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Software Vending Machines

anubis__ writes "CNN details a sort-of software vending machine named 'SoftwareToGo' that CompUSA is testing out in their Seattle, WA, Dallas, TX, and San Francisco, CA stores. The upside to this vending machine is that your CD is burned when you request it, so the latest patches available for the software you're buying might already be included with the installation. The downside, like anything requiring some level of technical aptitude in the US, is that the machines are avoided by the masses of shoppers." This has been in the works for a year or so.

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  1. Good Idea but . . . by Thanatopsis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The public has in the past shown an aversion to these sorts of machines. Complex vending machines look intimidating, usually are hard to use and the consumer if often afraid of "accidently" buying something or "breaking" the machine.

  2. Why not download? by JoScherl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IF I want some burned software I can download it from the net - even after paying for it ;-)
    But if I go to a shop I want a pressed CD - these hold longer.

  3. Exactly what software will be on this? by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not games, or most desktop-targetted apps, because you can't burn their precious anti-copying schemes.

    And if it was going to be higher-end office type stuff, like OS's or DVD authoring, or ANYTHING that costs 19.99 or higher, and people are going to want the box, the official CD, and most of all - THE MANUAL.

    Dead tree manuals are easier to read than some .pdf or README file.

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  4. Another solution in need of a problem.... by djh101010 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow. I can't tell you how many times I've said "Gee, I'd really like to buy software from a vending machine at a computer store". I mean, it's so much easier than just pulling it down off the shelf, and there are so few things that could go wrong with this.

    OK, sarcasm aside, if I'm going to buy software from a store, I want the box, a paper manual, and all that other stuff that goes with shrinwrap software. If I wanted a CD-R and no printed materials, there are other ways to do it.

  5. Skeptical by l810c · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I've just closed up shop on a DVD Rental business a friend and I tried on the side the past year and a half. There are thousands of these machines in Europe and there are several companies that tried it here in the states. I don't think any of them are doing well.

    The downside, like anything requiring some level of technical aptitude in the US, is that the machines are avoided by the masses of shoppers

    He's right on here. Despite being more convienient to a college campus and half the price, people just didn't want to use a machine. There is a different mindset for poeple who know what they want and shop online, most people, however, seem to want to look and touch before they buy.

  6. Re:This might work out for the rare stuff by Allen+Zadr · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Paper manual might be a bit much, but certainly - 'cheat-sheet' style print-outs would be VERY useful. Esp. when learning a new game - "What's the keystroke to walk sideways again?" The full manual can be a PDF, but a cheat sheet or two are extremely usefull (and usually isn't found in printable form, instead it's across 5 to 8 pages across two or more PDFs).

    Basically, if something comes with a cheat sheet, I could care less about a printed manual, but without a cheat sheet, the manual is a must.

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  7. Re:How is this better? by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "I really don't see the market unless you are stuck on a 56K modem"

    ...considering that 80% of the users online are stuck on a 56K modem (usually running at a way slower speed), I'd readily call this a nice-sized market.

    The only real problem is that the one thing that would benefit the most from patching (OSes) will most likely be missing from the selection.

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  8. Here's my prediction by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In a few years, these are in every CompUSA, but selling those shareware/PD collections, game demos, windows service packs, maybe a linux distro. Cheap stuff, a couple bucks a CD.

    They'll make a decent profit off of it, and people will like it because it's easier than scraping download.com.

    NOONE is going to stick their credit card in a vending machine and trust it to spit out a $500 photo-editing suite or a copy of Windows Server. Well, some would, I wouldnt.

    And as for games, well, people who pay retail prices for games want the box for teh shelf. Besides, as I already said in this story, you cant burn the copy protection.

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  9. Re:Basic Problems by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the problem here is that CompUSA thinks people want traditional software from a vending machine. What people actually want is *cheap* software from a vending machine. i.e. I insert a five dollar bill into the machine, and a copy of Mozilla, Linux, iTunes, etc. pops out. I've now saved myself a huge download and burn processes, all for the low cost of a couple of bucks.

    Jack the price up to $50-$200, and people will start expecting more. They'll want shrinkwrapping, manuals, free little dodads that come in the box, and other niceties. No way they're going to be thinking about getting *that* out of a vending machine.

  10. Re:One problem... by alecks · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the long term, say 6-8 months, I find that alot of my burned disks become unreadable User Error me thinks. I have cds over 5 years old, some scratched to hell, and I can still read them perfectly fine.

  11. Dead in the water by SheldonYoung · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a system that has only one real customer, the merchant. It's sole purpose is to make life easier for the retailer and provides very, very few benefits to the consumer. It has all of the hassle of buying from a brick and mortar store with none of the benefits.

    The only advantage of a software vending machine to the consumer is that they always get the latest version of the software. In any reasonably stocked computer store this shouldn't be an issue anyway.

  12. Re:Basic Problems by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So why not install the machine in a library, put on OpenOffice, Mozilla, GIMP, GRASS, Knoppix, Blender, and anything else that takes a week to download via modem?

  13. Sounds like a bad idea to me... by natron+2.0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Think of all the things that could go wrong...

    1. Bad burns. Who do you go to if you get a bad copy? Can you get a refund?
    2. Who maintains the file server that the vending machine uses. I am sure a rouge CompUSA employee could easily throw a virus or two on the ISOs.
    3. How do you get the CD key?
    4. Who wants to stand there and wait for a CD to burn?
    5. I hope they use a damn good burner, most will wear out rather quickly.

    Not a sermon, just a thought.

    1. Re:Sounds like a bad idea to me... by thebatlab · · Score: 3, Insightful

      1. Bad burns. Who do you go to if you get a bad copy? Can you get a refund?

      Of course they'll offer a refund. Odds are they'll be checking the disk before spitting it out to ensure it's at least readable or even verify the whole thing.

      2. Who maintains the file server that the vending machine uses. I am sure a rouge CompUSA employee could easily throw a virus or two on the ISOs.

      This is a possibility I guess. Odds are they've thought of it but whether they've taken steps to prevent it...

      3. How do you get the CD key?

      Printed on a CD jewel case cover maybe.

      4. Who wants to stand there and wait for a CD to burn?

      The whole 2 minutes? There are like 52x burners out there last I checked. Maybe even faster. My 24x burns a full cd in like 5 minutes. So you figure out what you want, start a burn, browse the store a bit more, come back and there you go. Or you stand there and look at the shiny dials and lights.

      5. I hope they use a damn good burner, most will wear out rather quickly.

      They're probably using a Cicero...ok I mean, yes the burners could wear out. I'm sure they are prepared for that scenario.

  14. Latest patches: Do we know this is true? by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The upside to this vending machine is that your CD is burned when you request it, so the latest patches available for the software you're buying might already be included with the installation.

    Do we know this?

    Personally I think this is just another way to charge the same price for less product and less service.

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  15. This existed 15 years ago: EDOS by paugq · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My God! We are reinventing the wheel.

    When I had an Spectrum, a company called Labware created something like this. Its name was EDOS. Given that in 1988 computers used to work with cassettes (Spectrum, Amstrad, Commodore 64 & 128...), it recorded software to cassettes.

    It was a computer with a tape recorder and was to be installed in software stores. When you wanted a program, the EDOS connected (through a modem) to Labware, downloaded it and recorded to the tape. Software didn't stay in the EDOS longer than the time it needed to record.

    Here is a photo.

    Where is the revolution, then?