Hume]

I am sick of all these "attitudes like this " posts..

Let's face it , most proprietory products that you speak of are none easier to use than linux products.

It may or may not be true that "most proprietory products... are none easier to use than linux products." But that wasn't my point. (Btw, precisely which "proprietary products" did my prior post refer to?)

The point of the my prior post is that the advocates and proponents of non-OSS software do not, as a rule, refer to their customers in public forums as "a mass of ignorant idiots who apparently exist to make problems and keep help lines busy." Calling your cumstomers names is not good public relations. Adopting the irrebutable assumption that any difficulty your customers have in using your product is solely due to the fact that they are "ignorant idiots" does lead to a culture supporting product improvement or increasing market share.

There are those who try to learn what their customers want, and deliver it.

Then there are those who try to tell their customers what they should want, what they ought to do, and call their customers names.

I want more people to use OSS software. Thus, I'm sick of "consumers are a mass of ignorant idiot posts" which serve no purpose other than to insult consumers and excuse inferior design.