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Insuring Linux, Thanks to SCO

jtheory writes "There's an interesting article on Salon.com (free daypass available, ads, etc.) about the counter-reaction to SCO's attacks on Linux, and how SCO may actually be one of the best things to happen to Linux lately, because their attacks have turned a lot of attention to the possible Achilles' heel in the code contribution process. Includes some good detail on OSRM, a company offering insurance against lawsuits like SCO's, who notably hired Bruce Perens and PJ of Groklaw fame, and is doing their own extremely thorough analysis of the code and any possibility of improperly included code. The founder of OSRM also wrote a story called Why the Linux Community Needs Open Source Insurance on LinuxWorld." We've mentioned risk insurance before.

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  1. So this is basically what? by LOL+WTF+OMG!!!!!!!!! · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A sort of "malpractice" insurance, where instead of a doctor's malpractice, it's that of the code-plagiarizer?

    Or is it for protecting the Linux distributer that was unaware of said plagiarism.

    (By the way, I'm not saying Linux contains plagiarized code ;) )

  2. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    There needs to be much more detailed work on the legal side of things before Open Source becomes the norm.

  3. Economic Reasoning At Its Best by zanderredux · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is an extreme example of economic reasoning at its best.... let's hope that the company selling the insurance is not related to SCO!!!

  4. Re:Do we really need this? by zanderredux · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Yes.

    It might be impossible to do proper due diligence with very large F/OSS projects and the honor system, being "implicit", is not enforceable or, at least, verifiable.

  5. OpenScam by MouseR · · Score: 4, Interesting

    OSRM, a company offering insurance against lawsuits like SCO

    Cool.

    Now, instead of paying juggernauts for their expensive software, you can pay expensive insurers to use free software!

    What would america be without lawyers?

  6. Why this is _BAD_ for Linux... by kuwan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This "Linux Insurance" by OSRM is really bad for Linux. As noble as the creators may think it is, the fact that it exists at all shows that SCO has been (somewhat) successful in their campaign to cast uncertainty on the legitimacy of Linux and its code base.

    For example, let's say that I want to sell my boss on buying a bunch of Linux servers instead of Windows or Solaris servers. I tell him all the great advantages of Linux - stability, performance, low cost, etc. Then some Windows schmuck interrupts and says that Linux has legal problems. I say "no it doesn't" and explain how the SCO fiaSCO is just a bunch of mumbo-jumbo. Then I go to explain that their is insurance that you can buy in case anyone (SCO or anyone else) tries to sue you.

    After this my boss gets scared and thinks that there is legitimate risk involved with going to Linux. Then he thinks, "Why go with Linux and spend extra $$$ on insurance when I can just go with Windows or something else."

    This whole insurance thing is just bad. It helps SCO to prove their point (that there is a problem with the Linux development process), makes Linux cost more than it should, and introduces the idea that risk is involved when using Linux.

  7. Re:I hope this doesn't take off by bruce_the_moose · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I beleive that insurance companies are some of the most exploitive organizations around, draining resources from society with very little positive return

    While I can't claim to love insurance companies--institutions that plays with lots of money and produces little in the way of tangible products tend to spawn greedy bastards--you can point to some returns to society that they have made. Here's and example: Do you look for little tags or stickers that say "UL" on electrical devices you buy? You should. UL is Underwriters Laboratory, a lab sponsored by the industry (Underwriters) is in place to guarantee things like christmas lights won't burn your house down if you leave them on overnight. It's enlightened self-interest, of course, since if your house burns down the Insurance companies have to pay.

    Oh, and having someone pick up the tab if your house burns down is probably a positive return to at least yourself, if not society.

    I think OSS insurance is a good thing for this very reason: it means some institution actually thinks it's insurable. The way you make money selling insurance is covering things that are likely to NOT burst into flames.

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  8. Re:Why insure Linux? by B'Trey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As I pointed out, once the code is identified as tainted, they can likely demand that you stop using it. Although I didn't specifically point it out, that should imply that it also means you can not distribute it. If they can show that you knowingly and wilfully used or distributed the code after knowing it to be tainted, they might be able to sue you. But they almost certainly can not sucessfully sue you for using/distributing the code before it was known to be tainted.

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    "The legitimate powers of government extend only to such acts as are injurious to others." Thomas Jefferson.

  9. Re:Why insure Linux? by jamonterrell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What's with the horrible examples today?

    This is not at all the same. In this case you're the ONLY one copying and distributing the book. Thus you are infriginging COPYrights. In the case of Linux a LOT of people are copying and thus infringing. Let's start a list:
    1.) The person who submitted the code.
    2.) The person who committed the code.
    3.) The person who uploaded the kernel.
    4.) Everyone who offers the kernel for download
    4a.) All websites/mirrors that offer the kernel.
    4b.) All products with the kernel incorporated into them (PVRs, mp3 players, toasters, who knows).
    4c.) All makes of linux distributions (RH, Novell, etc)
    4d.) All computer manufacturers that sell computers with linux (HP, IBM, etc).

    Alright, have I made my point? Not just the person committing the infringed code is at risk.

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