Right, no LANs with private IP addresses have ever been vulnerable to anything, because they have private IP addresses. That makes sense.
Good thing I'm behind my crappy linksys router with a 192.168.0.0/16 address, now no one can haxor me!
Yes, I know, but if you read the site, they make it seem like the real test is embedded in that pdf, and they're going to release the password to unlock all of it, not just the practice or instruction sections...
Start Test When the test begins, click HERE to get the test password. For the practice test, you may do this immediately.
Note: please ensure in advance that your browser can refresh this page properly. We believe that many AOL browsers, and perhaps others, do not work instantaneously. Otherwise, you may not notice when the password page is updated.
Uhh, so they put up a pdf... and it's password protected... and you can only see the preview... until they give you the password (released on their site at test time)... which lets you take the whole test?
Am I missing or does this seem ridiculously insecure?
I'd love to download it and play with it... but, uhh, you know, slashdot effect and all...
That's why we need to go out and do this. A big problem linux has is that all the geeks who support is usually expend their efforts preaching to the choir.
First, "we" don't need to go out and do anything. The parent makes the (correct) observation that the GNU/Linux movement is lacking the size of the warchest that Microsoft has to conduct a marketing and distribution blitz. You, however, are wrong. It is not the responsibility of the linux community to go out and try to convert people who don't want to be converted. Plenty of user based support groups exist, but personally expending time and money to go streamline companies' systems is obviously not a correct approach. IBM, Redhat, and friends are on the business front. No one should be asking linux developers/maintainers/users/supporters to be giving up their time to help companies.
Look at this, every day on slasdhot we sit around telling each other that linux is awesome. Anyone who reads slashdot already knows it and doesn't need to hear it again.
I've been reading slashdot for years and it is not a forum designed for promoting linux. Slashdot is (mainly) for news, and replying to the Magical Myth-Busting Tour with why it's wrong is fairly on-topic. Of course/. is slanted, look at the user base, but it's hardly a place where we all "sit around telling eachother that linux is awesome" like it's our job.
Instead of posting on a linux forum about how great linux is go out and talk to people. Omg! going out of the house! Ok, well maybe you geeks with no social skills should stay in your mother's basements and wait for us to tall you. But the rest of you linux users should get out there and spread the word in a real way.
You're an idiot. I'm yet to meet a linux geek, or any other type of geek (except possibly excluding the DnD types, but even they have cons), who actually stays in their mother's basement. I have no idea how that got started, but as far as I can tell it doesn't happen. Most linux users are technically inclined 'normal people'. But even the most hardcore linux developer geeky types are frequently seen 'out of the house', have social skills, and don't live with their parents. And the idea of 'spread the word in a real way' doesn't make sense. Real way like what? Should linux supports start a religion? Buy ad space? Go door to door? What exactly do you suggest? And why? It's not like we're some kind of crazy basement-dwelling cult hellbent on converting the world to an opensource operating system so that penguins may reign supreme. Grow up.
Go find a small business that pays too much for MS licenses and make a "sales call" in your spare time. Heck, just converting random people to firefox is a step in the right direction.
Again, people who support linux aren't meant to be out giving free support to businesses. You've got some seriously messed up views of open source if you think that's how it's supposed to work.
Whatever your coding isn't that urgent that you can't wait to do it later:P
If people were out peddling linux instead of coding it, we wouldn't have an operating system, much less a community.
You seem to be under the impression that linux exists to serve you, that some ereet group of geeks with no social skills code it and want it to reign supreme, and it's their job (whoever they may be) to force you to use it by proving its worth for free. Get a clue.
But not nearly as unbelievable as it sounds. Like any 'good' software company, they believe their value lies in their IP, which it does. SCO seems to feel that people have infringed on their IP significantly enough for them to make a business out of taking money back from those whole 'stole' from them.
This in itself isn't really that horrible, because they're just updating their business model to profit off of all the supposed stealing thats been going on. That is, if they could somehow get licensing fees from everyone running linux, that'd be a viable business.
Of course, because it's SCO, no one really stole anything (as far as we can tell). And that's what makes them evil: making false accusations about infringement to drive stock price up, not pursuing what is rightfully theirs under the law.
The reaction shouldn't be "omg! software company thinks their IP is valuable!" it should be "omg! software company is making outrageous claims about what they own!"
Yes, there are p2p applications that do prevent tracing. There's MUTE, which seems to have promise, although it's not particularly well documented. There's also GNUnet , which seems to be really intelligently designed, but I have no idea how well it works in practice, I don't think it's ready for mainstream use yet. And of course, freenet with FROST , but it's as slow and unreliable as the rest of freenet.
Ultimately, I think we can all agree that anonymous internet, especially filesharing, is coming and is going to render the RIAA's efforts useless.
As far as stream ripping, however, I think the idea was just that you could leech mp3s all day long and make a collection of whatever the stream is playing, not as an anonymous way of getting specific mp3s you want.
