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Pay Attention To .Au/.Us IP Trade Law

Rusty Russell writes "The recent US-Australia "Free" Trade Agreement Chapter 17 (IP) locks Australia into our existing DMCA-style laws and extends them further: banning "access control" circumvention, extending copyright, guaranteeing penalties greater than actual damages for deliberate copyright infringement, committing us to recognising patents "whether a product or process, in all fields of technology", etc. Linux Australia has produced a draft position paper (rough HTML here), has a how to help page, and started a petition. Please help! " Rusty's a great guy - he's got some good links on his own page, but please take the time to do what you can - if you are a Australian, take the time to *physically* write your MP. Floods of post are what will create action.

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  1. Take our laws... we don't want 'em. by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wait a second, the ??AA organziations are letting Austrailia copy our copyright laws? Make them write their own... :)

  2. It's technology, stupid by haxeh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When are people going to realize you can't legislate away a technical problem? (assuming you think IP infringement is a problem, i guess)

    1. Re:It's technology, stupid by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When are people going to realize you can't legislate away a technical problem? (assuming you think IP infringement is a problem, i guess)

      It's security-by-legislation. They know that unbreakable encryption doesn't exist, it's only a matter of time before it gets blown. However, at least this will slow the process of breaking it by trying to scare away people who don't want to go to jail...

      Just about as effective as security-by-obscurity.

    2. Re:It's technology, stupid by bersl2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      actually, it's trying to legislate away a social "problem."

      legislating away a technical problem is like Congress passing a law which would prohibit a motor vehicle from travelling the speed of light. which makes no sense.

      a technical problem is when you run into a dead end within a given system, and you must change the system to achieve the desired results.

  3. Copyright has gotten out of control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The original intent of copyright (in the US anyway, not sure about Australia) was for it to be a means to encourage creativity for the public's sake, not simply to make publishers rich. It seems the contemporary goals of the "intellectual property" regime do a complete 180 in relation to what these laws were originally intended to encourage.

    1. Re:Copyright has gotten out of control by achurch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually it was to encourage creativity by allowing the creators (working with/through the publishers) to become rich.

      That's exactly what the parent was saying--"not simply to make publishers rich". I don't think anyone will argue that the reason for the monopoly was to generate income for the author/publisher (well, arguments can be made about which one should get the income, but that's a different issue). The point is that the income was not intended as the final goal of copyright, but merely as a means to an end, that end being "to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts". I think it's pretty clear that that goal has for all intents and purposes disappeared from modern copyright law.

    2. Re:Copyright has gotten out of control by afidel · · Score: 5, Informative

      Bullshit, read the constitution again, it clearly states

      " To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;"

      It says nothing about profits, it says that in exchange for promoting these things which we feel are valuable to society we will allow you to have controll of your works for a limited time.

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    3. Re:Copyright has gotten out of control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The key part is that copyrights are for a limited time. If you have 14 years to profit off a work, then you have 14 years to come up with your next work. If the copyright was unlimited you could come up with one work then profit off it for the rest of your life. That's not exactly encouraging creativity, is it?

      Neccessity is the mother of invention. Unlimited copyrights remove neccessity.

  4. Re:Alternative by zaphod8829 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Strictly a news site? You new here?

    Seriously, though, I think that a lot of Slashdot readers hold politics close to their hearts, and therefore would like to hear about this.

    Also, since I love picking nits, the post simply says you should write your MP. It does not specify what you should say. Feel free to write in support of whichever side tickles your fancy.

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  5. And she said, by Himring · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do you code from a land down under? Where the DMCA grow's and makes plunder?

    /duck
    /dodge
    /hide

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    1. Re:And she said, by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Funny

      /duck /dodge /hide

      You better run. You better take cover.

  6. Write to your MP here by IronBlade · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's the listing of Australian Members of Parliament:
    http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/mplist.htm

    Write a snailmail letter (don't email) to your local member and protest this junk!

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  7. quite unfortunate by eclectro · · Score: 5, Insightful


    This really shows the "snowball" effect that copyright has become.

    Europe expanded the length of copyrights because of suspension during WWII(however they weren't suspended in the US!). Then US copyright law was "expanded" to "bring it in line" with european law. Now Australia is doing the same thing to "bring it in line" with US law.

    The next logical step is for some other country to "expand" their copyright law to "be in line" with Australian law. Then the US will undoubtedly follow suit.

    Citizens do not see how this is hurting them, but it does. Everything from more expensive videos to a cultural "lockdown" preventing new creative works based on the old ones.

    Expect Disney to start lobbying for another copyright extension in a couple of years to protect Mickey. And we know how US lawmakers love to listen to the corporation.

    The _only_ way this is going to change if it becomes _very_ politically expensive to expand copyright law.

    With the war in Iraq, terrorism, and many people being left behind in this so-called recovery, health care worries, budget deficits, copyright law is at the bottom of people's list.

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