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RFID Coming To A Cell Phone Near You
Roland Piquepaille writes "In "RFID Goes Mobile", Red Herring reports that Nokia has quietly launched last month the first RFID-enabled cell phone. The Mobile RFID Kit will be available later this year and only for the 5140 model. This accessory allows the user to easily launch services and conveniently access phone functions simply by touching the phone to an RFID tag. The phone accesses the RFID tag data when an RFID reader emits a short-range radio signal that powers a microchip on the tag, allowing the ID information and other stored data to be read. Nokia doesn't intend to sell this kit to ordinary consumers like you and me. Instead, the RFID kit is designed to extend the mobility of workforce already on the move, such as security guards or maintenance people. This overview contains other details and references about the kit."
This would actually be handy for consumers like the bar-code scanner thingy... When you're in the store, just scan the barcode (or RFID chip) and get price comparisons from other stores. Or reviews and user opinions, etc.
Life is the leading cause of death in America.
I think the Powers are very interested in knowing what we do privately.
Why are they so intent on learning that i detoured to meet my poor girlfriend on the way home so that she could have "support" for her bad back?
Why are they so intent on exposing my poor private life.. as iam living with only one wife and two girlfriends.
WHY, WHY, WHY?
Maybe they are in cahoots with the Roman Catholic Church so that they can report to it about my flouting Commandments. So that they can crucify me...? or maybe Dubya Prez wants the info to blackmail me to vote for him...?
WHY?
Finally, an RFID tool that is on our side. If we can't stop the spread of them, at least now we should be able to see what their purpose is. In theory, you could look up any tag you come across, and find out, via some databse some where, why it is installed, and what it wants to learn about you.
For a minute, I thought maybe it was an article about RFID tags in phones, which is just as inevitable.
-Patrick
"They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
Probably have to buy the batteries ourselves too.
Uh, I'm not so sure if it's such a great idea. Where would you stick those batteries ?
Ok, some people may like it.
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This is novel in that it contains a portable "user-level" RFID scanner. (The phone bit is simply an already existant battery box.) So, now the questions are: what can end users do with it, and can we hack it?
One thing to keep in mind is that with the small antenna inherent to a cell phone footprint, this will pretty much be an "almost-contact" scanner with a range of centimeters, not meters.
John
how come nokia's web site for this phone mentions absolutely nothing about RFID?
well, it started...I'm quite possitive that RFIDs on the phones, on the PDAs and every mobile device won't be much of a success, due to the fact that most of the people resent on having someone scanning their phones/devices and tracking them down. OTOH, as i have previously mentioned in an older post, i used to participate in a reasearch at my uni for a major mobile phone company for the implementation of fingerprint recognition on cell phones and other mobile devices (PDAs,notebooks,etc). Personally i preffer the fingerprint sollution rather than the RFID one because the phone's security is up to you and not as "hollow" as RFID can be by the use of reverse engineering. It's simple, if your phone is stolen the perp needs to have your thumb or else the phone is just another piece of garbage. You cannot reverse engineer a fingerprint simply because you cannot have a clue on how the actual fingerpint is shaped, while the scanning software is something very ubiquitous and tough to be "hacked" by someone who hasn't got a clue of the scanning algorithms. Now with RFID, whack it off the phone/device and you have an ordinary device to play with .
Roses are red, violets are blue, most poems rhyme, but this one doesn't...
For the people worried about the privacy problems with RFID tagging everything: Give it to Microsoft. No, really! As soon as they start doing RFID for Windows, someone will have the bright idea of allowing RFID readers to automatically execute any arbitrary code that it finds on an RFID tag. Then we all just have to start wearing viral RFID tags.
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
My dog, Sparky, just read your comment and is requesting his microchip be taken out. He says he doesn't want to be scanned like canned corn in the supermarket. Now you've done it, AltGrendel. I shall send you the vet bill :P
Harpo Tunnel Syndrome--my wrist feels funny.
Features like this have lots of potential to cut down on paperwork by enhancing automation of routine tasks. For example, you might now need to fill out forms to signal that you have done a particular task. Instead, with this RFID reader in the phone, touch some tag and the information in the tag will be automatically sent to some remote database over wireless.
This could lead to opening up new ways to improve a company's operational processes, cutting out steps where digital data is ofen has to be retyped into a different system.
Moreover, vendors are now positioning smartphones more and more as "enterprise" productivity solution. Microsoft has also recently come out with a Location Based Services connector for Excahneg server that enables companies to monitor the location of thei service staff and route them efficiently by sending emails or test messages.
Worrying about privacy on a device that already gives away your location and openly bounces your conversations over the radio spectrum.
I came across a similar proposal a few years ago.