People need to realize that most kids don't have a desire to learn these things, and most teachers don't have a desire to teach. Kids go because it's publicly funded babysitting, teachers go to get paid. At some point grades become relevant, and kids learn to do whatever it is they have to do to pass the classes. When it becomes necessary to accomplish some goal, the material will be learned.
If we did, for some reason, decide to make an point of 'teaching' our kids, by somehow giving them a real reason to learn and the teachers a real reason to teach, it'd be amazing the knowledge that could be imparted. I don't see any reason why a 10 year old cant do calculus, other than they're "not prepared yet."
Better "curriculum materials" aren't the answer. I don't know what the answer is, but it should somehow involve rewarding kids for learning and rewarding teachers for teaching, which just doesn't happen in our current system.
Maybe after we tackle the spam problem, we can lock up those damn haxorz for life and censor all that indecent content out there. And, actually, let's do it for the whole world, not just the US.
I don't know what kind of email accounts you all have, but I rarely get spam, and when I do, the filters pick it up. Sure it's annoying, but it's really not that big of a deal. We need better filtering, if anything, not 'better' legislation. I can't understand how the same people who want to keep the internet free of government influence are supporting laws to crucify spammers. Maybe after we tackle the spam problem, we can lock up those damn haxorz for life and censor all that indecent content out there. And, actually, let's do it for the whole world, not just the US.
I find it to be extremely disturbing that people (especially slashdotters, apparently) are willing to give tracking information with such little reservation. It's gotten to the point where people say "well, i'd like amazon to know what i search, so they can give me better content."
Perhaps I'm just one in the paranoid crowd, but it seems to me that it's a bad idea to have everything "personalized". I don't want to have advertisements directed at my predicted statistical response to them. I find it particularly intrusive to try and predict what I'm most likely to buy, then flood me with advertisements crafted for my demographic. I'd like to keep the companies *outside* of my head.
And of course, everyone says "well, it's just a service, you don't have to use it", but if these kind of things are seen as acceptable, at some point it will become so universal that even if you don't want to be tracked and 'targetted', you won't have a choice. What happens if in a few years, to make any purchase online, I have to agree to having every site I vist tracked? Is it *really* that unrealistic? Would most people really object? I think the answer is beginning to change.
Right, no LANs with private IP addresses have ever been vulnerable to anything, because they have private IP addresses. That makes sense. Good thing I'm behind my crappy linksys router with a 192.168.0.0/16 address, now no one can haxor me!
Yes, I know, but if you read the site, they make it seem like the real test is embedded in that pdf, and they're going to release the password to unlock all of it, not just the practice or instruction sections...
Uhh, so they put up a pdf... and it's password protected... and you can only see the preview... until they give you the password (released on their site at test time)... which lets you take the whole test?
Am I missing or does this seem ridiculously insecure?
I'd love to download it and play with it... but, uhh, you know, slashdot effect and all...
That's why we need to go out and do this. A big problem linux has is that all the geeks who support is usually expend their efforts preaching to the choir.
First, "we" don't need to go out and do anything. The parent makes the (correct) observation that the GNU/Linux movement is lacking the size of the warchest that Microsoft has to conduct a marketing and distribution blitz. You, however, are wrong. It is not the responsibility of the linux community to go out and try to convert people who don't want to be converted. Plenty of user based support groups exist, but personally expending time and money to go streamline companies' systems is obviously not a correct approach. IBM, Redhat, and friends are on the business front. No one should be asking linux developers/maintainers/users/supporters to be giving up their time to help companies.
Look at this, every day on slasdhot we sit around telling each other that linux is awesome. Anyone who reads slashdot already knows it and doesn't need to hear it again.
I've been reading slashdot for years and it is not a forum designed for promoting linux. Slashdot is (mainly) for news, and replying to the Magical Myth-Busting Tour with why it's wrong is fairly on-topic. Of course /. is slanted, look at the user base, but it's hardly a place where we all "sit around telling eachother that linux is awesome" like it's our job.
Instead of posting on a linux forum about how great linux is go out and talk to people. Omg! going out of the house! Ok, well maybe you geeks with no social skills should stay in your mother's basements and wait for us to tall you. But the rest of you linux users should get out there and spread the word in a real way.
You're an idiot. I'm yet to meet a linux geek, or any other type of geek (except possibly excluding the DnD types, but even they have cons), who actually stays in their mother's basement. I have no idea how that got started, but as far as I can tell it doesn't happen. Most linux users are technically inclined 'normal people'. But even the most hardcore linux developer geeky types are frequently seen 'out of the house', have social skills, and don't live with their parents. And the idea of 'spread the word in a real way' doesn't make sense. Real way like what? Should linux supports start a religion? Buy ad space? Go door to door? What exactly do you suggest? And why? It's not like we're some kind of crazy basement-dwelling cult hellbent on converting the world to an opensource operating system so that penguins may reign supreme. Grow up.
