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Review Of Serenity Virtual Station

JigSaw writes "Here's some serious competition for VMWare and Virtual PC: OSNews reviews a new OS emulator, the Serenity Virtual Station, which can run as a host on FreeBSD, Linux and OS/2 and supports as guests a slew of OSes. It is based on the twoOStwo virtual operating engine (which additonally runs on top of Windows as well)."

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  1. Serious? by theM_xl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't mean to offend but I'm not going to consider it serious competition until it's managed a few months/years of actual use, as opposed to being merely a beta product that isn't even out for the public yet.

  2. Surprizing by TypoNAM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's pretty surprizing since doesn't VMware hold several patents on running virtual guest operating systems like Uniden holds a crap load of patents on how to listen on different frequencies? I know bad example, but I couldn't think of anything else at the moment. ;)

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  3. Denial of OS by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can't we strip down the "OS" to just this kind of layer that centralizes access to the unique local hardware and process space? Then the "hosted" OS'es can just be commonly installed apps and libraries. We can carve them up to reduce redundancy. Signed APIs for IPC ACLs would complete this picture. It would remove many of the limits to scaling a processor off a single machine, to any available network resources. And the open source OS'es would be more fit to reproduce in this environment.

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  4. Is this for real? by Animats · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's not clear what's going on here. If it's an x86 CPU emulator, this is quite possible, but it will be slow. If most code is executing natively, it's necessary to use the hacks VMware does. (IA-32 machines don't hypervise properly, but they're close. That's why VMware is possible, but a horrible hack. Compare VM for IBM mainframes, where the hardware was done right.) The review says that there are no benchmarks because this is a pre-release version.

    Actually, if you want to run virtual machines, the way to go might be the AMD 64-bit machines, which supposedly have the proper hardware support virtual IA-32 machines. Has anybody tried that yet?

  5. Why? by bonch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People stay on Windows because:

    - It's easy to use (before someone chimes in with their anecdotal "this happened to me once" situation, yes, for the majority of people Windows is very easy to use)
    - Easy to download and install drivers.
    - As a result, easy to go down to Wal-mart and buy a new printer and have it work in less than a minute.
    - Endless software, including lots of freeware. There's more software for Windows because Windows is easier to develop for, with no endless list of competing, inconsistent toolkits that exist simply to reinvent the wheel yet again and introduce another "choice"
    - Old software still works. I can run my Windows 3.1 programs in XP if I wanted to. Linux distros are still a bit of a moving target. I can't guarantee an RPM I got five years ago will still work, can I? Meanwhile, I can run a Windows app from 10 years ago with no problems.

    If you honestly think the reason that 95% of the marketshare is using Windows is simply because of Photoshop, you're deluded. OS X has Photoshop as well, but look at its share compared to Windows.

    Note that despite all this, Linux can catch up and defeat Windows. But it has to abandon XFree86, implement things like binary installation/uninstallation APIs, one sane toolkit that is a joy to program for (i.e., like .NET or Cocoa), and so forth. Personally, I'm looking forward to the 1.0 release of Y-Windows.

  6. Re:VMWare Price Drop by grotgrot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually I think it is the Microsoft competition, now retailing at $129. I believe the majority of VMWare workstation sales are on Windows.

    Microsoft will be coming out with Virtual Server soon.

    VMWare did do one smart thing. They donated free licenses to many open source projects (such as Samba). That ensured that those talented developers didn't contribute their time to the open source projects due to having something that works for them.