Rather than using RFID, the said idea was to inversely uses RF smartcard chips. For example, maintanence staff are required to carry a mobile smartcard reader with a built in database, and the smartcard chips are installed at specific locations on where they are supposed to do their maintanence duties. Whenever they are at their supposed locations, they'd need to use the reader on the chips before going on to their next location.
This adds some security and ensures the maintanence crew to actually go on site.
However no one in the company took the idea to execution; perhaps it was'nt sexy enough..?
I wonder how's this RFID thingie gonna be accepted in the real world.
this is targeted at businesses that might use RFID...it's part of Nokia's "new" enterprise strategy
The RFID tag reading capability provided by the phone will not read the RFID tags that WalMart is requiring for it's top suppliers next year.
The Walmart tags are EPC class 1v2 compliant tags that operate in the 915mhz range. The Nokia phone reads ISO-14443A tags that operate in the 13.56mhz range. The two technologies are very very different.
The EPC tags are relatively inexpensive (and getting cheaper all the time). They have about 128 bits of internal nvram and can be read from about 1-3 meters.
The ISO-14443A tags are expensive. They've got large amounts (multiple KB) of internal NVRAM, some have embedded operating systems and file systems for the NVRAM. You won't see companies using 14443 tags to tag merchandise anytime soon.
Another problem with the 14443 tags is that it is based on a fuzzy ISO standard. The cross vendor compatibility between compliant 14443 tags and compliant 14443 readers is not good at all. For instance, a Philips 14443 reader may not be able to correctly read a STMicro 14443 chip, even though they both are 14443 compliant. Basically, ISO makes vague standards so that many companies can claim compliance, but none have to compete with in an open marketplace.
I think the Nokia phone will be useful for closed loop RFID applications (one where the tag is not required to interoperate across multiple companies).
The company that does security for us (and probably for Nokia - I work about two km from their headquarters) uses little barcode readers. As the guard does her rounds, she swipes a little bar-code in each room. Presumably the security company logs that info and thereby knows exactly when each room in the building was checked.
I bet somebody at Nokia saw their security guards doing the same thing and got a bright idea...
It is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail. - Abraham Maslow
Run, panic, cower in fear. Conspiracy theorists abound. Its just a RFID reader, people. If anything, you spy on the people who are trying to being spying on you.
Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.
Did anyone else get visions of thumbless people with empty cellphone holsters?
SteveM
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RFID Battler - based on the old Barcode Battler, this new version will allow you to battle opponents usinng the latest technological advances.
I really should have patented that idea before broadcasting it...
This is not a
Or ironic at least.
'Don't worry' said the trees when they saw the axe coming, 'The handle is one of us.'
That RFID gets the kind of traction that bluetooth has. It certainly has a similar pre-rollout hype.
Still can't get a f*%#ing bluetooth phone from verizon.
-Peter
When you walk near my RFID tag that I leave at the mall, does it cause your phone to automatically dial my 1-900 number at $20/min?
I Am My Own Worst Enemy
I think Sparky might want something put back in when his microchip is being taken out.
Didn't you hear it on NPR? The value of RFID is its remote reading ability, not some punch-card technology. Picture this scenario: Instead of walking into a warehouse, swiping a smartcard (or its reader), and then rack by rack counting your inventory, you can simply wave a RFID reader over the vincinity of your inventory and instantly get an accurate count of what you have and how many you have.
Your post shows that you didn't read the article. They are not putting RFIDs on the phones. The phones are able to act as portable RFID scanners. Also, apparently none of the people who modded you up bothered to read the article either, but then I guess this is /. after all.
$Next thing you know we'll all have ear tags and $radio collars
Youre saying the second like it's a bad thing =)
Boss: Wear this phone so I can hassle you whenever I want.
Me: Nope
but now
Boss: Wear this access control badge so you can get into the server room.
Me: OK
Boss: Oh ya BTW it is also a phone so I can hassle you whenever I want...
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The smartcard technology where the idea was proposed
was also radio frequency based. In fact technically there is no diffrence compared to RFID..
1)The smartcard-reader constantly emits a RF.
2)When a smartcard chip is within the vicinity of the reader(and thus the radio waves), its coils generates electricity from the reader, powering the chip enough to run its software.
3)The sofware does whatever it need, sending or reading data.
The was absolutely no need for physical contact whatsoever between the smartcard and the reader
and data can move bothways.
That is why I think that the whole RFID idea itself is nothing new really...Perhaps getting this technology to be actually accepted requires more bussiness momentum rather than technological gizmology..
Of course, once the planet is littered with RFID tags in everything (after all, isn't 94.6% of everything in the world purchased at a Wal-Mart now?), we geeks will need a way to find out what data each contains.
The big corp monopolies won't be giving up their data, so it'll be up to us to collect, organize, and disseminate the data in these tags. Bu then, you have to wonder if even reading those tags won't be some kind of violation of the DMCA or other IP protection laws. Damn laws.