Go find a small business that pays too much for MS licenses and make a "sales call" in your spare time. Heck, just converting random people to firefox is a step in the right direction.
Again, people who support linux aren't meant to be out giving free support to businesses. You've got some seriously messed up views of open source if you think that's how it's supposed to work.
Whatever your coding isn't that urgent that you can't wait to do it later :P
If people were out peddling linux instead of coding it, we wouldn't have an operating system, much less a community.
You seem to be under the impression that linux exists to serve you, that some ereet group of geeks with no social skills code it and want it to reign supreme, and it's their job (whoever they may be) to force you to use it by proving its worth for free. Get a clue.
I took the bait
--hax
mmm, pie...
seriously though, it should be able to generate its own porn, complete with a good plot, with that much power
That's amazing!
Now we can... uhh... what are we supposed to do with that much power again?
But not nearly as unbelievable as it sounds. Like any 'good' software company, they believe their value lies in their IP, which it does. SCO seems to feel that people have infringed on their IP significantly enough for them to make a business out of taking money back from those whole 'stole' from them.
This in itself isn't really that horrible, because they're just updating their business model to profit off of all the supposed stealing thats been going on. That is, if they could somehow get licensing fees from everyone running linux, that'd be a viable business.
Of course, because it's SCO, no one really stole anything (as far as we can tell). And that's what makes them evil: making false accusations about infringement to drive stock price up, not pursuing what is rightfully theirs under the law.
The reaction shouldn't be "omg! software company thinks their IP is valuable!" it should be "omg! software company is making outrageous claims about what they own!"
Alright, I have to reply to this one.
Yes, there are p2p applications that do prevent tracing. There's MUTE, which seems to have promise, although it's not particularly well documented. There's also GNUnet , which seems to be really intelligently designed, but I have no idea how well it works in practice, I don't think it's ready for mainstream use yet. And of course, freenet with FROST , but it's as slow and unreliable as the rest of freenet.
Ultimately, I think we can all agree that anonymous internet, especially filesharing, is coming and is going to render the RIAA's efforts useless.
As far as stream ripping, however, I think the idea was just that you could leech mp3s all day long and make a collection of whatever the stream is playing, not as an anonymous way of getting specific mp3s you want.
People need to realize that most kids don't have a desire to learn these things, and most teachers don't have a desire to teach. Kids go because it's publicly funded babysitting, teachers go to get paid. At some point grades become relevant, and kids learn to do whatever it is they have to do to pass the classes. When it becomes necessary to accomplish some goal, the material will be learned.
If we did, for some reason, decide to make an point of 'teaching' our kids, by somehow giving them a real reason to learn and the teachers a real reason to teach, it'd be amazing the knowledge that could be imparted. I don't see any reason why a 10 year old cant do calculus, other than they're "not prepared yet."
Better "curriculum materials" aren't the answer. I don't know what the answer is, but it should somehow involve rewarding kids for learning and rewarding teachers for teaching, which just doesn't happen in our current system.
Maybe after we tackle the spam problem, we can lock up those damn haxorz for life and censor all that indecent content out there. And, actually, let's do it for the whole world, not just the US.
Sarcasm, man... it's called sarcasm...
I don't know what kind of email accounts you all have, but I rarely get spam, and when I do, the filters pick it up. Sure it's annoying, but it's really not that big of a deal. We need better filtering, if anything, not 'better' legislation. I can't understand how the same people who want to keep the internet free of government influence are supporting laws to crucify spammers. Maybe after we tackle the spam problem, we can lock up those damn haxorz for life and censor all that indecent content out there. And, actually, let's do it for the whole world, not just the US.
I find it to be extremely disturbing that people (especially slashdotters, apparently) are willing to give tracking information with such little reservation. It's gotten to the point where people say "well, i'd like amazon to know what i search, so they can give me better content."
Perhaps I'm just one in the paranoid crowd, but it seems to me that it's a bad idea to have everything "personalized". I don't want to have advertisements directed at my predicted statistical response to them. I find it particularly intrusive to try and predict what I'm most likely to buy, then flood me with advertisements crafted for my demographic. I'd like to keep the companies *outside* of my head.
And of course, everyone says "well, it's just a service, you don't have to use it", but if these kind of things are seen as acceptable, at some point it will become so universal that even if you don't want to be tracked and 'targetted', you won't have a choice. What happens if in a few years, to make any purchase online, I have to agree to having every site I vist tracked? Is it *really* that unrealistic? Would most people really object? I think the answer is beginning to change.
Now let's run the same test, but instead of attacking the algorithm, let's see how many hours it takes to social engineer the key :)
security-by-legislation
;)
that's clever... i'd steal that, but, you know, IP laws and all
When are people going to realize you can't legislate away a technical problem? (assuming you think IP infringement is a problem, i guess)
Most people who listen to music without lyrics probably have some idea what they're listening to.
What part about memorizing one line of the song and googling it is difficult?
We already have lots of patents for perpetual motion machines, apparently.
we just /.'d japan