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Amazon's Search Engine Goes Live

fjordboy writes "John Battelle has posted a discussion and review of Amazon's new search engine: a9.com. From the article:"What makes this particularly noteworthy is that A9 is built quite literally on top of Google. In short, Amazon has taken the best of Google, and made it, to my mind, a lot better. Sound familiar? Yup, it's what Google did to Yahoo, Yahoo to Netscape...you get the picture." "

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  1. Ads by panxerox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmm Google - a search engine that displays ads, Amazon - an ad that displays searches, oh yeah that's gonna rock.

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    1. Re:Ads by plumpy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Google built on top of Yahoo? What? They both use two different ways to search the internet.

      You're being too interpretive with it. The poster clearly said it was quite literally on top. This obviously means that the Amazon servers are directly above the Google servers, which are directly above the Yahoo servers, which are directly above the Netscape servers.

      Oh, unless it's yet another misuse of the word "literally" to mean "metaphorically". I guess we'll never know.

  2. Tinfoil Hat Not Required by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the 7 Reasons to Use A9.com:

    Search History: All your searches at A9.com are stored on our servers and shown to you at any time from any computer you use. Clicking on a link performs the search again. You can hide the window at any time and a password will be required to open it again. You can edit your history, for example, to hide an entry.

    Click History: If any of the web search results include a site that you have seen before, it's marked on the result. We even tell you the last time you visited that site.


    You don't have to be among the tin-foil hat crowd to have a low regard for this "feature". There are just some searches that you *don't* want to remember.

    It's not a stretch to imagine a situation like this:

    Boss: "Google me some info on our competitors."

    Lackey: "Check out this new A9.com search!"

    Boss: "What's that link there? I didn't know you were interested in goats... [Click] Damn! You're fired!"

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    1. Re:Tinfoil Hat Not Required by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
      Boss: "What's that link there? I didn't know you were interested in goats... [Click] Damn! You're fired!"

      As if you couldn't find history in Mozilla...

      Could be worse, could be the boss turns to you and winks.

      what's their plan... track most popular searches, keep a cookie full of it, suggest these fine things the next time you go to Amazon.com... could even help them anticipate what to carry [We need to carry ... goats?] as if their marketing data isn't already legion...

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    2. Re:Tinfoil Hat Not Required by MrBlue+VT · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Yeah, the fact that they don't provide direct links to the pages also throws my paranoia into overdrive. This is the link that you get when you search for Slashdot:
      http://a9.com/-/search/a9-redirect.jsp?url=http:// slashdot.org/&title=%26lt%3Bb%26gt%3BSlashdot%26lt %3B%2Fb%26gt%3B%3A+News+for+nerds%2C+stuff+that+ma tters&token=0A3316C2D3DF4FF99CB34DD1FCCFD04B&t=108 19845643&qt=ws
      Clicky.

      So basically they can track whatever pages you go to.
    3. Re:Tinfoil Hat Not Required by pyrros · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm also concerned with this, although google seems to do the same thing from time to time (actually quite rarely)

      But they do seem to have something for the tinfoil hat crowd: generic.a9.com. They claim that they dont keep any info from searches done through there.

      If you would prefer not to be recognized on our site, we recommend that you use our alternate service located at generic.A9.com. On generic.a9.com, we will not recognize your A9.com or Amazon.com cookie. Information we gather on generic.a9.com will not be used in our data analysis (other than to detect abuse) and will not be used to personalize the services we offer you. [link]

    4. Re:Tinfoil Hat Not Required by Grant_Watson · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you've got nothing to hide...

      Why do I need to have something to hide in order to want privacy? Can't I simply desire to prevent others from gathering unnecessary information on me?

  3. People who searched for "warez" also read... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This really doesn't seem to be much of a breakthrough aside from the fact that they are running your serarch past Google, Amazon.com and Alexa at once and presenting a unified interface.

    This is like an infomerical from Amazon trying to pretend to be programming. I'll take my Google straight, and go to Amazon.com when I want to go shopping, thank you very much.

    1. Re:People who searched for "warez" also read... by radixvir · · Score: 5, Interesting

      interesting actually searching for warez returns no results....they must be censoring the results when its in their best interest (they sell software).

    2. Re:People who searched for "warez" also read... by Omestes · · Score: 5, Funny

      Same thing with "crackz" and "serialz"...
      But oddly it works for "petz" and "catz"...
      Pirating animals must be okay for them.

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    3. Re:People who searched for "warez" also read... by bobbis.u · · Score: 5, Informative
      It doesn't display any results, but clearly it does find them. Look at the bottom and you can still jump to all the blank pages that would contain results (warez "returns" 11 pages).

      Nice bug... erm, I mean "feature".

  4. Oh that's real nice... by bigHairyDog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's a search history viewable to the user. So just when various senators, the EFF and half of /. were getting uppety about Gmail's ability to connect a name with a search history, Amazon do the exactly the same.

    In fact, they go one step further - with Google's email you can always lie about your detals, but with Amazon's history feature you can't - it's tied to your Amazon account, credit card and all.

    Of course, I Have Nothing To Hide, but I still think that comapnies shouldn't put themselves in a position where they have a load of juicy data that the police only need a warrant to get at.

    It would have been smart for Amazon to keep this feature offline for a few weeks to get a better idea of how well google deals with the criticism.

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  5. CLICK BELOW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everyone should run this search just to break in their search engine.

  6. Amazon has taken the best of Google... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    and patented it. Litigation begins tomorrow.

  7. Reputation by SeanTobin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used to use altavista as my search engine way back when. Then, they decided that thier users were less important than thier customers. From there after about 8-9 months of use and being set as my homepage - I dumped altavista for google.

    Google has proven over and over again that thier primary concern is for thier users. They have found ways to make money via ads that in no way interupt the user. New features are constantly being developed that will benefit users.

    [side note: I am planning on signing up for gmail and using it as my primary webmail app. I do not consider it an invasion of privacy if I see an add for serial cables when someone sends me an email with a set of rs232 pinouts. I actually find it to be a unique situation where both google's users and customers can benefit]

    Now, look at amazon. This is a company that has decieved users numerous times. Anyone remember the price mismatches between repeat customers and new customers? How honest is my search going to be if I look for '+"golf club" order online'? Something tells me I'll end up at a amazon.com page.

    I understand that a similar situation could occour with froggle. The fact is it has not happened in either of them yet. However based on reputation, I would bet it would happen with google last.

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  8. Porn by PhatKat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's proof of how bad this search engine is. I searched for 'porn' and didn't find any! I'm on the 5th page of search results and still nothing. what kind of search engine can't find porn on the internet?

  9. In case of slashdotting... by PollGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    here's Google's (rather curious) cache

    Show me an A9 cache of Google's cache and we'll talk...

  10. Also note... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Informative

    They redirect and try to trap you from backing out. How refreshing. One of the web page practices I most despise.

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  11. On Linux, Again by AnuradhaRatnaweera · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Similar to Google A9 is running on Linux. But isn't it the first time a [major?] search engine [to be?] is running Apache?

  12. Re:1 reason not to use a9.com by winkydink · · Score: 5, Funny
    I searched for Blowjob and got 0 results WTF?

    And that, ladies and gentlemen is the executive summary for The Life Of A Slashdotter.

    :)

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