What is the ID SNIPERTM rifle?
It is used to implant a GPS-microchip in the body of a human being, using a high powered sniper rifle as the long distance injector. The microchip will enter the body and stay there, causing no internal damage, and only a very small amount of physical pain to the target. It will feel like a mosquito-bite lasting a fraction of a second. At the same time a digital camcorder with a zoom-lense fitted within the scope will take a high-resolution picture of the target. This picture will be stored on a memory card for later image-analysis.
Now this is scary.
"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
I think that if we are to be subjected to all these rfid tags, we should be able to check ourselves for them before we leave the house, or our newly purchased items right after we leave the store. We should be able to find and destroy these tags on our person at will.
Devices like this one could be like that metal detector wand they have at security checkpoints. They could help mitigate the privacy risks inherent in the technology by allowing us to detect when we've been bugged by RFID.
I'm sure we can all count on the engineering and implementation of this tech to be robust and secure.
I mean, at least as secure as Bluetooth.
Sorry for the sarcasm, but I'm not convinced that this isn't just featching creeperism that will eventaully result in data leakage or worse.
Considering the market this is aimed at, I'm hoping the spec is doing more than just paying lip service to security. Hackers and hobbyists will have access to USB or PCI RFID (or whatever) units eventually. Better plan for it now.
"RFIDSnarfing" anyone?
-- clvrmnky
There is no need for RFID in people. We simply need to take a DNA sample from every baby boy at birth. {baby Young Women need not be DNA sampled because women do not commit crimes, and should not be punished for them anyway if they do} This would allow the creation of a vast worldwide DNA database. DNA samples would also be taken when annual and random drug tests were performed, so as in order to verify that the person supplying the sample is indeed the person whose DNA is recorded. {Women should of course be excluded from drug testing. In 93% of cases where drugs were found in a woman's body the drugs were sold to her by a man, probably because he intended to rape her. In the other 7% of cases the woman was either directly coerced by a man into taking them, or was reduced to drug-taking by the oppressive actions of a man or men. It is therefore evident that there would be no drug use at all in the ideal women-only society.}
Whenever a potential crime is discovered, all DNA found at the scene can be matched to individuals. These people can then be arrested and detained pending a more thorough examination to determine whether or not a crime actually was committed and, if a crime is found to have been committed, the suspect is already in police custody and ready for punishment. Those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear. The end result of full-scale monitoring of all men will be a society in which women can sleep safer in our beds, and that surely has to be a goal worth working towards!
That's all we need! Cell phones sending out radio signals.. what will they think of next?
All without additional hardware. The main advantage of RFID in this case is simply resistance to cloning of the tags. That's why this isn't being marketed as a mass-market feature.
Also, although this is the first READER application, DoCoMo did a pretty widespread trial last year with tags embedded in cell phones for use as train fare debits: Article.
This is more of a consumer application since the infrastructure and user need is already there.
Well, I did the initial design work for a certain pump company that sells RFID to gasoline companies. We used the an RFID unit sold by a certain Texas electronics company. All of the RFID tags were supposed to be unique. We found out later their mouths were moving.
FIRST, we got sample tags that were supposed to be all unique, but of which five had the same exact number.
THEN, we discover that only a RANGE were unique, that in fact the rest of the values were being used by cattle and pork industry (removed at slaughter is what they say). Which brought up the specter of Farmer Jones getting free gas when he drove his prize pig into town.
FINALLY, the last straw was when we discovered there was no CRC. Period. They just sent it and hoped for the best. The Texas electronics firm tried to BS their way with bogus bit recovery schemes (which wouldn't work because the recievers would inject or drop bits without notice).
So what does this have to do with Nokia? Dunno.
IANAL, but I've seen actors play them on TV
I have been researching RFIDs for about 6 months and published all my results on my RFID Resource Site - www.rfidexchange.com. That may be a good resource for anyone who wants to find out what these things can really do. The reality is that there is a great deal of overselling of capability in terms of the accuracy of the readers in capturing all the tags, the range over which the tags can be read (stated to be 10-15 feet, more likely to be 5-10 feet with large 2 ft x 2 ft antennas, and perhaps 6-12 inches with a hand held device such as the one in the original article). There are also some massive data management issues in handling all the data that tagging individual items will generate - there is an interesting debate on that here - http://www.rfidexchange.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ ID=56 .
At the end of the day, the tags will be used to track pallets and cases between the manufacturer and the store, but I think it will be many years before it gets down to the item level in any real way.
Steve
When you can uniquely identify your cell phone via an RFID tag inside of it, you can use it to unlock your car doors, house, etc.
See the RFID in Your Thumb idea on Whynot.net
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